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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/entertainment/521373-star-wars-episode-viii-the-last-jedi
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
January 03 2016 09:53 GMT
#3241
On January 03 2016 14:40 Joedaddy wrote:
He'd take brood war and copy it completely with updated graphics and we'd all love him for it.


Indeed we would.
knuckle
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
January 03 2016 09:55 GMT
#3242
On January 03 2016 16:45 shin_toss wrote:
Am I on the right thread or should new?



Blow me.
knuckle
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden887 Posts
January 03 2016 10:13 GMT
#3243
On January 03 2016 18:53 HeatEXTEND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 14:40 Joedaddy wrote:
He'd take brood war and copy it completely with updated graphics and we'd all love him for it.


Indeed we would.



would be dream come true
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 11:30:41
January 03 2016 11:29 GMT
#3244
On January 03 2016 14:40 Joedaddy wrote:
Whatever JJ Abrhams Got paid to direct this movie, it was entirely to much. I could have done just as good with a bottle of white out, a crayon, and Lucas' original script. What a joke.

My 8 year old said "dad, that was pretty much the same as the first Star Wars except with a bigger Death Star."

With absolutely no coaching even an 8 year old could see the lack of originality.

Side note: I'd like blizzard to hire Abrhams to make the next Starcraft game. He'd take brood war and copy it completely with updated graphics and we'd all love him for it.


Right, because we all know the only thing a director does is set major story arcs.

It's amazing how bad some of these posters are.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 12:24:49
January 03 2016 12:20 GMT
#3245
Director didn't do the story. But, is he also credited as a screenwriter and producer.


Talking about the story and what Disney puts out as credits. Isn't it strange that Rian Johnson does the story for the next two, but has nothing to do with TFA? Don't you need one guy to oversee the story arch and consistency? I mean, you also have the other 3 movies and I doubt they will quit at 6 movies total if it is still profitable.

I see though that Lawrence Kasdan is credited in TFA. He helped GJ as a screenwriter for the OT.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
January 03 2016 12:25 GMT
#3246
On January 03 2016 03:55 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 03:49 riotjune wrote:
"AAAAAAAAAGH!"
*chops off both legs*
"uuaaaggggh"


So funny.

The biggest thing i hate about RotS is that i just lost all my respect to Darth Vader after that lol. How can I take him serious anymore after SW2 & 3. smh.

Know what's funnier? Samuel L. Jackson yelping like a little girl after Anakin chops off his hand.


(After that disjointed scene that keeps switching between a cgi Palpatine and an Ian McDiarmid who looked like he didn't know how to handle a sword)

"It's not the Jedi way! He must live!"
...
"I need him!"
...
"NOOOO!"

*uppercut chops off hand*

"Aaaaaaagh.....AAAAAgh." *dramatic trumpet ditty*
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
January 03 2016 15:09 GMT
#3247
On January 03 2016 21:20 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
Director didn't do the story. But, is he also credited as a screenwriter and producer.


Talking about the story and what Disney puts out as credits. Isn't it strange that Rian Johnson does the story for the next two, but has nothing to do with TFA? Don't you need one guy to oversee the story arch and consistency? I mean, you also have the other 3 movies and I doubt they will quit at 6 movies total if it is still profitable.

I see though that Lawrence Kasdan is credited in TFA. He helped GJ as a screenwriter for the OT.

Kathleen Kennedy oversees the new trilogy, so basically it's her filling the role of George Lucas.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
January 03 2016 15:46 GMT
#3248
On January 03 2016 20:29 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 14:40 Joedaddy wrote:
Whatever JJ Abrhams Got paid to direct this movie, it was entirely to much. I could have done just as good with a bottle of white out, a crayon, and Lucas' original script. What a joke.

My 8 year old said "dad, that was pretty much the same as the first Star Wars except with a bigger Death Star."

With absolutely no coaching even an 8 year old could see the lack of originality.

Side note: I'd like blizzard to hire Abrhams to make the next Starcraft game. He'd take brood war and copy it completely with updated graphics and we'd all love him for it.


Right, because we all know the only thing a director does is set major story arcs.

It's amazing how bad some of these posters are.


Who entitled you to say what a bad or a good post is? I would say to you other thing but I would be banned.
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 15:48:58
January 03 2016 15:47 GMT
#3249
On January 04 2016 00:46 palexhur wrote:

Show nested quote +
Right, because we all know the only thing a director does is set major story arcs.

It's amazing how bad some of these posters are.


Who entitled you to say what a bad or a good post is? I would say to you other thing but I would be banned.


Jibba never made a bad post, ever.

Jibba, back in your cage and On Topic again.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
January 03 2016 15:57 GMT
#3250
What do you guys think about all the fan theories linking the first 6 movies to the new trilogy?

Examples being:
-Rey is a Skywalker (very likely IMO).
-Supreme Leader Snoke is Darth Plagueis (quite possible IMO).
-Jar Jar Binks is Darth Plagueis (not very likely IMO).

Apart from these being true or not (one can only speculate) would a link to the past make the new trilogy better for you or do you hope it doesn't go further than some old characters making an appearance? Personally I would like the Darth Plagueis Snoke thing to be true but I think Disney doesn't want to fuck with the taint of the PT umfortunately..
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
January 03 2016 16:01 GMT
#3251
On January 04 2016 00:57 B.I.G. wrote:
What do you guys think about all the fan theories linking the first 6 movies to the new trilogy?

Examples being:
-Rey is a Skywalker (very likely IMO).
-Supreme Leader Snoke is Darth Plagueis (quite possible IMO).
-Jar Jar Binks is Darth Plagueis (not very likely IMO).

Apart from these being true or not (one can only speculate) would a link to the past make the new trilogy better for you or do you hope it doesn't go further than some old characters making an appearance? Personally I would like the Darth Plagueis Snoke thing to be true but I think Disney doesn't want to fuck with the taint of the PT umfortunately..


Yesterday I saw the prequels again, Jar Jar is the worst character ever lol, it is like taking Goofy from Donald Duck and put it in a movie with another look, he is so stupid that is annoying, not even funny, so not No.3 for me.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 16:11:14
January 03 2016 16:02 GMT
#3252
On January 04 2016 00:46 palexhur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 20:29 Jibba wrote:
On January 03 2016 14:40 Joedaddy wrote:
Whatever JJ Abrhams Got paid to direct this movie, it was entirely to much. I could have done just as good with a bottle of white out, a crayon, and Lucas' original script. What a joke.

My 8 year old said "dad, that was pretty much the same as the first Star Wars except with a bigger Death Star."

With absolutely no coaching even an 8 year old could see the lack of originality.

Side note: I'd like blizzard to hire Abrhams to make the next Starcraft game. He'd take brood war and copy it completely with updated graphics and we'd all love him for it.


Right, because we all know the only thing a director does is set major story arcs.

It's amazing how bad some of these posters are.


Who entitled you to say what a bad or a good post is? I would say to you other thing but I would be banned.

You don't see the difference between
I didn't like TFA because the story wasn't original


And

I could've done just as good a job directing TFA, with some whiteout and a sharpie. The director didn't do anything to deserve a paycheck.


Only the 2nd is filled with typos and disjointed crap about your kid.

The first is a reasonable criticism/post. The second quote is a shit post. It's obviously false, it lacks any understanding of how films/directors work and it adds nothing to the discussion. It's poorly constructed and poorly thought out.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
January 03 2016 16:28 GMT
#3253
On January 04 2016 01:02 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 00:46 palexhur wrote:
On January 03 2016 20:29 Jibba wrote:
On January 03 2016 14:40 Joedaddy wrote:
Whatever JJ Abrhams Got paid to direct this movie, it was entirely to much. I could have done just as good with a bottle of white out, a crayon, and Lucas' original script. What a joke.

My 8 year old said "dad, that was pretty much the same as the first Star Wars except with a bigger Death Star."

With absolutely no coaching even an 8 year old could see the lack of originality.

Side note: I'd like blizzard to hire Abrhams to make the next Starcraft game. He'd take brood war and copy it completely with updated graphics and we'd all love him for it.


Right, because we all know the only thing a director does is set major story arcs.

It's amazing how bad some of these posters are.


Who entitled you to say what a bad or a good post is? I would say to you other thing but I would be banned.

You don't see the difference between
Show nested quote +
I didn't like TFA because the story wasn't original


And

Show nested quote +
I could've done just as good a job directing TFA, with some whiteout and a sharpie. The director didn't do anything to deserve a paycheck.


Only the 2nd is filled with typos and disjointed crap about your kid.

The first is a reasonable criticism/post. The second quote is a shit post. It's obviously false, it lacks any understanding of how films/directors work and it adds nothing to the discussion. It's poorly constructed and poorly thought out.


You meant his kid?
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 16:35:43
January 03 2016 16:33 GMT
#3254
Rey being a Skywalker is 50/50. Would be lame if she was, but that hasn't stopped them before.

Rey being trained and mind-wiped, that I estimate 20/80 against. Makes sense, but not very likely because the things it fixes aren't seen as problems. More likely Rey is just a Mary Sue. That's just needed because we can't have fumbling panicked people today in Hollywood blockbusters. Everyone the audience has to care for is already overly perfect.They already want Finn to suddenly be a bad-ass. If he can do what he can, what can a force sensitive future Jedi do?


Snoke being Darth Plagueis. Would at least get rid of that stupid name. Opens a whole can of worms they probably want to keep closed. No need to make that link, at all. He probably is a force user, which isn't confirmed. We just need a evil space wizard mastermind. Must easier to just create a new character and keep links with old EU and prequels to the minimum.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 16:38:31
January 03 2016 16:34 GMT
#3255
Oh, the cringe of 9gag, where people use or pretend to be kids in hopes to somehow strengthen their opinion. "I'm only 10 years old but I think TFA lacked depth, and tried to cover it with action scenes. I was much more interested in the politics than some fancy X-Wing action. Am I the only one ????!!!!!!" or "I brought my 10 years old kid with me to watch TFA in the movies. I did not like it, but tried my best not to show it to him. After the movie, he grabbed me by the arm and said: dad, this movie was terrible. I want to go home and rewatch the OT instead, because it's just so much better."

*Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh* Just... don't.

On January 04 2016 01:33 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
Rey being trained and mind-wiped, that I estimate 20/80 against. Makes sense, but not very likely because the things it fixes aren't seen as problems. More likely Rey is just a Mary Sue. That's just needed because we can't have fumbling panicked people today in Hollywood blockbusters. Everyone the audience has to care for is already overly perfect.They already want Finn to suddenly be a bad-ass. If he can do what he can, what can a force sensitive future Jedi do?

I want statistics about how many people googled Mary Sue after TFA and started to include it in their dictionary. If people think Rey is a Mary Sue, then it won't need much time for that term to lose all of its meaning.
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
January 03 2016 16:38 GMT
#3256
They deliberately want to keep politics to not just a minimum, but a zero. The general audience don't care at all for that. That's why they blew up the Galactic senate so it won't be as odd when the just ignore it. The universe can now revolve around the protagonists. A galactic senate would just get in the way of the plot or slow it down.
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
January 03 2016 16:39 GMT
#3257
On January 04 2016 01:34 Volband wrote:
I want statistics about how many people googled Mary Sue after TFA and started to include it in their dictionary. If people think Rey is a Mary Sue, then it won't need much time for that term to lose all of its meaning.


What's her flaw?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 03 2016 16:41 GMT
#3258
On January 04 2016 01:38 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
They deliberately want to keep politics to not just a minimum, but a zero. The general audience don't care at all for that. That's why they blew up the Galactic senate so it won't be as odd when the just ignore it. The universe can now revolve around the protagonists. A galactic senate would just get in the way of the plot or slow it down.

I think they wanted a reset on politics from the PT. It'll return in a much less convoluted form that will be 1) easier to understand, 2) easier to predict. It'll probably annoy some people but for most it'll be just enough to be interesting.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 16:46:12
January 03 2016 16:46 GMT
#3259
Like we knew anything about the current Senate. No need for a reset. They could just turn it into whatever they wanted.

OT barely had politics. They just want to keep it out because these are action-oriented black-white fantasy movies.
That the prequels failed adding politics well doesn't mean it can;t be done well. It just doesn't sell. So be it a Star Wars movie or a Star Trek movie, the goal is to keep out politics. Blowing up the senate, and making sure the audience knows, lets them do whatever they want with zero politics in VIII 'because the senate was blown up'.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
January 03 2016 17:01 GMT
#3260
On January 04 2016 01:34 Volband wrote:
Oh, the cringe of 9gag, where people use or pretend to be kids in hopes to somehow strengthen their opinion. "I'm only 10 years old but I think TFA lacked depth, and tried to cover it with action scenes. I was much more interested in the politics than some fancy X-Wing action. Am I the only one ????!!!!!!" or "I brought my 10 years old kid with me to watch TFA in the movies. I did not like it, but tried my best not to show it to him. After the movie, he grabbed me by the arm and said: dad, this movie was terrible. I want to go home and rewatch the OT instead, because it's just so much better."

*Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh* Just... don't.

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 01:33 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
Rey being trained and mind-wiped, that I estimate 20/80 against. Makes sense, but not very likely because the things it fixes aren't seen as problems. More likely Rey is just a Mary Sue. That's just needed because we can't have fumbling panicked people today in Hollywood blockbusters. Everyone the audience has to care for is already overly perfect.They already want Finn to suddenly be a bad-ass. If he can do what he can, what can a force sensitive future Jedi do?

I want statistics about how many people googled Mary Sue after TFA and started to include it in their dictionary. If people think Rey is a Mary Sue, then it won't need much time for that term to lose all of its meaning.


I just googled the term and She is a Mary Sue in Chaper VII.
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