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Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 01 2012 21:40 GMT
#561
On April 02 2012 00:29 Polar Mania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 23:32 exalted wrote:
The people who are complaining about the "shaky cam" during violent scenes are not realizing that they probably purposely choreographed it as such to get away with a PG-13 rating. The movie is already controversial with the kids killing kids theme - can anyone name other movie examples that involve kids getting graphically killed?


Seen this?

[image loading]

Edit: Making link work.


All of your "contributions" to this thread so far have been sarcastic remarks and hyperbole, various iterations of "horrible" and zero attention to the story in general. Now you're gracing us with a picture from a movie you don't even bother to introduce to prove your point - and Super is probably the worst example you could have picked for that argument for a variety of reasons.

Just leave this thread. You and all the other trolls just stomping on this discussion for the sake of ridiculous arguments, ad-hominem attacks and bashing for the sake of stirring up other people. Go. There's the logout. Take your misguided agression elsewhere and don't come back.
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:48:58
April 01 2012 21:43 GMT
#562
I never read the books, and I am not too into knowing actors.. But the movie was great! I suggest you all see it. I'm 21, and this movie did not seem towards the tween audience at all.

Edit: Man, after reading much of this thread, I am seeing a lot of hate! So much nitpicking going on. I can understand if you read the book and you were upset if the movie didn't do it justice, but some of the things being said are just wrong in my opinion. Some are saying the main characters (Catness and the dude.. and Rue) have zero development and that people have NO reason to like them. Are you kidding? Catness sacrificed herself for her sister in an extremely emotional moment. How can you not care about her decision to volunteer?
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:54:03
April 01 2012 21:52 GMT
#563
They are supposedly super pro at throwing knives... (shown like 30 minutes before they start killing each other) but they can't hit the girl on the tree and proceeds to just give up...no daggers in their sleeves...

The girl up on the tree doesn't go down to take their weapons away from them or take their knives and stab them/slit their throats while they are sleeping ( they don't scream in real life, they grasp for breath when stabbed ) What better time to kill them than when they're not resisting...

Of all things... why does the African dude always gotta die...

a very heavily toned down battle royale...
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 01:45:50
April 02 2012 01:43 GMT
#564
On April 02 2012 06:52 nalgene wrote:
They are supposedly super pro at throwing knives... (shown like 30 minutes before they start killing each other) but they can't hit the girl on the tree and proceeds to just give up...no daggers in their sleeves...

The girl up on the tree doesn't go down to take their weapons away from them or take their knives and stab them/slit their throats while they are sleeping ( they don't scream in real life, they grasp for breath when stabbed ) What better time to kill them than when they're not resisting...

Of all things... why does the African dude always gotta die...

a very heavily toned down battle royale...


She was asleep? Kinda hard to slit people's throats when you're asleep + in pain from a very injured leg. Plus she needs to go and take one of their weapons, if she fails at it she dies. That's not easy.

Good luck throwing a dagger straight up through all the branches to hit a target assuming said target doesn't just go up higher or around to the other side of the tree. Even like 6m-10m is a long throw horizontally, good luck doing 1-1.5x that straight up with gravity working against you + no ability to use good throwing form.

Same with bow, awkward to shoot, unlikely to hit, and those arrows are a lifeline. Even individually those arrows may be useful to the group now to waste on Katniss, but at some point those people are expecting to be on your own. If you are Glimmer do you really want to risk your best chance of survival (the only ranged weapon in the arena) trying to hit a girl that for all purposes seems trapped.

Too many people have way too unrealistic expectations about this sort of stuff.
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
April 02 2012 01:54 GMT
#565
On April 02 2012 06:52 nalgene wrote:
They are supposedly super pro at throwing knives... (shown like 30 minutes before they start killing each other) but they can't hit the girl on the tree and proceeds to just give up...no daggers in their sleeves...

The girl up on the tree doesn't go down to take their weapons away from them or take their knives and stab them/slit their throats while they are sleeping ( they don't scream in real life, they grasp for breath when stabbed ) What better time to kill them than when they're not resisting...

Of all things... why does the African dude always gotta die...

a very heavily toned down battle royale...


As a throwing knife enthusiast, I can tell you that horizontal distance throwing at a moving target requires substantial skill.

Throwing upwards is nigh impossible, because you can't work through the full throwing motion, because you can't judge the target as easily, and because of gravity and other factors.

In short, throwing up is a pain in the ass to try.
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mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
April 02 2012 01:55 GMT
#566
So, I just finished the book series.

I know this will sound blasphemous, but the movie does a much better job at portraying the overall story of the series, than the first book does. Explanation below:

+ Show Spoiler [major, major book spoilers] +
It is clear from the end of the third book, that had Coin remained in power, the cycle of murder (hunger games) would continue in one way or another, which would have led to another trilogy using different characters and the same outcome. The message here was that we can't use the same methods hoping for different results. Eventually, if we drop enough bombs, we become the villains. Katniss recognized this (or maybe she knew it intuitively, who knows) but she stopped the cycle which would keep humanity never far away from another war.

The idea behind the books was that rebellion follows acts that are deemed immoral by the world, regardless of how they are presented. Even if people are too afraid to show it, they will eventually be pushed over the edge if they are being oppressed and seek to overthrow. Assuming they are successful, history has dictated that many of the victors do just as evil things to the people they have conquered. We try to downplay this, nor has there been no atrocity as big as the Holocaust, but it still happens.

Alright, now that that premise of the book is done, we move on to what the movie portrays in "the Hunger Games," which is that of rebelling from the district in which Rue comes. I suppose this can be attributed to the lack of 3rd person narrative, but still the movie shows rebellion much better than the book does. The book doesn't even mention a rebellion until the very end (post-victory), and that is subtly hinted at in a foreshadowing approach. So from the perspective of the author, I believe the case can be made that it is a stronger writing style to escalate the situation between rebels and capital. But the movie makes the intentions much clearer, which is why I believe there is a better case for it (minor differences aside, some of which did annoy me)
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Polar Mania
Profile Joined March 2012
9 Posts
April 02 2012 01:59 GMT
#567
On April 02 2012 06:40 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 00:29 Polar Mania wrote:
On April 01 2012 23:32 exalted wrote:
The people who are complaining about the "shaky cam" during violent scenes are not realizing that they probably purposely choreographed it as such to get away with a PG-13 rating. The movie is already controversial with the kids killing kids theme - can anyone name other movie examples that involve kids getting graphically killed?


Seen this?

[image loading]

Edit: Making link work.


All of your "contributions" to this thread so far have been sarcastic remarks and hyperbole, various iterations of "horrible" and zero attention to the story in general. Now you're gracing us with a picture from a movie you don't even bother to introduce to prove your point - and Super is probably the worst example you could have picked for that argument for a variety of reasons.

Just leave this thread. You and all the other trolls just stomping on this discussion for the sake of ridiculous arguments, ad-hominem attacks and bashing for the sake of stirring up other people. Go. There's the logout. Take your misguided agression elsewhere and don't come back.


Wow, you are an idiot. The guy asked whether there were any other movies where children get killed, I pasted a link to the movie Super where a girl gets half her head blown off. Stop acting like such an arrogant hall monitor, it just makes you look like a backseat moderator. Do you realise how much of a dick you sound like when you say shit like:

"Go. There's the logout. Take your misguided agression elsewhere and don't come back."

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MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
April 02 2012 04:10 GMT
#568
I saw the movie a bit earlier and I enjoyed it having not read the books. The only thing that really irked me was the fact that when Katniss was in the tree, they were all like "whatever just leave her it's fine. Now make a fire" If they just took said fire and burned the tree down, then like ran to a river it would be an easy certain death way to take out Katniss right there. But instead they just chose to sleep right under a lightly armed girl who's trying to kill them. But other than that the movie was pretty good.
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 02 2012 04:22 GMT
#569
I liked the movie, just saw it this morning...

It left some of the book stuff out, but it didn't really affect the movie negatively all that much-the story was still very much intact and fairly faithful to the book, imo.

To people hating on the whole Katniss in a tree w/ careers hangin around bit, remember that they are characterized as arrogant early in the movie-most likely, they didn't expect that she would be able to do anything to them since she didn't have any weapons that she was any good with (one knife, yikes~).

The only part that was weird to me was when they were creating things at will in the arena-the tree and the dogs out of nowhere were a little silly ~_~; Also, what was the point of splitting the Peeta+bread=un-dead katniss flashback?
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Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 04:33:46
April 02 2012 04:30 GMT
#570
I heard about the movie a few weeks ago. After a friend described the premise, I couldn't help but feel a strange connection to Battle Royale. I own both the movies and read the book six years ago, so I was pretty skeptical, especially given how close the plot APPEARED to be.

I finished the last book yesterday. Good series. It wasn't without fault, but it was a decent read. Definitely not Battle Royale (similar, but shoots in a different direction).

Saw the movie with my girlfriend tonight. We both enjoyed it. Kept mostly true to the book and even the extra scenes weren't bad. Definitely seeing the second if (most likely when) they make it.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 05:32:12
April 02 2012 05:13 GMT
#571
On April 02 2012 06:43 LarJarsE wrote:
I never read the books, and I am not too into knowing actors.. But the movie was great! I suggest you all see it. I'm 21, and this movie did not seem towards the tween audience at all.

Edit: Man, after reading much of this thread, I am seeing a lot of hate! So much nitpicking going on. I can understand if you read the book and you were upset if the movie didn't do it justice, but some of the things being said are just wrong in my opinion. Some are saying the main characters (Catness and the dude.. and Rue) have zero development and that people have NO reason to like them. Are you kidding? Catness sacrificed herself for her sister in an extremely emotional moment. How can you not care about her decision to volunteer?


She sacrificed herself in the most stereotypical movie ways, i think any intelligent viewer saw it coming even before they went to the "reaping". A standard "don't leave me!"-scene where they cry and hug doesn't really make for good characters or good character development to me.

Write it off as nitpicking or hating, i just didn't care for the characters and though the movie was very predictable and bland.
meeyoop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States131 Posts
April 02 2012 06:25 GMT
#572
On April 02 2012 13:10 MeteorRise wrote:
I saw the movie a bit earlier and I enjoyed it having not read the books. The only thing that really irked me was the fact that when Katniss was in the tree, they were all like "whatever just leave her it's fine. Now make a fire" If they just took said fire and burned the tree down, then like ran to a river it would be an easy certain death way to take out Katniss right there. But instead they just chose to sleep right under a lightly armed girl who's trying to kill them. But other than that the movie was pretty good.


Ahh yeah, I do think that they left her in the tree because Peeta, who joined their group, was trying to protect her/give her a chance to survive and so convinced them to leave her alone for the time being. Also, the only reason they even listened to him instead of killing him right away was because they wanted to use him to get to her.

I liked the movie a lot and was surprised at how closely it followed the book. Not exactly the same, but pretty darn close.
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Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
April 02 2012 06:41 GMT
#573
So in a slight tangent, this movie has effectively blocked the idea of an American Battle Royale remake. Just for that, I'm glad the movie was made, so I will go watch it.
Aratan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
April 02 2012 06:53 GMT
#574
I thought this could have been a really good movie, everything set up before the fight was amazing. But the fighting itself left me really disappointed. First off, why on Earth would they be making alliances in a battle where only one person could win, sooner or later the group would have to know that they would end up betraying each other. Also leaving Katniss is the tree was kinda dumb, it would take her about 3 days to die from dehydration, why not back up 10 feet and then try the arrows again. Last fight was just kinda bad, Cato didn't really do anything cool throughout the entire movie to prove that he was as much as a bad ass as he was acting. All in all pretty disappointing, at the end I felt sad on how great it could have been. Could have been like a Naruto forest of death thing..
mjxn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia939 Posts
April 02 2012 06:58 GMT
#575
They should had just used Peeta to lure her down by threatening to kill him or kill him straight away now they had her trapped.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 11:10:50
April 02 2012 07:59 GMT
#576
http://i.imgur.com/uZ0Q8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/j7Uft.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XZQ8s.jpg
If only they made the black dude kill the girl by punching ( no weapons )

If only they would show something like this in the movie... and why can't she fight all 4 of them at once in the morning? or 3 since the other dude isn't really with them... some Spaniards could do it 1v8...aren't they like supposedly trained similarly...

Why can't they start a fire and try to light that one tree...? They already are able to light stuff on fire in the movie...they also have enough to forge stuff from wrought iron with that same fire.
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Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
April 02 2012 09:38 GMT
#577
Starting a fire in a heavily forested arena is always a good idea. They don't know, that the game makers could probably stop it if they felt like it.
ScrambledX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Finland296 Posts
April 02 2012 11:01 GMT
#578
Watched with a friend of mine couple days back. Had seen the trailer, and I was expecting a proper movie. It wasnt bad but not as good as I hoped for =( Reminded me alot of Battle Royale, but toned down by a heavy hand. Somewhat lame plot, you could always guess whats going to happen next. Felt a tad long too, over 2 hours...

On a side note, was funny to watch my friend freak out in every "scary" part, she always covered her ears and closed her eyes
like a 6 year old. And shes 20 =p The part with the bee hive, I glanced to my right and saw her sitting there like that made my day. Gonna pick her about it for a looong time ^^
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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 02 2012 13:56 GMT
#579
On April 02 2012 10:55 mastergriggy wrote:
So, I just finished the book series.

I know this will sound blasphemous, but the movie does a much better job at portraying the overall story of the series, than the first book does. Explanation below:

+ Show Spoiler [major, major book spoilers] +
It is clear from the end of the third book, that had Coin remained in power, the cycle of murder (hunger games) would continue in one way or another, which would have led to another trilogy using different characters and the same outcome. The message here was that we can't use the same methods hoping for different results. Eventually, if we drop enough bombs, we become the villains. Katniss recognized this (or maybe she knew it intuitively, who knows) but she stopped the cycle which would keep humanity never far away from another war.

The idea behind the books was that rebellion follows acts that are deemed immoral by the world, regardless of how they are presented. Even if people are too afraid to show it, they will eventually be pushed over the edge if they are being oppressed and seek to overthrow. Assuming they are successful, history has dictated that many of the victors do just as evil things to the people they have conquered. We try to downplay this, nor has there been no atrocity as big as the Holocaust, but it still happens.

Alright, now that that premise of the book is done, we move on to what the movie portrays in "the Hunger Games," which is that of rebelling from the district in which Rue comes. I suppose this can be attributed to the lack of 3rd person narrative, but still the movie shows rebellion much better than the book does. The book doesn't even mention a rebellion until the very end (post-victory), and that is subtly hinted at in a foreshadowing approach. So from the perspective of the author, I believe the case can be made that it is a stronger writing style to escalate the situation between rebels and capital. But the movie makes the intentions much clearer, which is why I believe there is a better case for it (minor differences aside, some of which did annoy me)


+ Show Spoiler +

I don't think thats what the books end with. They show that rebellion against tyranny and oppression is often replaced by different tyranny and oppression (to wit. Animal Farm). Infact though Coin is now dead, there will still be oppression of the capitol, just perhaps a tad less sadistic. Katniss realized that the new boss was no different than the old boss.

Another idea that I think the books raised was the even when you are brtually oppressed its very difficult to muster the courage to rebel. It takes a central figurehead, someone who defies expectations to start a successful revolution. You need someone to start the fire (quite literally the girl/boy on fire). Real news mirrors this: Without Bouazazi there would be no Arab Spring. Incidentally Arab spring shows another part of the books coming through: The old dictators are just replaced by new dictators. There has been significant upheavel but no real change.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
April 02 2012 14:04 GMT
#580
Except i few scenes i really have to say that I enjoyed the movie alot. I think Jeniffer Lawrence was quite good as Katniss and if you read the books, you should definitely watch the movie!
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