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acker
United States2958 Posts
On April 14 2014 17:27 Waxangel wrote: that's the point though at that point in the plot, there's supposed to be a totally not cool betrayal From Reddit: what if Bronn was paid-off by Cersei to claim Shae had safely made it onto a ship? | ||
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 14 2014 17:53 Bash wrote: You know when I first read the Purple Wedding chapter I remember being really bored with it and half-skimming along until the climax came out of the blue and being a bit confused. I feel like a lot of people would have similar feelings watching it play out in the adaptation since it feels kind of like a disjointed collection of conversations and stuff happening until the very end. I guess that was really what GRRM wanted it to be like since he wrote it like that twice in two different versions, though perhaps "boring" is not what he would call it. It's effective I suppose. yes, and im so glad they dindt hover the camera over Sansa's necklace. literally nobody would have noticed what happened, unless they were specifically looking for it. I was and still missed it at first. One thing i dislike is that they didnt implicate the red Viper, by planting rumours about his poisonings in Dorne. There' still time i guess Great episode, way better with the dwarf-jugglers, less humiliating, more relevant, serves the same purpose. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
Also hated that they didn't include Mr. Payne training Jamie. "Hmm... we need someone who wont talk..." me: *heh, I wonder who it's gonna be... heh heh* WTF BRONN?! Loved the Hound + Arya duo though. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
The wedding, Oberyn, Bronn+Jaime, Weirwood.net Things I didn't like: Shae (pls just die already), Stannis, Stannis wouldn't burn people for worshiping the wrong gods, Davos still worships the Seven ffs. As long as they bend the knee he would be ok with it. Stannis stopped caring for gods after he watched his mother & father die in Shipbreaker Bay. I can kinda see where they're going with Oberyn+Loras but there is supposed to be emnity from Tyrell side. I was hoping Jaime would suggest Loras to join the Kingsguard too, shame. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:23 Chrispy wrote: Yeah I guess Bronn betrays Tyrion and... Tywin ends up raping/killing Shae? Which then of course sends Tyrion into rage made and he kills the shit outta Daddy. Because I cannot see Shae betraying Tyrion or Tyrion killing Shae. Not gonna happen. Why not? He told her off pretty roughly this episode. Then he will spend a long time in Black Cells wrongfully accused, feeling betrayed by his Father. Then if they do it like in the book Jamie will tell him the truth about Tysha and then he will find Shae with his Father. By that part he is inraged and out of control. Especially if she also testifies against him at the trial. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:27 Doctorbeat wrote: I can kinda see where they're going with Oberyn+Loras but there is supposed to be emnity from Tyrell side. I was hoping Jaime would suggest Loras to join the Kingsguard too, shame. I was thinking about that as well. My guess would be that Loras will just go off to siege Dragonstone in the show to avoid getting married. On April 14 2014 18:36 Kipsate wrote: Reek it rhymes with weak T.T I could not believe they didn't put this in Reek scenes. Reek scenes are the biggest letdown for me since this TV show started.. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:37 -Archangel- wrote: Why not? He told her off pretty roughly this episode. Then he will spend a long time in Black Cells wrongfully accused, feeling betrayed by his Father. Then if they do it like in the book Jamie will tell him the truth about Tysha and then he will find Shae with his Father. By that part he is inraged and out of control. Especially if she also testifies against him at the trial. Hm.. I guess if she testifies against him in the trial then yeah, all bets are off. But I dunno... it seemed to me like everything they've done with Shae in the TV series was to show that she actually loves Tyrion and isn't just some greedy whore like she is in the books. Doesn't feel like she would testify against Tyrion or sleep with Tywin. ALSO, are we now @ 3 actors from Rome? Mance/Caeser That Wimpy Uncle/Brutus That Dornish Lady/The main guy's wife | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On April 14 2014 15:02 Falling wrote: Yeah, I never found any of the Lannister's sympathetic in the books, least of all Cersei. Even Tyrion? | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:38 -Archangel- wrote: I was thinking about that as well. My guess would be that Loras will just go off to siege Dragonstone in the show to avoid getting married. I could not believe they didn't put this in Reek scenes. Reek scenes are the biggest letdown for me since this TV show started.. Reek is a lot more awesome/disturbing in the books so far yeah. Maybe we will see something late. I actually sympathised with Cersei at some points of the book somehow. As for the portrayal of Shay, that has to be one of the more dissapointing characters in the TV series but in the grand scheme of things it hardly matters I feel. Either way I will miss Geofrey, or at the very least the actor, its amazing how he could have made a character which was so evil in the books and take it to the next stage. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:47 Kipsate wrote: Reek is a lot more awesome/disturbing in the books so far yeah. Maybe we will see something late. I actually sympathised with Cersei at some points of the book somehow. Either way I will miss Geofrey, or at the very least the actor, its amazing how he could have made a character which was so evil in the books and take it to the next stage. I agree, even though Theon does put in a great performance, the material he's given is weaker than the books. And Ramsay befriending a girl is too unreal. Especially them bonding over killing people, Ramsay's supposed to be the only one who really relishes in bloodshed. Roose simply doesn't care and just does whatever benefits him most. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:55 Doctorbeat wrote: I agree, even though Theon does put in a great performance, the material he's given is weaker than the books. And Ramsay befriending a girl is too unreal. Especially them bonding over killing people, Ramsay's supposed to be the only one who really relishes in bloodshed. Roose simply doesn't care and just does whatever benefits him most. Still overall Ramsay is more interesting in the TV version. Book Ramsay was really one-dimensional and boring. I actually liked the Bolton part the most of this episode. Overall I thought it was one of the weakest episodes of the show though. A lot of the dialogue at the wedding and the pacing seemed a little off. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 14 2014 18:55 Doctorbeat wrote: I agree, even though Theon does put in a great performance, the material he's given is weaker than the books. And Ramsay befriending a girl is too unreal. Especially them bonding over killing people, Ramsay's supposed to be the only one who really relishes in bloodshed. Roose simply doesn't care and just does whatever benefits him most. I don't agree about this great performance. Maybe it is lack of real Reek lines, but maybe the actor could not portray real Reek well enough so they gave us the watered down version. Oh and there was no boobs this episode which is strange for GoT the TV show :D | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 14 2014 19:18 Kipsate wrote: I think he does an oke job, I just wonder as to why they won't let him mutter to himself a bit more he does in the books which puts more emphasis on how broken he is. this episode was stolen away by the purple wedding, im guessing they re saving his more memorable mumblings to later scenes | ||
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ElanMT
Netherlands87 Posts
On April 14 2014 17:31 GGTeMpLaR wrote: also, no hairnet, but + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AHI83xB.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DFEiWKU.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NcOq94y.jpg) one is missing at the end When she then walks away from Sansa and is in front of the table where Joffrey and Margaery are sitting, you actually hear the sound of something being dropped in a cup. 100% the old lady did it. | ||
dravernor
Netherlands6192 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 14 2014 19:37 ElanMT wrote: When she then walks away from Sansa and is in front of the table where Joffrey and Margaery are sitting, you actually hear the sound of something being dropped in a cup. 100% the old lady did it. Did not notice it, although I knew what was going to happen. That part was done well then. They showed it, but the average viewer would not see it. Just with the help of the interent or if you know what you are looking for you will see it. | ||
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sths
Australia192 Posts
On April 14 2014 17:24 -Archangel- wrote: Well Bron does kind of betray him when he declines to fight for him again. But total betrayal would not be cool, in the book he makes fun of Cersei by naming that kid his wife has Tyrion :D to be fair I wouldn't say Bronn refusing to fight the mountain as betraying Tyrion. It is the mountain after all, not some random knight from the vale. Bronn is good but hes not that good. | ||
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