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No, this is not a joke/trolling thread. We don't need more filler posts asking if it is.

Remember to spoiler season 6 content, and clearly label your spoilers.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
September 17 2011 17:01 GMT
#2261
On September 18 2011 01:56 ArcticVanguard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 01:31 GreYMisT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Anyone else think that Pinkie Pie in utter badass mode is hilarious?

+ Show Spoiler +
I thought it was funny, but I was hoping for the return of Pinkamena. It was a bit disappointing that she just stayed normal.

+ Show Spoiler +
Me too.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
September 17 2011 17:18 GMT
#2262
I loved Q as discord, John de Lancie will forever be known for that kind of roll, haha.

Overall, great episode, I'm glad season 2 started off great. Can't wait for next week!
OMGIllithan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States101 Posts
September 17 2011 19:12 GMT
#2263
Wow, I just rewatched part of the episode on youtube and I didn't realize how much the animation improved! It really shows when you compare 720p to the low quality stream I watched this morning.
Greatness, at any cost.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 17 2011 19:26 GMT
#2264
Random picture I found amusing.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
September 17 2011 19:37 GMT
#2265
I found a nice comment / well thought out comment about the episode. Felt like sharing it because it makes Discord really badass. xD

+ Show Spoiler +
think a lot of people are missing the bigger picture here. Discord isn't trying to corrupt all of the elements of harmony, just one: Twilight's. He's not tricking anypony, he's tormenting them and then using them as puppets to make Twilight feel like her friendships are falling apart. It's not about them, it's about her.

Let's look at the rather deft use of imagery throughout the episode. Discord is portrayed as a puppeteer, in the stained glass windows and again in the "Grove of Truth" scene. I think this is meant to be taken literally: he's not manipulating the ponies into abandoning their elements, he's using them as puppets. When he "possesses" them or whatever he's doing, their color drains away. They lose something vital: free will, or the ability to make their own choices, or whatever it is that makes them who they are, however you define it. They do what he wants, even if he doesn't have a direct mind control link.

This raises an important question: if Discord is a puppeteer, who is the puppet show meant for? I think it's pretty obviously Twilight. At the end of Applejack's scene, he could have chosen to reunite her with any of the others, but he chose Twilight because he wants her to see her friends at their worst. Likewise, after each scene, as another pony rejoins the group, it's Twilight who reacts to her changed behavior. The writers take the time to show us her reaction, and in a 22-minute episode about six characters with a whole mess of backstory, that's quite a red flag. Those reactions are important.

But what about Dash? Doesn't he offer her a choice? No. He's really just feeding her a cue. We know that Dash wouldn't choose to abandon her friends when Cloudsdale is in danger because she didn't do it earlier when Clooudsdale was having a nasty cola storm. She stayed in Ponyville to help them clean up the cotton candy clouds. She doesn't really have the choice, he's just using her to make another wrinkle.

What's the point of all the theatrics, then, if he's just hypnotizing them? Why bother to lure Applejack to the Grove of Truth, or make Pinkie Pie doubt her laughter in the balloon park, or show Rarity the illusion of the diamonds? Because he's sadistic, and he's playing with them. He only loses his cool and zaps Fluttershy because she's ruining his fun. He's just bucking with them. Because he can. This isn't a game; there aren't any rules; he's not really giving them a choice. He's just torturing them. For fun.

Granted, I can't really offer a full reading of the show because, like the rest of you, I've only seen half of it so far, but I think that the whole point of this has been to get to Twilight. She's the one who felt the "spark" of friendship in Season 1 Episode 2, which makes her the weak link. Discord isn't really a trickster; he's a bad dude who's trying to extinguish that spark by using Twilight's friends against her. If he is playing a game with them, he's using Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Fluttershy and Dash as the pieces, and Twilight Sparkle is his true opponent.
"Mudkip"
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
September 17 2011 19:41 GMT
#2266
200,000 thread views!

=D
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:51:11
September 17 2011 19:50 GMT
#2267
On September 18 2011 04:41 phant wrote:
200,000 thread views!

=D


Happy Birthday!
+ Show Spoiler +
&#91;image loading&#93;


On September 18 2011 04:37 Madkipz wrote:
I found a nice comment / well thought out comment about the episode. Felt like sharing it because it makes Discord really badass. xD

+ Show Spoiler +
think a lot of people are missing the bigger picture here. Discord isn't trying to corrupt all of the elements of harmony, just one: Twilight's. He's not tricking anypony, he's tormenting them and then using them as puppets to make Twilight feel like her friendships are falling apart. It's not about them, it's about her.

Let's look at the rather deft use of imagery throughout the episode. Discord is portrayed as a puppeteer, in the stained glass windows and again in the "Grove of Truth" scene. I think this is meant to be taken literally: he's not manipulating the ponies into abandoning their elements, he's using them as puppets. When he "possesses" them or whatever he's doing, their color drains away. They lose something vital: free will, or the ability to make their own choices, or whatever it is that makes them who they are, however you define it. They do what he wants, even if he doesn't have a direct mind control link.

This raises an important question: if Discord is a puppeteer, who is the puppet show meant for? I think it's pretty obviously Twilight. At the end of Applejack's scene, he could have chosen to reunite her with any of the others, but he chose Twilight because he wants her to see her friends at their worst. Likewise, after each scene, as another pony rejoins the group, it's Twilight who reacts to her changed behavior. The writers take the time to show us her reaction, and in a 22-minute episode about six characters with a whole mess of backstory, that's quite a red flag. Those reactions are important.

But what about Dash? Doesn't he offer her a choice? No. He's really just feeding her a cue. We know that Dash wouldn't choose to abandon her friends when Cloudsdale is in danger because she didn't do it earlier when Clooudsdale was having a nasty cola storm. She stayed in Ponyville to help them clean up the cotton candy clouds. She doesn't really have the choice, he's just using her to make another wrinkle.

What's the point of all the theatrics, then, if he's just hypnotizing them? Why bother to lure Applejack to the Grove of Truth, or make Pinkie Pie doubt her laughter in the balloon park, or show Rarity the illusion of the diamonds? Because he's sadistic, and he's playing with them. He only loses his cool and zaps Fluttershy because she's ruining his fun. He's just bucking with them. Because he can. This isn't a game; there aren't any rules; he's not really giving them a choice. He's just torturing them. For fun.

Granted, I can't really offer a full reading of the show because, like the rest of you, I've only seen half of it so far, but I think that the whole point of this has been to get to Twilight. She's the one who felt the "spark" of friendship in Season 1 Episode 2, which makes her the weak link. Discord isn't really a trickster; he's a bad dude who's trying to extinguish that spark by using Twilight's friends against her. If he is playing a game with them, he's using Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Fluttershy and Dash as the pieces, and Twilight Sparkle is his true opponent.


I enjoyed this write up, I agree with it ^_^
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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 20:02:50
September 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2268
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is all.

[Edit] I also like that writup on Discord. ^_^

And yes, I'm now armed with some season 2 images. Beware.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 17 2011 20:05 GMT
#2269
OMG I want part 2 NOOWWWWW FUCK
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
September 17 2011 20:06 GMT
#2270
OMG i looove the S2 Ep1, Flutterbitch, Discord, the chocolate rain, fucking everything!
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
September 17 2011 20:06 GMT
#2271
On September 18 2011 04:50 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:41 phant wrote:
200,000 thread views!

=D


Happy Birthday!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:37 Madkipz wrote:
I found a nice comment / well thought out comment about the episode. Felt like sharing it because it makes Discord really badass. xD

+ Show Spoiler +
think a lot of people are missing the bigger picture here. Discord isn't trying to corrupt all of the elements of harmony, just one: Twilight's. He's not tricking anypony, he's tormenting them and then using them as puppets to make Twilight feel like her friendships are falling apart. It's not about them, it's about her.

Let's look at the rather deft use of imagery throughout the episode. Discord is portrayed as a puppeteer, in the stained glass windows and again in the "Grove of Truth" scene. I think this is meant to be taken literally: he's not manipulating the ponies into abandoning their elements, he's using them as puppets. When he "possesses" them or whatever he's doing, their color drains away. They lose something vital: free will, or the ability to make their own choices, or whatever it is that makes them who they are, however you define it. They do what he wants, even if he doesn't have a direct mind control link.

This raises an important question: if Discord is a puppeteer, who is the puppet show meant for? I think it's pretty obviously Twilight. At the end of Applejack's scene, he could have chosen to reunite her with any of the others, but he chose Twilight because he wants her to see her friends at their worst. Likewise, after each scene, as another pony rejoins the group, it's Twilight who reacts to her changed behavior. The writers take the time to show us her reaction, and in a 22-minute episode about six characters with a whole mess of backstory, that's quite a red flag. Those reactions are important.

But what about Dash? Doesn't he offer her a choice? No. He's really just feeding her a cue. We know that Dash wouldn't choose to abandon her friends when Cloudsdale is in danger because she didn't do it earlier when Clooudsdale was having a nasty cola storm. She stayed in Ponyville to help them clean up the cotton candy clouds. She doesn't really have the choice, he's just using her to make another wrinkle.

What's the point of all the theatrics, then, if he's just hypnotizing them? Why bother to lure Applejack to the Grove of Truth, or make Pinkie Pie doubt her laughter in the balloon park, or show Rarity the illusion of the diamonds? Because he's sadistic, and he's playing with them. He only loses his cool and zaps Fluttershy because she's ruining his fun. He's just bucking with them. Because he can. This isn't a game; there aren't any rules; he's not really giving them a choice. He's just torturing them. For fun.

Granted, I can't really offer a full reading of the show because, like the rest of you, I've only seen half of it so far, but I think that the whole point of this has been to get to Twilight. She's the one who felt the "spark" of friendship in Season 1 Episode 2, which makes her the weak link. Discord isn't really a trickster; he's a bad dude who's trying to extinguish that spark by using Twilight's friends against her. If he is playing a game with them, he's using Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Fluttershy and Dash as the pieces, and Twilight Sparkle is his true opponent.


I enjoyed this write up, I agree with it ^_^


Season 2 premier on my birthday? Best present EVER!
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 20:09:19
September 17 2011 20:07 GMT
#2272
On September 18 2011 05:06 Uvantak wrote:
chocolate rain

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Yes. Very yes. =)
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
September 17 2011 20:09 GMT
#2273
On September 18 2011 05:01 Gary Oak wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is all.

[Edit] I also like that writup on Discord. ^_^

And yes, I'm now armed with some season 2 images. Beware.

Celestia is not amused

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
September 17 2011 20:10 GMT
#2274
I guess this is what she does when she's mad.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
pepkin88
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 20:32:18
September 17 2011 20:27 GMT
#2275
— waited patiently for s02e01
— intentionally missed the premiere
— watched in HD
— still can wait for s02e02 with no problem
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
U JELLY?
+ Show Spoiler +
just kidding
Lynda
Profile Joined May 2010
649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 22:04:47
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#2276
+ Show Spoiler +
also this episode was completed at the same time season 1 was produced and was originally meant to be the season 1 finale, but it was held over for season 2

which means that this was produced before the brony phenomenon was truly realised, making this ep that much more mindblowing. I wonder what they'll have in store for us when we'll get to the "actual" season 2 eps...

edit: actually nevermind this post as it turned out to be inaccurate, thanks to phant for correcting me on the next page
rockerman101
Profile Joined June 2011
United States85 Posts
September 17 2011 20:41 GMT
#2277
+ Show Spoiler +
think a lot of people are missing the bigger picture here. Discord isn't trying to corrupt all of the elements of harmony, just one: Twilight's. He's not tricking anypony, he's tormenting them and then using them as puppets to make Twilight feel like her friendships are falling apart. It's not about them, it's about her.

Let's look at the rather deft use of imagery throughout the episode. Discord is portrayed as a puppeteer, in the stained glass windows and again in the "Grove of Truth" scene. I think this is meant to be taken literally: he's not manipulating the ponies into abandoning their elements, he's using them as puppets. When he "possesses" them or whatever he's doing, their color drains away. They lose something vital: free will, or the ability to make their own choices, or whatever it is that makes them who they are, however you define it. They do what he wants, even if he doesn't have a direct mind control link.

This raises an important question: if Discord is a puppeteer, who is the puppet show meant for? I think it's pretty obviously Twilight. At the end of Applejack's scene, he could have chosen to reunite her with any of the others, but he chose Twilight because he wants her to see her friends at their worst. Likewise, after each scene, as another pony rejoins the group, it's Twilight who reacts to her changed behavior. The writers take the time to show us her reaction, and in a 22-minute episode about six characters with a whole mess of backstory, that's quite a red flag. Those reactions are important.

But what about Dash? Doesn't he offer her a choice? No. He's really just feeding her a cue. We know that Dash wouldn't choose to abandon her friends when Cloudsdale is in danger because she didn't do it earlier when Clooudsdale was having a nasty cola storm. She stayed in Ponyville to help them clean up the cotton candy clouds. She doesn't really have the choice, he's just using her to make another wrinkle.

What's the point of all the theatrics, then, if he's just hypnotizing them? Why bother to lure Applejack to the Grove of Truth, or make Pinkie Pie doubt her laughter in the balloon park, or show Rarity the illusion of the diamonds? Because he's sadistic, and he's playing with them. He only loses his cool and zaps Fluttershy because she's ruining his fun. He's just bucking with them. Because he can. This isn't a game; there aren't any rules; he's not really giving them a choice. He's just torturing them. For fun.

Granted, I can't really offer a full reading of the show because, like the rest of you, I've only seen half of it so far, but I think that the whole point of this has been to get to Twilight. She's the one who felt the "spark" of friendship in Season 1 Episode 2, which makes her the weak link. Discord isn't really a trickster; he's a bad dude who's trying to extinguish that spark by using Twilight's friends against her. If he is playing a game with them, he's using Applejack, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Fluttershy and Dash as the pieces, and Twilight Sparkle is his true opponent.
you my good sir are a genius I was not really looking at the episode very deep but you obviously are
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
September 17 2011 20:44 GMT
#2278
On September 18 2011 05:40 Squarewalker wrote:
which means that this was produced before the brony phenomenon was truly realised, making this ep that much more mindblowing. I wonder what they'll have in store for us when we'll get to the "actual" season 2 eps...

I...completely forgot about that.

Dear shit.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
September 17 2011 20:48 GMT
#2279
I'm ignoring the past few pages because I don't want to accidentally spoil myself, I just have a question: in my story I was using filly to mean "female pony" because that's what I thought it meant. I didn't realize it meant "young female pony" - since I'm treating RD and friends as adults, I'll have to change that right?
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
September 17 2011 20:52 GMT
#2280
Yeah, fillies are the children.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
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