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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 06 2016 06:23 GMT
#13901
Natalie Dormer what a player
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
June 06 2016 06:43 GMT
#13902
If LSH still happens (which there have been quite a few indications of now), it's been a pretty good season for the Starks lol.

Jon resurrected. Sansa saved and finally with family. Arya will presumably survive her stab wounds and go back to Westeros. Benjen still lives and meets up with Bran. They've had worse
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 06 2016 06:50 GMT
#13903
I don't like this Brotherhood killing peasants things we saw in last episode. Wasn't it said in the books they are only ones not doing that?
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 06 2016 06:56 GMT
#13904
In the books, Thoros points out that ever since LSH took command, the BWB has sunk low and is made of men who are no better than any other outlaws. See here.

Also, and I'm wondering if I'm alone on this, but I feel like Jon's death has had no impact on his character. I know the season is not over, but I really would expect him to be a lot harsher. A lot more brutal or unforgiving. Or at least, to not be willing to put up with petty quabbles while the Others are on the way. I feel like Davos' speech to Lyanna Mormont about the dead men coming should have been delivered by an angry, jaded Jon.
I like words.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
June 06 2016 08:06 GMT
#13905
On June 06 2016 15:56 Spaylz wrote:

Also, and I'm wondering if I'm alone on this, but I feel like Jon's death has had no impact on his character. I know the season is not over, but I really would expect him to be a lot harsher. A lot more brutal or unforgiving. Or at least, to not be willing to put up with petty quabbles while the Others are on the way. I feel like Davos' speech to Lyanna Mormont about the dead men coming should have been delivered by an angry, jaded Jon.


I do think he has changed. He seems sad that his men betrayed him, despite having nothing but good intentions. Rather than being angry and jaded he seems like a sad puppy. Perhaps not the impact you hoped for but it's an impact nonetheless
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
June 06 2016 12:55 GMT
#13906
I've read a lot of speculation about foreshadowing of Cersei using the wildfire leftover in King'slanding to blow up the city, or threatening to, and that's what will lead to jaime finally breaking ties with her
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
June 06 2016 14:01 GMT
#13907
All this Clegane stuff was quite bad, especially the fact the "septon" was talking to Clegane as if he just walked up, which is definitely not the case. It really felt like they forgot about him and had to explain how he was still alive but in a really bad way.

I can't explain how is Arya still walking after that..
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
June 06 2016 14:09 GMT
#13908
I liked Clegane part. It was a reminder that if you try to be a happy community with hippie style of life in Westeros you are brutally killed.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
June 06 2016 16:32 GMT
#13909
On June 06 2016 23:01 Yhamm wrote:
All this Clegane stuff was quite bad, especially the fact the "septon" was talking to Clegane as if he just walked up, which is definitely not the case. It really felt like they forgot about him and had to explain how he was still alive but in a really bad way.

I can't explain how is Arya still walking after that..

I thought the Clegane stuff was fine, not extremely likely for him to just wander across Sandor, but not impossible either. But I'm extremely biased by CLEGANNEEEBOWLLLL HYPPPEEE. As for Arya, adrenaline is a hell of a thing. Considering the beatings she has taken and recovered from recently she can obviously handle pain. She is totally fucked if she doesn't find help in the next few minutes, even then she is in serious trouble but getting shanked a few times in the gut by a smaller knife seems like something you'd be able to still move to try and survive after for at least a little bit.

My question is, why didn't the waif follow and track her? This is supposed to be a trained assassin not to mention the other faceless man said "Either way a new face will be added" so clearly he wants her face. She just watches her fall off the bridge and is like "Meh... She is probably dead. Job done. Don't need the body or anything."
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
June 06 2016 16:43 GMT
#13910
Really weak episode.
Stork protoss legend
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 17:33:13
June 06 2016 17:31 GMT
#13911
On June 07 2016 01:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
My question is, why didn't the waif follow and track her? This is supposed to be a trained assassin not to mention the other faceless man said "Either way a new face will be added" so clearly he wants her face. She just watches her fall off the bridge and is like "Meh... She is probably dead. Job done. Don't need the body or anything."


I imagine it's because she's already blown her cover. Can't really go around searching for a body to snatch in the middle of the day in her original form.

Anyway, Arya should really not live through this. Even if her superhuman resilience somehow saves her this time around, it shouldn't be hard to track her down and finish the job.

Hopefully they're only teasing us with the chance that she may actually live.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 06 2016 17:41 GMT
#13912
On June 07 2016 02:31 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 01:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
My question is, why didn't the waif follow and track her? This is supposed to be a trained assassin not to mention the other faceless man said "Either way a new face will be added" so clearly he wants her face. She just watches her fall off the bridge and is like "Meh... She is probably dead. Job done. Don't need the body or anything."


I imagine it's because she's already blown her cover. Can't really go around searching for a body to snatch in the middle of the day in her original form.

Anyway, Arya should really not live through this. Even if her superhuman resilience somehow saves her this time around, it shouldn't be hard to track her down and finish the job.

Hopefully they're only teasing us with the chance that she may actually live.

I don't know. The girl chasing her is not the most experienced, her cover is blown and Arya might find help. Alone, Arya is screwed. But if she meets up with the actors and they agree to hide her, I don't think there is much the waif can do.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
June 06 2016 17:41 GMT
#13913
On June 07 2016 02:31 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 01:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
My question is, why didn't the waif follow and track her? This is supposed to be a trained assassin not to mention the other faceless man said "Either way a new face will be added" so clearly he wants her face. She just watches her fall off the bridge and is like "Meh... She is probably dead. Job done. Don't need the body or anything."


I imagine it's because she's already blown her cover. Can't really go around searching for a body to snatch in the middle of the day in her original form.

Anyway, Arya should really not live through this. Even if her superhuman resilience somehow saves her this time around, it shouldn't be hard to track her down and finish the job.

Hopefully they're only teasing us with the chance that she may actually live.

Oh I agree survival should be very unlikely at this point. But considering its Arya I'd put money on her coming out of this. I was merely talking about how the person I quoted said she shouldn't be able to move.

Fitting if she hides with actors to escape the faceless men. Hiding from the faceless with the many faced.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 19:49:47
June 06 2016 19:49 GMT
#13914
Arya can't die because then we'd spend seasons on watching her develop then she gets stabbed and dies

the end of Arya Stark

Shes becoming as boring as Dany now so I imagine its going somewhere.
WriterXiao8~~
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
June 06 2016 20:53 GMT
#13915
Waif worst assassin ever confirmed. Should take a desk job.
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
June 06 2016 21:16 GMT
#13916
On June 07 2016 04:49 Kipsate wrote:
Arya can't die because then we'd spend seasons on watching her develop then she gets stabbed and dies

the end of Arya Stark

Shes becoming as boring as Dany now so I imagine its going somewhere.

Yeah Arya dying is just extremely unlikely considering how her story is presented. Fans would be fucking pissed and so far season6 has been all about fan service/following popular fan theories. It's as if the writers were writing their script by just mixing what the author told them + the most popular theories.

I mean when I saw the very beginning of the episode I instantly thought "oh boy this is sandor clegane, he survived and he is going to fight his brother". And when the guy that saved him went on a rant about the hound being saved by the gods because he still had some role to play ............... yeah ok cleganebowl is 100% happening.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 06 2016 21:37 GMT
#13917
Dany and Arya’s place in the series right now are sort of a result of GRRM writing. Dany was put into this holding pattern while the rest of the drama played out with the war of the houses. The same with Arya, where they send her off to learn to murder people and then she gets to hang out until the plot progresses.

Both are cool if the series didn’t feel the need to center around them and give us step by step information their lives. I could have been happy with Dany just hanging out, building boats of camera. Same with Arya. The glacial pace of some characters development is wearing thin now that we don’t have the books to know where it is headed.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 21:43:20
June 06 2016 21:41 GMT
#13918
I think you have to consider how emotionally charged and arrogant the Waif looked in every interaction with Arya. It was like she's jelly because Arya is becoming Jaqens new favourite acolyte. I don't think you're supposed to show your face in revenge when giving the gift to someone, too.

I think it might be possible the Waif dies instead of Arya by the hands of the kindly man.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
June 06 2016 21:52 GMT
#13919
I mean, he did tell her to make it quick and for her not to suffer. Lower abdominal stab wounds are the definition of slow, painful deaths so...yeah.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 21:56:20
June 06 2016 21:55 GMT
#13920
A detail from reddit regarding arya : + Show Spoiler +
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