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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
They have shown Shae to be building up quite a lot of frustration against Tyrion. I wouldn't be so sure that they will depart from the betrayal. I also can't help but think that one of the few purposes for that golden chain gift scene was to set that up as the stand-in for the hand of the king chain. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 14 2014 05:43 Irrelevant Label wrote: She was mentioned by name, wasn't she? I don't think it matters if she was though. They have shown Shae to be building up quite a lot of frustration against Tyrion. I wouldn't be so sure that they will depart from the betrayal. I also can't help but think that one of the few purposes for that golden chain gift scene was to set that up as the stand-in for the hand of the king chain. That's entirely possible. I would be quite disappointed by that, though. I mean, Shae would go from being jealous and annoyed at Tyrion to literally dooming him to his death. That's quite the leap, and I don't see how they could pull that one off in any believable way. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
What gold chain scene? I don't remember that. Ros was the one who received a gold chain from Tyrion, no? Did Shae receive one too? I forget. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 14 2014 05:15 Conti wrote: I made this prediction last season, actually. I still consider it possible that Shae will remain loyal to Tyrion, will be forced to testify against him, and then Tywin or Cersei will have Shae executed (possibly with Tyrion watching), thus making him just as bitter and depressed as in the books. It's easily possible to get the "wherever whores go" line in there somewhere to refer to Shae instead, though they might as well just skip it. Edit: Come to think of it, it would probably be Tywin who has Shae killed. Gives Tyrion the motivation to put a bolt through the old bastard's gut. Tysha was actually mentioned in the show, but not by name. Tyrion told the story (or parts of it) in the first season to Shae and Bronn. But I don't think they have mentioned it since. Yeah made the same prediction last season. :D And I would actually like that. It would make Tyrions killing his father way more understandable for the viewer. Tysha as the sole reason would not really work. Although the Tysha story was mentioned, almost no viewer will remember that. And they dont have all the Tyrion inner monologue like in the book where he thinks about her, so it would not be comprehensible for viewers imo. So I always thought this was the reason they made TV Shae so different from book Shae. But then again last episode made things look different again, with the rift between Shae and Tryion they showed. I really dont know what they will do, but this makes watching as someone who has read the books more exciting.  | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
And they dont have all the Tyrion inner monologue like in the book where he thinks about her, so it would not be comprehensible for viewers imo. So I always thought this was the reason they made TV Shae so different from book Shae. The loss of that inner monologue is the game changer. If the red wedding, the precise politics of Ned's downfall, and maybe even the Dany/Drogo relationship are enough indication, it is their MO to compensate for the reduced exposition in a TV show by making things either more shocking or otherwise do things to make a "stronger" blunt impression. It is a trade off that seems clumsy to me, but maybe it is the best or only way to do it. The Shae who appears to actually love him and then turns on him fits that pattern. There is plenty of reason to the betrayal-less model too. That also fits the pattern, but with the focus on Tyrion's relationship with Tywin rather than Shae. I think it can go either way, and we'll probably know within the next couple episodes. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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c0ldfusion
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c0ldfusion
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c0ldfusion
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c0ldfusion
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On April 14 2014 10:54 SpiZe wrote: I'm waiting for the reactions guys, hope it's gonna be good Didn't even take a minute for people to start 'guessing' who's behind it!!! lol | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On April 14 2014 10:57 Gentso wrote: Didn't even take a minute for people to start 'guessing' who's behind it!!! lol To be fair, they've been setting up Olenna as the only reasonable culprit the whole time. It was a little heavy-handed. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
The Bolton/Ramsey scene. Cersei/Brienne sequence. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On April 14 2014 11:33 Vindicare605 wrote: Two main departures I noticed. The Bolton/Ramsey scene. Cersei/Brienne sequence. Leave it to Cersei to actually be jealous of the ugliest woman in existence. I hate the way she's portrayed in the show. In the books she's way more sympathetic. | ||
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
Disappointed by the Shae/Tyrion relationship development. But it was clear the path they were going with that a long time ago... All in all decent episode. | ||
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