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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11091 Posts
April 14 2014 04:01 GMT
#8781
Bolton Scene was excellent.

Mixedish feelings about the Bronn scene but it's a smart adaptation.

Argh. I liked the book characterization instead of the golden hearted whore. Can't believe he wrote the episode. The Shae meeting just seems ... off for Tyrion.

Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 14 2014 04:27 GMT
#8782
Shae has been a different character for basically the entire series, so he couldn't really rewrite her at this point. I have never been a fan of the show version, but I still see her betraying Tyrion and not just sailing off across the sea. It really makes no sense that Tyrion would fall in love with TV Shae in the first place. Tyrion knew in his mind that book Shae just loved his money, but at least she was seductive and pleasant towards him 90% of the time when they were together. TV Shae acts like a bitch 90% of the time.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 04:42:29
April 14 2014 04:39 GMT
#8783
On April 14 2014 12:17 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 11:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Two main departures I noticed.

The Bolton/Ramsey scene.

Cersei/Brienne sequence.

Leave it to Cersei to actually be jealous of the ugliest woman in existence. I hate the way she's portrayed in the show. In the books she's way more sympathetic.


lol she must be pretty awful in the show. I don't find her at all sympathetic in the book, except for one or two moments of vulnerability. Assuming you're talking about Cersei not Brienne.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 05:00:08
April 14 2014 04:59 GMT
#8784
On April 14 2014 12:17 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 11:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Two main departures I noticed.

The Bolton/Ramsey scene.

Cersei/Brienne sequence.

Leave it to Cersei to actually be jealous of the ugliest woman in existence. I hate the way she's portrayed in the show. In the books she's way more sympathetic.



really? I feel like the show is more sympathetic towards her than the books tbh.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 14 2014 05:19 GMT
#8785
I wonder how they'll handle Tommen considering how the new actor portraying him is quite a bit older than the previous one. Book Tommen was fun to read because of how adorable he was with his beet ban and his kittens. It'd be hard to do those scenes in the show because he'd just look like a retard.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 05:48:22
April 14 2014 05:44 GMT
#8786
omg that was so satisfying :D

I give it a 9/10. They got the majority of the details from Joffrey's wedding, so it's already a winner. Not having to wait until aDwD to see more of the Boltons and Theon is great too.

Only downer , again, seems to be Shae. To be fair, they haven't really let me down too much with their deviations from the book so far so I don't want to overreact. However, I have to wonder if Tyrion will even be killing Shae now that he gave her a clear justification to stab him in the back. It now seems more like a gigantic misunderstanding instead of an outright betrayal by someone we should have known to be disloyal from the start.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11592 Posts
April 14 2014 06:02 GMT
#8787
On April 14 2014 13:39 Mothra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 12:17 Hyperbola wrote:
On April 14 2014 11:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Two main departures I noticed.

The Bolton/Ramsey scene.

Cersei/Brienne sequence.

Leave it to Cersei to actually be jealous of the ugliest woman in existence. I hate the way she's portrayed in the show. In the books she's way more sympathetic.


lol she must be pretty awful in the show. I don't find her at all sympathetic in the book, except for one or two moments of vulnerability. Assuming you're talking about Cersei not Brienne.

Yeah, I never found any of the Lannister's sympathetic in the books, least of all Cersei.
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 06:19:11
April 14 2014 06:18 GMT
#8788
On April 14 2014 13:01 Sabu113 wrote:
Argh. I liked the book characterization instead of the golden hearted whore. Can't believe he wrote the episode. The Shae meeting just seems ... off for Tyrion.

I think it's just as much for the book readers as the film watchers. Can't predict if Shae will betray Tyrion in the trial for the show, or if Shae will take part most of Tysha's place for show plot ("wherever whores go").

Hell, maybe Tywin rapes and strangles Shae himself, I can see it happening.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 14 2014 06:26 GMT
#8789
The episode was good, except for Reek. Reek was terrible and active was even worse. I didn't get a single vibe of Reek from the book. He just shook his head for a bit when in the woods... no Reek rimes with .... or not wanting to think like Theon, when they asked him about Winterfell he immediately answered as Theon. He didn't look different and they sure didn't show anything missing on his hands... but acting was just terrible.
Also no Penny during the dwarf duel
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 14 2014 06:45 GMT
#8790
I actually liked the Theon/Reek scene. Hell, the entire Bolton/Dreadfort scene was great. Oberyn providing comic relief and serious tension was fantastic.

And of course, going to miss Jack as Joff. Goddam I never scorned and hated a character this much. Also, looks liek Tommen got way taller/older now.

Not sure exactly where they are going with the Shae bit though.
Forever Young
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
April 14 2014 07:00 GMT
#8791
A white walker standing in an area with architecture involving clean, straight features while also looking into a crystalline object. A big dragon over KL.

I got nothing, and neither seems like big news, but it's one of our rare hints from the show at things we don't know from the books yet.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
April 14 2014 07:26 GMT
#8792
A great prediction from a guy who has posted in this thread before:

On April 14 2014 14:11 kidleaderr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 14:02 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On April 14 2014 13:55 blade55555 wrote:
On April 14 2014 13:52 Zooper31 wrote:
Holy crap, holy crap, holy crap, holy crap.

I was spoilered to Joffrey dying so I knew this was eventually going to come, but near the fucking end of the season. Not the god damn second episode, during the fucking wedding. I mean theres no way for Tyrion to be blamed for his death. Who knew he was going to be forced to be cup bearer and give him the cup that poisons him, it was Margery's cup anyway he grabbed at I believe.

It's gotta be the grandma, Sansa (she finally got some gump), Tywin, or Cersei who did it.



So I doubt it was cersei as he was her son and she still loves him even though he's a dick.

I think it might be the grandma or that one dude (the new gay/bisexual guy who said the lanisters aren't the only ones who pay their debts).

I doubt sansa no way in hell she'd have the guts for that and I don't see how she could have either xD.


Yeah, no way it was Cersei, she's not that good at acting ;p If it was Sansa that would go against everything. I feel like it has to be someone who was up close, and there were a lot of shots of the Grandma. She seems very devious too.

It could be Tywin, but I think Tywin has a lot of family pride, even though they are a bunch of idiots a lot of the time. I mean I dunno, maybe Tywin thinks it'll be easier to rule with the other son because he will be more relaxed? Maybe he doesn't trust the Tyrell's. Going to be a good next episode!


Re-watch the scene when Lady Olenna talks to Sansa. It looks like she grabs something off her necklace.

Edit: Just watched it again and there is clearly a pearl of some sort missing at the end of it.

-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 08:01:11
April 14 2014 08:01 GMT
#8793
On April 14 2014 16:26 hzflank wrote:
A great prediction from a guy who has posted in this thread before:

Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 14:11 kidleaderr wrote:
On April 14 2014 14:02 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On April 14 2014 13:55 blade55555 wrote:
On April 14 2014 13:52 Zooper31 wrote:
Holy crap, holy crap, holy crap, holy crap.

I was spoilered to Joffrey dying so I knew this was eventually going to come, but near the fucking end of the season. Not the god damn second episode, during the fucking wedding. I mean theres no way for Tyrion to be blamed for his death. Who knew he was going to be forced to be cup bearer and give him the cup that poisons him, it was Margery's cup anyway he grabbed at I believe.

It's gotta be the grandma, Sansa (she finally got some gump), Tywin, or Cersei who did it.



So I doubt it was cersei as he was her son and she still loves him even though he's a dick.

I think it might be the grandma or that one dude (the new gay/bisexual guy who said the lanisters aren't the only ones who pay their debts).

I doubt sansa no way in hell she'd have the guts for that and I don't see how she could have either xD.


Yeah, no way it was Cersei, she's not that good at acting ;p If it was Sansa that would go against everything. I feel like it has to be someone who was up close, and there were a lot of shots of the Grandma. She seems very devious too.

It could be Tywin, but I think Tywin has a lot of family pride, even though they are a bunch of idiots a lot of the time. I mean I dunno, maybe Tywin thinks it'll be easier to rule with the other son because he will be more relaxed? Maybe he doesn't trust the Tyrell's. Going to be a good next episode!


Re-watch the scene when Lady Olenna talks to Sansa. It looks like she grabs something off her necklace.

Edit: Just watched it again and there is clearly a pearl of some sort missing at the end of it.


Well it was only a matter of time a non-reader would notice that and spread it around the internet. They did clearly show it in the episode.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 14 2014 08:05 GMT
#8794
BTW, they didn't tell the viewers who sent the assassin against Bran. It was told in the books by now...
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
April 14 2014 08:10 GMT
#8795
On April 14 2014 14:19 LoLAdriankat wrote:
I wonder how they'll handle Tommen considering how the new actor portraying him is quite a bit older than the previous one. Book Tommen was fun to read because of how adorable he was with his beet ban and his kittens. It'd be hard to do those scenes in the show because he'd just look like a retard.

[image loading]

Iunno, he looks young enough to still play with kittens I think.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33671 Posts
April 14 2014 08:22 GMT
#8796
I been thinking that considering the characterizations so far, changing the TV series so bronn betrays tyrion could be better than having shae betray him
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 08:24:14
April 14 2014 08:24 GMT
#8797
On April 14 2014 17:22 Waxangel wrote:
I been thinking that considering the characterizations so far, changing the TV series so bronn betrays tyrion could be better than having shae betray him

Well Bron does kind of betray him when he declines to fight for him again.
But total betrayal would not be cool, in the book he makes fun of Cersei by naming that kid his wife has Tyrion :D
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 14 2014 08:24 GMT
#8798
Stannis a boss as usual.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33671 Posts
April 14 2014 08:27 GMT
#8799
On April 14 2014 17:24 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 17:22 Waxangel wrote:
I been thinking that considering the characterizations so far, changing the TV series so bronn betrays tyrion could be better than having shae betray him

Well Bron does kind of betray him when he declines to fight for him again.
But total betrayal would not be cool, in the book he makes fun of Cersei by naming that kid his wife has Tyrion :D


that's the point though

at that point in the plot, there's supposed to be a totally not cool betrayal
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 14 2014 08:31 GMT
#8800
also, no hairnet, but

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one is missing at the end
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