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On June 03 2015 05:01 Broetchenholer wrote:
After realizing what line Sam just said about Jon to Olly, my head just exploded and then i waited for the super obvious wink in the direction of the camera...
I had a short moment of terror in Hardholm, entertaining the thought of the whitewalker taking Jon down right there to skip the mutiny all together. I'd say that is the only good thing of the writing of this season, that we really don't know anymore how far they are willing to deviate from the books.
I had a brief thought that they may kill Jon right there as well, but then I remembered the whole Olly thing is there for the mutiny later.
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On June 03 2015 04:55 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 04:42 Lord Tolkien wrote:On June 02 2015 20:41 Conti wrote:On June 02 2015 20:35 KOFgokuon wrote:
People in these scenes can act unlike the fucking sand snakes It's really not the acting that is the issue, it's the cinematography. It's the director's and the cameraman's job to make action sequences look good, and they very much failed with that when it comes to the sand snake scenes. Blame them, not the actors. The biggest issue for the Dornish plot is they put the new guys on it; couple that with only getting a week at the Alcazar (and it raining most of the week), plus historical site considerations, and...yeah. That would certainly explain a lot. Pity, really.
Indeed. The choice of the Real Alcazar was shortsighted; yes, the location is beautiful and would be a breathtaking Water Gardens...if they had the time to properly shoot it. A week was already probably cutting it close, but they forgot weather considerations.
If they had chosen a different site that was only marginally as good as the Alcazar and had a good month to work on the shoot, instead of the probably frantic few days they had, Dorne would've turned out significantly better. More time to choreograph on-site, more time to get different camera angles and shots to edit together, etc. Might've still turned out great if they put the A-team on it, but they were likely working on Wall stuff.
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On June 03 2015 05:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 04:55 Conti wrote:On June 03 2015 04:42 Lord Tolkien wrote:On June 02 2015 20:41 Conti wrote:On June 02 2015 20:35 KOFgokuon wrote:
People in these scenes can act unlike the fucking sand snakes It's really not the acting that is the issue, it's the cinematography. It's the director's and the cameraman's job to make action sequences look good, and they very much failed with that when it comes to the sand snake scenes. Blame them, not the actors. The biggest issue for the Dornish plot is they put the new guys on it; couple that with only getting a week at the Alcazar (and it raining most of the week), plus historical site considerations, and...yeah. That would certainly explain a lot. Pity, really. Indeed. The choice of the Real Alcazar was shortsighted; yes, the location is beautiful and would be a breathtaking Water Gardens...if they had the time to properly shoot it. A week was already probably cutting it close, but they forgot weather considerations. If they had chosen a different site that was only marginally as good as the Alcazar and had a good month to work on the shoot, instead of the probably frantic few days they had, Dorne would've turned out significantly better. More time to choreograph on-site, more time to get different camera angles and shots to edit together, etc. Might've still turned out great if they put the A-team on it, but they were likely working on Wall stuff.
Well, you can't have the A-team work on every single set, after all. And, honestly, Dorne is by far the least important location this season, at least so far, so it makes sense to have the least experienced team work on that.
It's a pretty nice example of how small mistakes like that can lead to such terrible outcomes, though.
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Seems HBO is hyping up Jon's "death", calling it the most shocking thing since.
Did you find it more shocking than Red Wedding?
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On June 05 2015 19:56 -Archangel- wrote:
Seems HBO is hyping up Jon's "death", calling it the most shocking thing since.
Did you find it more shocking than Red Wedding?
Not really. To me, the most shocking death was and still is Ned's.
I don't think it will be clearly shown that Jon is dead either. Like I said before, I'm rather certain Jon being stabbed will be the last thing we see. He will lose consciousness and the credits will roll, ending the season. Then the Unsullied will either be infuriated, dubious, or incredulous. It will be fun to see.
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Or it won't happen and then you guys will be infuriated, dubious or incredulous XD
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I would be incredulous if John Snow who just happened to kill a White Walker gets stabbed to death by a little boy.
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If there's one thing that's sure, it's that the show is a whole lot less subtle about these things. So I'd say, by the end of the season we will know for sure if Jon is truly dead or not.
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On June 05 2015 20:23 KadaverBB wrote:
Or it won't happen and then you guys will be infuriated, dubious or incredulous XD
That's what my girlfriend said to me yesterday. Imagine they don't kill him. Or they make it obvious that he survives, showing ghost twitching or Melisandre getting ready to ressurect him.
D&D's houses will be on fire an hour after the episode aired.
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On June 05 2015 20:29 helpman176 wrote:
I would be incredulous if John Snow who just happened to kill a White Walker gets stabbed to death by a little boy.
Even Sam can kill a White Walker, it's nothing big :D
On June 05 2015 20:30 Conti wrote:
If there's one thing that's sure, it's that the show is a whole lot less subtle about these things. So I'd say, by the end of the season we will know for sure if Jon is truly dead or not.
I don't know, we couldn't be sure if Barristan was dead or just wounded
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On June 05 2015 20:32 way2mash4u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 20:23 KadaverBB wrote:
Or it won't happen and then you guys will be infuriated, dubious or incredulous XD That's what my girlfriend said to me yesterday. Imagine they don't kill him. Or they make it obvious that he survives, showing ghost twitching or Melisandre getting ready to ressurect him. D&D's houses will be on fire an hour after the episode aired.
how so? The reason you mention those 2 things is, because that s preciely what the book rearders expect. Even more, in the show they cant show Melisandre resurrecting hi, cuz she's far away.
It will be Ghost - warging for sure, maybe Mel comes in later.
It's hardly a spoiler, that Jon is probably gonna be brought back to life, that s the almost unanimous opinion of all the readers, who ever read a forum or participated in a discussion about Jon's stabbing.
The only readers who might really think Jon died are the ones who completly ignore the internet, the show and everything related to GoT. I dont think they are the kind who would set people on fire.
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I don't necessarily see Warging as the answer in the show, mostly because there has been absolutely no indication that anyone in the Stark family aside from Bran has any abilities even closely related to this whatsoever.
But then again, the writing is questionable, so it may happen.
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On June 06 2015 00:04 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 20:32 way2mash4u wrote:On June 05 2015 20:23 KadaverBB wrote:
Or it won't happen and then you guys will be infuriated, dubious or incredulous XD That's what my girlfriend said to me yesterday. Imagine they don't kill him. Or they make it obvious that he survives, showing ghost twitching or Melisandre getting ready to ressurect him. D&D's houses will be on fire an hour after the episode aired. how so? The reason you mention those 2 things is, because that s preciely what the book rearders expect. Even more, in the show they cant show Melisandre resurrecting hi, cuz she's far away. It will be Ghost - warging for sure, maybe Mel comes in later. It's hardly a spoiler, that Jon is probably gonna be brought back to life, that s the almost unanimous opinion of all the readers, who ever read a forum or participated in a discussion about Jon's stabbing. The only readers who might really think Jon died are the ones who completly ignore the internet, the show and everything related to GoT. I dont think they are the kind who would set people on fire.
My guess is that episode 9 will have Melisandre argue with Stannis about killing Shireen. Stannis refuses, so Melisandre heads back to the wall saying that she can't help him and has something else she needs to do. Episode 10, Ramsey will raid Stannis's camp while Melisandre will be at the wall when Jon gets stabbed.
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On June 06 2015 01:21 RenSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 00:04 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 05 2015 20:32 way2mash4u wrote:On June 05 2015 20:23 KadaverBB wrote:
Or it won't happen and then you guys will be infuriated, dubious or incredulous XD That's what my girlfriend said to me yesterday. Imagine they don't kill him. Or they make it obvious that he survives, showing ghost twitching or Melisandre getting ready to ressurect him. D&D's houses will be on fire an hour after the episode aired. how so? The reason you mention those 2 things is, because that s preciely what the book rearders expect. Even more, in the show they cant show Melisandre resurrecting hi, cuz she's far away. It will be Ghost - warging for sure, maybe Mel comes in later. It's hardly a spoiler, that Jon is probably gonna be brought back to life, that s the almost unanimous opinion of all the readers, who ever read a forum or participated in a discussion about Jon's stabbing. The only readers who might really think Jon died are the ones who completly ignore the internet, the show and everything related to GoT. I dont think they are the kind who would set people on fire. My guess is that episode 9 will have Melisandre argue with Stannis about killing Shireen. Stannis refuses, so Melisandre heads back to the wall saying that she can't help him and has something else she needs to do. Episode 10, Ramsey will raid Stannis's camp while Melisandre will be at the wall when Jon gets stabbed.
I made the same assumption that the Shireen sacrifice ends up driving a wedge between Mel and Stan causing Melon to happen.
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On June 06 2015 01:21 RenSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 00:04 Geo.Rion wrote:On June 05 2015 20:32 way2mash4u wrote:On June 05 2015 20:23 KadaverBB wrote:
Or it won't happen and then you guys will be infuriated, dubious or incredulous XD That's what my girlfriend said to me yesterday. Imagine they don't kill him. Or they make it obvious that he survives, showing ghost twitching or Melisandre getting ready to ressurect him. D&D's houses will be on fire an hour after the episode aired. how so? The reason you mention those 2 things is, because that s preciely what the book rearders expect. Even more, in the show they cant show Melisandre resurrecting hi, cuz she's far away. It will be Ghost - warging for sure, maybe Mel comes in later. It's hardly a spoiler, that Jon is probably gonna be brought back to life, that s the almost unanimous opinion of all the readers, who ever read a forum or participated in a discussion about Jon's stabbing. The only readers who might really think Jon died are the ones who completly ignore the internet, the show and everything related to GoT. I dont think they are the kind who would set people on fire. My guess is that episode 9 will have Melisandre argue with Stannis about killing Shireen. Stannis refuses, so Melisandre heads back to the wall saying that she can't help him and has something else she needs to do. Episode 10, Ramsey will raid Stannis's camp while Melisandre will be at the wall when Jon gets stabbed.
yeah, that actually could be it.
I sometimes forget people in the show use TP scrolls
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On June 05 2015 20:53 Sent. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 20:29 helpman176 wrote:
I would be incredulous if John Snow who just happened to kill a White Walker gets stabbed to death by a little boy. Even Sam can kill a White Walker, it's nothing big :D Show nested quote +On June 05 2015 20:30 Conti wrote:
If there's one thing that's sure, it's that the show is a whole lot less subtle about these things. So I'd say, by the end of the season we will know for sure if Jon is truly dead or not. I don't know, we couldn't be sure if Barristan was dead or just wounded
They had a funeral for barristan after he was attacked..
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If they leave jon dead at the end of the season how are they going hide Kit being on set for next season if he is indeed resurrected somehow?
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On June 06 2015 04:56 shark. wrote:
If they leave jon dead at the end of the season how are they going hide Kit being on set for next season if he is indeed resurrected somehow?
they cant with such a major character, but the shooting news would come weeks later, so it would leave the unsullied rattled for sure
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Why would the unsullied be rattled by Jons death exactly?
I'm profoundly confused.
Do you mean the wildlings as they wouldn't have the strong leader of the nights watch on their side?
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On June 06 2015 05:19 SK.Testie wrote:
Why would the unsullied be rattled by Jons death exactly?
I'm profoundly confused.
Do you mean the wildlings as they wouldn't have the strong leader of the nights watch on their side?
"unsullied" is a term for show only watchers, don't ask me why, but that's the way it is^^
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