EPTOn June 02 2015 20:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
It's not only the action scene that was bad
It's not only the action scene that was bad
True, but the action scenes were particularly awful.
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
True, but the action scenes were particularly awful. | ||
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Jacenoob
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But then the big battle, holy shit. This was amazing. Everything about it was perfect. The feeling, the scenery, the CGI, the costumes. I loved the Wildling woman, she was perfectly casted, would have wanted to see her again because she fitted so well, too bad she died. The Giant was just a destroyer, he just shredded everything that came near him, holy shit. I expected him to die a predictable valiant death but fortunately they didn't kill him off. And then seeing the White Walkers on their dead horses on the mountains, watching from a distance, gave me chills, that was perfectly executed. 10/10 episode. | ||
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Gullis
Sweden740 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9275 Posts
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Sholip
Hungary422 Posts
On June 02 2015 22:57 Sent. wrote: The last two episodes will have to be very action-packed if they want to conclude all subplots of this season. It's going to be really hard to cover the Wall, Battle of Winterfell (or at least Sansa stuff), Cersei and the Faith (give slutwalk pls), Arya, Dorne and Meereen in 120 minutes. Yeah, I expect so. However, I am not sure if we will get to see the battle of Winterfell this season (would be kind of disappointing, though), but at least the Ramsay/Sansa/Theon plot should sort of come to a conclusion. Also, I'm afraid that nothing meaningful might happen in Dorne. But yeah, Cersei, Arya, Jon, Dany still provide a lot of exciting stuff for the last two episodes. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
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Geo.Rion
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On June 02 2015 23:09 Sholip wrote: Yeah, I expect so. However, I am not sure if we will get to see the battle of Winterfell this season (would be kind of disappointing, though), but at least the Ramsay/Sansa/Theon plot should sort of come to a conclusion. Also, I'm afraid that nothing meaningful might happen in Dorne. But yeah, Cersei, Arya, Jon, Dany still provide a lot of exciting stuff for the last two episodes. episode 9 gonna be the Wall, Dorne, Arya killing the thin man, Mace Tyrell arrives in Bravos, possibly Ramsay's skirmish, Stannis deciding wether to sacrifice his daughter, concluding with Danny's Arena Episode 10 gonna have Cersei's walk of shame, Danny meeting the dothraki, Stannis marching on winterfell, and concluding with Jon getting stabbed These are pretty much confirmed, the questions are: a) will Arya kill Maryn Trennt this season, if so which episode, my guess would be yes and 10th b) will this season feature a full scale battle between Stannis-Bolton and/or will there be a siege of winterfell. My guess is probably no, but i'd say it s close to 50-50 c) will Lady Stonehart-Uncat make an apperance? the jury is out on that one, it has been definetly teased but who knows. If yes, then definetly the last episode, titled Mother's Mercy | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
Ramsay will sneak into Stannis' army with his men and.. something will happen. Hell, maybe they'll even kill Stannis and Melisandre and the others will flee back to the wall. Wouldn't that be something? | ||
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JeosAdn
Costa Rica432 Posts
On June 02 2015 20:41 Conti wrote: It's really not the acting that is the issue, it's the cinematography. It's the director's and the cameraman's job to make action sequences look good, and they very much failed with that when it comes to the sand snake scenes. Blame them, not the actors. The only way a cameraman could've made those fight scenes look good would be pointing the camera in the opposite direction lol | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On June 03 2015 01:06 JeosAdn wrote: The only way a cameraman could've made those fight scenes look good would be pointing the camera in the opposite direction lol They did the GoT remedy in the prison scene though. Can't make this acting good? Show booooobs. :D works everytime! | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On June 03 2015 01:24 daemir wrote: They did the GoT remedy in the prison scene though. Can't make this acting good? Show booooobs. :D works everytime! I think that one was a very good scene. We could finally see that Tyene is the daughter of Oberyn. Hyper-sexual, posioning, cocky, even the way she formed her sentences was similar how Oberyn did, the intonation, the word order, i actually liked it. I agree that the show had many pointless graphic scenes, but just because one has boobs or blood in it, doesnt mean it's dumb or unnecessary. It was the first good scene with the Sandsnakes. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On June 03 2015 01:36 Geo.Rion wrote: I think that one was a very good scene. We could finally see that Tyene is the daughter of Oberyn. Hyper-sexual, posioning, cocky, even the way she formed her sentences was similar how Oberyn did, the intonation, the word order, i actually liked it. I agree that the show had many pointless graphic scenes, but just because one has boobs or blood in it, doesnt mean it's dumb or unnecessary. It was the first good scene with the Sandsnakes. I guess we have different definitions of good. I thought that scene was pretty terrible. About the rest: I don't think Ramsay would kill Stannis. I mean... MAYBE he could, but that would be horribly disappointing. I think Stannis will capture him. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On June 03 2015 01:06 JeosAdn wrote: The only way a cameraman could've made those fight scenes look good would be pointing the camera in the opposite direction lol Pretty much yea. It was posted here a while ago, short clips of some of the terrible choreography and acting in the fight scenes but they are buried and I'm too lazy to dig them up. Bottom line the best cameraman and director in the world could not have fixed that. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On June 03 2015 01:51 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Pretty much yea. It was posted here a while ago, short clips of some of the terrible choreography and acting in the fight scenes but they are buried and I'm too lazy to dig them up. Bottom line the best cameraman and director in the world could not have fixed that. Er.. it's in the very definition of the director's job not to let scenes like that make it into the final product. They do X takes on action scenes like that, and 90% of them will look awkward and stupid. It's the director's/editor's job to pick the ones that look good, and/or cut them in a way that you won't notice how stupid they are. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1079 Posts
On June 03 2015 01:58 Conti wrote: Er.. it's in the very definition of the director's job not to let scenes like that make it into the final product. They do X takes on action scenes like that, and 90% of them will look awkward and stupid. It's the director's/editor's job to pick the ones that look good, and/or cut them in a way that you won't notice how stupid they are. Ever see a young person pick up a tennis racket for the first time? Watch them swing it 100 times and they'll look awful on every swing. That's what it reminded me of with the sand snakes and their moves. It's like they got zero training on how to swing a weapon convincingly. Then add in some god awful choreography and you get what you got. You could certainly say that it is the director's fault for 1) not getting them that basic training 2) letting that choreography through 3) Not getting the proper camera angles to hide what was really going on. 4) Not editing like crazy to make people seem less hopeless. So yeah, they probably should have gotten close ups to hide the action and done a whole lot of other things better. However, when you're working with terrible ingredients (the acting), even the best chefs struggle to make a palatable dish. Then add some terrible writing in plot and dialog and you've got an unfettered disaster. Dorne has been a disaster and part of episode 8's charm has been a lack of Dorne. Hardholm was awesome. The fight choreography was respectable and the actors seemed to have some competence with the weapons... maybe it was just good editing. The whole thing felt chaotic and magical, yet somehow real. Yes, you can nitpick things, but I'm not here to do that. This last episode was good (action and plot progression) and I'm hoping 9 and 10 can also deliver. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9275 Posts
1:30 in the video below | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 02 2015 20:41 Conti wrote: It's really not the acting that is the issue, it's the cinematography. It's the director's and the cameraman's job to make action sequences look good, and they very much failed with that when it comes to the sand snake scenes. Blame them, not the actors. The biggest issue for the Dornish plot is they put the new guys on it; couple that with only getting a week at the Alcazar (and it raining most of the week), plus historical site considerations, and...yeah. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On June 03 2015 04:42 Lord Tolkien wrote: The biggest issue for the Dornish plot is they put the new guys on it; couple that with only getting a week at the Alcazar (and it raining most of the week), plus historical site considerations, and...yeah. That would certainly explain a lot. Pity, really. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Broetchenholer
Germany1950 Posts
I had a short moment of terror in Hardholm, entertaining the thought of the whitewalker taking Jon down right there to skip the mutiny all together. I'd say that is the only good thing of the writing of this season, that we really don't know anymore how far they are willing to deviate from the books. | ||
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