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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
June 24 2011 14:04 GMT
#661
My wife has been listening to the audiobooks for this series. Last night she got to the red wedding, and watching the look of confusion and disbelief slowly work its way onto her face as she realized what was happening was just priceless. Her first words as the bannermen starting being killed were "this isn't good..."

She took it pretty well, considering.
MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
June 24 2011 14:40 GMT
#662
On June 24 2011 04:08 Acid~ wrote:
Wait, does Margaery even have a speaking part in Clash of Kings ?

Nah she just sits there, but in season 2 she will def talk because otherwise people would be like "who the hell is that, Ann Boleyn?"
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 14:50:18
June 24 2011 14:49 GMT
#663

Nah she just sits there, but in season 2 she will def talk because otherwise people would be like "who the hell is that, Ann Boleyn?"


Funny you should say that. http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/06/natalie-dormer-to-play-margaery-tyrell/

Frankly, I was expecting someone younger (about Sansa/Robb age)- picturing her and Tommen, or even Joffrey for that matter, is a little icky.
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
June 24 2011 15:27 GMT
#664
On June 24 2011 23:49 ellerina wrote:
Show nested quote +

Nah she just sits there, but in season 2 she will def talk because otherwise people would be like "who the hell is that, Ann Boleyn?"


Funny you should say that. http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/06/natalie-dormer-to-play-margaery-tyrell/

Frankly, I was expecting someone younger (about Sansa/Robb age)- picturing her and Tommen, or even Joffrey for that matter, is a little icky.


Well, they never get to bang her anyway.

I think the actress is fine, I'm just confused that they cast her now, when they don't even have a Melisandre, Brienne, or even Asha yet.
maJes
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom186 Posts
June 24 2011 15:29 GMT
#665
Christina Hendricks for Melisandre would be pretty freaking sweet.
BE'YENNEH......YAOWRL.....
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
June 24 2011 15:40 GMT
#666
Melisndre isn't fat and she's exotic.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Cylon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States124 Posts
June 24 2011 15:41 GMT
#667
Christina Hendricks isn't fat...
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
June 24 2011 16:02 GMT
#668
On June 25 2011 00:27 Acid~ wrote:
Well, they never get to bang her anyway.

I think the actress is fine, I'm just confused that they cast her now, when they don't even have a Melisandre, Brienne, or even Asha yet.


True. I was also thinking it would be ok since Renly was her original husband, and her age would only make the marriages to Joffrey and Tomnen even more striking. According to GRRM's blog, they have already submitted candidates and are waiting for the approval of the powers that be at HBO. Some auditions of relative unknowns have leaked online. Aside from the characters you mention, I'm also looking forward to Davos and Stannis.
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
June 24 2011 16:03 GMT
#669
On June 24 2011 23:49 ellerina wrote:
Show nested quote +

Nah she just sits there, but in season 2 she will def talk because otherwise people would be like "who the hell is that, Ann Boleyn?"


Funny you should say that. http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/06/natalie-dormer-to-play-margaery-tyrell/

Frankly, I was expecting someone younger (about Sansa/Robb age)- picturing her and Tommen, or even Joffrey for that matter, is a little icky.


Isn't that kind of the point? Tommen and Margaery never have sex and their relation is more that off a big sister and a little brother. If memory serves me right they are said to sleep in the same bed several times a week but there is nothing remotely sexual about it.

Tommen isn't just young, Joffrey was also young, Tommen is a real child. He plays with animals and his favorite part of being king was stamping stuff with the royal stamp.


Cersei at times even reflects how she kind of dislikes Tommen because of how childish he is where as she viewed Joffrey as a true king, someone who goes his own way.


The fact that they are married is just realism. It happened in the middle ages aswell. Personally i kind of wonder where the character of Tommen will go during the story. Kind characters do exist in the world of GRRM but at the same time characters that are too nice tend to get taken advantage of.
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
June 24 2011 16:32 GMT
#670
I guess I was just surprised since Margaery is described as being younger than Loras in the books. Eh, it's fine with me if they age her up or expand her role. Not too familiar with Natalie Dormer as an actress since I didn't watch the Tudors, but people seem to like her.

According to the Cersei childhood prophecy, all of her children will die before her, so he might die before the series ends. Then again, GRRM can just say the the prophecy was not true or something, making Cersei's paranoia all for nothing. Personally, I hope he survives.
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
June 24 2011 17:01 GMT
#671
On June 25 2011 00:41 Cylon wrote:
Christina Hendricks isn't fat...

Have you seen any recent photos of her? She's not obese, but she certainly isn't in shape either.
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
June 24 2011 18:26 GMT
#672
On June 25 2011 02:01 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 00:41 Cylon wrote:
Christina Hendricks isn't fat...

Have you seen any recent photos of her? She's not obese, but she certainly isn't in shape either.


You're either a troll or have no idea what a woman's body actually looks like...
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14896 Posts
June 24 2011 19:22 GMT
#673
She's not skinny, she's curvy. Nothing wrong with that
Pkol
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia176 Posts
June 26 2011 03:53 GMT
#674
Just finished book 2, I raged hard for a while when I thought Bran and Rickon were dead. Dammit GRRM, trolling me like that. Onto book 3!
lolwut?
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
June 26 2011 07:29 GMT
#675
In regards to Tommen, I'm hoping as he gets older (after the 5 year gap between book 5 and 6) he learns how much his family had been taking advantage of him, and forms good relationships with people who aren't just going to shit on him.

But, this is GRRM we're talking about, so he'll probably just grow up to be worse than Joff.
On my way...
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
June 26 2011 07:36 GMT
#676
On June 25 2011 01:32 ellerina wrote:
I guess I was just surprised since Margaery is described as being younger than Loras in the books. Eh, it's fine with me if they age her up or expand her role. Not too familiar with Natalie Dormer as an actress since I didn't watch the Tudors, but people seem to like her.

According to the Cersei childhood prophecy, all of her children will die before her, so he might die before the series ends. Then again, GRRM can just say the the prophecy was not true or something, making Cersei's paranoia all for nothing. Personally, I hope he survives.


I always felt that prophecy was kind of way too easy to see through. It talks about her little brother being the cause of her downfall or killing her or something along those lines.

Ofcourse since she hates Tyrion and he's a dwarf and her little brother she thinks he is the one in the prophecy. The first time i read that i allready thought that the 'twist' would be that the prophecy refers to Jaime who is also her little brother since Cersei was born first.


Personally i do think the prophecy will be fullfilled. Let's be honest everything up to this point has been spot on.

She predicted one of the friends of Cersei would die the same day, wich she did.

She predicted Cersei will be queen but also that a younger more beautifull queen would take it all away from her. She thinks it's Maergery, personally i think they mean Danny.

She predicted how many children she would have and how many Robert would have.

She predicted all of her children would be crowned and all of them would die within Cersei's lifetime. Joffrey was crowned and died. Tommen has been crowned but has yet to die. Myrcella might be crowned in Dorne but has also yet to die.


Would be strange if the prophecy got so many things right and then suddenly it's all just a matter of coincidence. My guess remains that it will be spot on, all her children will die and then Jaime will kill her for whatever reason that might end up being.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 26 2011 08:54 GMT
#677
On June 25 2011 00:29 maJes wrote:
Christina Hendricks for Melisandre would be pretty freaking sweet.

And she would be pretty freaking expensive. No thanks.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 09:28:46
June 26 2011 09:22 GMT
#678
I'm reading the 4th book now, and im about 60%, and it is so bad! Like, seriously, i canot imagine why Martin thought he can write it like this.
The whole song of ice and fire is being played on 3 storylines. The main storyline doesnt have a main caracter, since everyone who looks as if could become the central figure dies or something (Eddard, Robb dies, Tyrion flees), the other two having clearly Dany and Jon as the main figure.

Let's remember how book 3 ends, and what exciting storylines does it open:
1: Jon becomes Lord Commander! Yeay! White walkers and stuff, Yeay!
2. Danny seems to establish an army of sellswords and freed slaves, her dragons are growing, ser Jorah is proving problematic, potential awesome twists... Yeay!
3. Tyrion founds himself in a completly new and unexpected situation. Hmm, wasnt happy about it, but exciting nontheless.
4. Littlefinger with Sansa are at the Eyrie and kill Lysa, so he ll have to deal with the lords of the Vale. Yeay!
5. The Dornish lose their prince Oberyn, the Mountain confesses his crimes, there's talk about naming Myrcella as Queen at Sunspear. Yeay!
6. The irnomen are going back, because there is a power vaacum. Well w/e, kinda interesting i guess.
7. Tywin dies, leaving another power vaacum, which could be filled in somwehat by someone like Cersei, Mace Tyrell, Kevan Lannister or potentially someone new. Interesting!
8. Arya sets sail to Braavos, potentially awesome assasin-training incoming. Yeay!
9. Stannis and his companion Davos, and Melissandre. Their quest to raise the North for their cause.
10. Brienne... Who?

At least the first 300 pages of the book moves the story forward exactly by 0. There is talk about the Dornish and their vengance plotting, thinking about naming Myrcella queen, just as it was told in book 3.
Talking about the ironmen going home and struggling to find the new king, as it was told in book 3.
Littlefinger and Sansa getting ready to talk to the lords of the Vale, as it was obvious they have to after the end of book 3.
Jon sands Sam south.
Something with Brienne....

Like seriously?? What the fck?!? Ok, reading a bit forward these issues kinda get resolved at least, but not for the better, obviously... Let's see, with our list, enumarated up here.

1. No Jon chapters, the only chapter with Sam on the Wall is when he leaves it. Duh

2. No Danny chapters, barely any mention of her. DUh

3. NO TYRION CHAPTER FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!

4. Yeah, Littlefinger asks for a year as Lord Protector, he gets it, fuck yeah. Whatever

5. This storyline looks intersting, but it turns out Doren or what the fck that cripple is called locks up the Sand Snakes and puts a short end to his daughter plans. Duh

6. The Ironmen actually chose the exiled prince (wtf) as their new king, who promises Westeros. At least someone still has balls in this fcking series. No word of Theon, still not sure if he died, but w/e, Euron wants to send Victarion to Slaver's bay to find Danny. At least this is potentially exciting. Though i expect the Iron fleet to sink in a storm, the way things were going.

7. Ok, so this is the main story line at first glance. let's see what happens. Mace wants to be Hand of the King, gets refused, leaves King's Landing, Kevan would accept the position, but Cersei doesnt accept his terms, so he leaves King's Landing too. Jaime is sent out to Riverrun (leaves King's landing), Loras goes to Dragonstone (leaves Kings landing). Varys and Littlefinger already left King's Landing. So we have Cersei at King's landing who clearly got some drinking problems, a bunch of kids and an incompetent sorry bunch of losers called the Small Council of the King. The Tyrells are, or should be the only close allies of the Crown, yet Cersei does not miss an opportunity to spit in their faces. I dont understand, a Queen Regent who does not even have the full support of her own house, and treats her closest ally as her worst enemy, makes horrible and potentially dangerous decisions, while half of the realm is still in war, stands victorious and proud, nobody seems to push her aside. I loved this series, because the game of thrones was realistic. If someone wasnt strong enough, clever enough or didnt have the necessary support, just died. Even the lack of one of the 3 was enough to be out of the game. Cersei has neiher of the 3 right now, yet sits uncontested. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GARBAGE? I really hope she gets put aside, though how things are going now... not likely...

8. Arya, my dear Arya finally getting some potentially awesome role. Well, not so fast kiddo, we have 1 Arya chapter in 300 pages, and i think i've read 3 in total in 2/3 of the book. WTF?
9. No word of Stannis and Mellisandre, it is said Davos got beheaded in a northen castle. NO Daavos chapter either, so i cant be sure, but i wouldnt be surprised if he just killed another cool male caracter in one sentence. FUU

10. Brienne... Like seriously, if there were 3 Arya chapters there must have been 10000 Brienne chapters in which precisely nothing noteworthy happened. FUU

sorry, i didnt plan to write this long, happens
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
June 26 2011 09:40 GMT
#679
A Feast for Crows specifically focuses on events in the South and around King's Landing. Feast for Crows and the next book, Dance with Dragons, were initially planned to be released as one book for a while, but Martin eventually decided to split them.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia727 Posts
June 26 2011 09:47 GMT
#680
Wishlist for the casting of S2:
Malisandre - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1260407/ Felicia Day
(think she's got right price/hottnes ratio and is into fantasy and likely read the series)

Stannis - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0384060/ Bernard Hill
Whit some hair dye he could kick ass as Stannis
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
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