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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
June 26 2011 15:56 GMT
#701
On June 26 2011 23:27 Damian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 23:25 Doppelganger wrote:
Mark strong looks like the Stannis I imagined. I would be thrilled to see him in this role. I further think that Viggo Mortensen is not a good fit for Stannis. I think he could pull it off but I just don#t see him there.

Viggo would be decent as Davos, wouldn't he?

I think he would fit that role WAY better then the role of Stannis. But that would be too much lotr for this series I guess XD
but we can still hope for it ^^
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
June 26 2011 16:06 GMT
#702
On June 26 2011 23:24 snotboogie wrote:
I've always pictured Melinda Clarke as Melisandre:

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+ Show Spoiler +

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She's age-appropriate, and has that powerful look. She'd also be affordable.




Definitely agree, she is excactly how i pictured her!!!!
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
June 26 2011 22:40 GMT
#703
On June 26 2011 21:12 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 03:26 Acid~ wrote:
On June 25 2011 02:01 Sm3agol wrote:
On June 25 2011 00:41 Cylon wrote:
Christina Hendricks isn't fat...

Have you seen any recent photos of her? She's not obese, but she certainly isn't in shape either.


You're either a troll or have no idea what a woman's body actually looks like...

Saying this guy has never seen a woman's body is a reasonable comment? Hendricks is not remotely fit. She has a body of laziness. I don't believe Martin ever says whether Melisandre is fit or voluptuous but I imagine Stannis would not be partial to a voluptuous woman and I don't view Melisandre's personality as compatible with a soft and weak body.


Yeah, it's pretty reasonable. Real people don't look like photoshopped magazine covers.

And calling someone lazy and weak because they don't starve themselves, how is that reasonable ?

Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
June 27 2011 00:27 GMT
#704
I think they should change Joffrey to:

[image loading]

Sorry I could not resist

originally from here: http://www.gameofthronesofmuppets.com/Game_of_Thrones_of_Muppets__You_Wink_or_You_Die/Home.html
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
June 27 2011 01:22 GMT
#705
On June 27 2011 07:40 Acid~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 21:12 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On June 25 2011 03:26 Acid~ wrote:
On June 25 2011 02:01 Sm3agol wrote:
On June 25 2011 00:41 Cylon wrote:
Christina Hendricks isn't fat...

Have you seen any recent photos of her? She's not obese, but she certainly isn't in shape either.


You're either a troll or have no idea what a woman's body actually looks like...

Saying this guy has never seen a woman's body is a reasonable comment? Hendricks is not remotely fit. She has a body of laziness. I don't believe Martin ever says whether Melisandre is fit or voluptuous but I imagine Stannis would not be partial to a voluptuous woman and I don't view Melisandre's personality as compatible with a soft and weak body.


Yeah, it's pretty reasonable. Real people don't look like photoshopped magazine covers.

And calling someone lazy and weak because they don't starve themselves, how is that reasonable ?


What are you talking about photoshopped magazine covers for? I talk about fit women, like athletes, who actually eat more food than someone like Hendricks, but have lower body fat percentage and toned muscles from exercise. If Hendricks has some disciplined exercise routine, I certainly can't tell by her body. Being weak and lazy is about how much exercise a person does, not the amount of food a person eats. You have some really bizarre notions. Anyway, like I said, I don't think Stannis could respect a voluptuous woman like Hendricks the way he respects Melisandre.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
June 27 2011 01:37 GMT
#706
Melisandre has been described as being fit and attractive, except for that one scene where she is pregnant with the shadow. I think its pretty obvious shes fit to a certain extent, and any actress that has a decent body would be fine. Besides, lore wise there are a lot more important things about melisandre than her abs and legs.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 01:49:14
June 27 2011 01:48 GMT
#707
On June 27 2011 10:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 07:40 Acid~ wrote:
On June 26 2011 21:12 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On June 25 2011 03:26 Acid~ wrote:
On June 25 2011 02:01 Sm3agol wrote:
On June 25 2011 00:41 Cylon wrote:
Christina Hendricks isn't fat...

Have you seen any recent photos of her? She's not obese, but she certainly isn't in shape either.


You're either a troll or have no idea what a woman's body actually looks like...

Saying this guy has never seen a woman's body is a reasonable comment? Hendricks is not remotely fit. She has a body of laziness. I don't believe Martin ever says whether Melisandre is fit or voluptuous but I imagine Stannis would not be partial to a voluptuous woman and I don't view Melisandre's personality as compatible with a soft and weak body.


Yeah, it's pretty reasonable. Real people don't look like photoshopped magazine covers.

And calling someone lazy and weak because they don't starve themselves, how is that reasonable ?


What are you talking about photoshopped magazine covers for? I talk about fit women, like athletes, who actually eat more food than someone like Hendricks, but have lower body fat percentage and toned muscles from exercise. If Hendricks has some disciplined exercise routine, I certainly can't tell by her body. Being weak and lazy is about how much exercise a person does, not the amount of food a person eats. You have some really bizarre notions. Anyway, like I said, I don't think Stannis could respect a voluptuous woman like Hendricks the way he respects Melisandre.


As we saw from Brienne, being strong or fit doesn't get you respect. Melisandre isn't exactly charging into battles either, she's basically a mage and an advisor. I honestly don't think she really needs to be strong physically.
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
June 27 2011 02:06 GMT
#708
Man, this conversation is really starting to feel like the dragon vs. wyvern one.

Though, I must admit, I get the general impression that Melisandre is slender from the books.
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
June 27 2011 02:11 GMT
#709
On June 27 2011 09:27 Doppelganger wrote:http://www.gameofthronesofmuppets.com/Game_of_Thrones_of_Muppets__You_Wink_or_You_Die/Home.html


HAHAHA this is amazing. Everyone check this out right now. I will never look at Beaker and Dr Honeydew the same way again.
odder
Profile Joined April 2010
United States405 Posts
June 27 2011 03:40 GMT
#710
I read the books late, but I pictured Melisandre like Jean Gray a bit in my head.

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I could see Ruth Wilson playing the part, she is really good in Luther.

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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 27 2011 08:41 GMT
#711
strange, i ve never pictured Melissandre as hot. Im a 100% sure that she ll be smoking hot in the series but the descriptions gave me the feeling she's tall and has oversized breasts, and big overall.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
June 27 2011 09:52 GMT
#712
On June 27 2011 17:41 Geo.Rion wrote:
strange, i ve never pictured Melissandre as hot. Im a 100% sure that she ll be smoking hot in the series but the descriptions gave me the feeling she's tall and has oversized breasts, and big overall.


The books do describe her as "full" and other words for "fat, but not off-putting fat". Not that there anything like that in the modern world where skinier is always better. The book Melisander however is definitly not skinny or normal, she is fatter then average but not obese.

But if they followed the book description of the characters then every male would either be bald or balding. GRRM must have some bald complex given how many of his characters have no hair or starting to lose their hair.
Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
June 27 2011 09:57 GMT
#713
so i just got a mail from amazon.de

+ Show Spoiler +

Guten Tag,

Mittlerweile gibt es ein neues Erscheinungsdatum zu Ihrer Bestellung (Bestellnummer #xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) . Daher wird die unten aufgeführte Ware früher als erwartet an Sie versandt:

George R.R. Martin "A Dance with Dragons: A Song of Ice and Fire: Book Five"
Bisheriges voraussichtliches Lieferdatum : 16 Juli 2011
Neues voraussichtliches Lieferdatum : 29 Juni 2011


Yeah, german, but you may notice two important dates:

Bisheriges voraussichtliches Lieferdatum : 16 Juli 2011/ = expected delivery date: july 16th
Neues voraussichtliches Lieferdatum : 29 Juni 2011/ = new expected delivery date: june 29th

BEST DAY EVER?!

"Eyo lesson' here, Bey. You're comin' at the king, you best not miss."
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 10:13:41
June 27 2011 10:13 GMT
#714
On June 26 2011 20:30 KwarK wrote:
Geo.Rion, read to the end to discover the purpose for all the Cersei chapters.

I've already read the book but can you spoil me (in spoiler) what is the purpose of all Cersei's chapters in your point of view ?
Because I see none for the whole plot except + Show Spoiler +
the slow downfall of a biatch ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18194 Posts
June 27 2011 10:38 GMT
#715
I pictured Melisandre as a voluptuous powerful woman. None of the actresses mentioned thus far have convinced me except Christina Hendriks. Joan from Mad Men would be an excellent cast for her. Another casting speculation from
http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/02/casting-season-two-melisandre/

is Monica Belucci. I really doubt that GoT's budget can pay her, but it's definitely interesting. I think she'd make a great Melisandre.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 10:40:45
June 27 2011 10:39 GMT
#716
On June 27 2011 19:13 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 20:30 KwarK wrote:
Geo.Rion, read to the end to discover the purpose for all the Cersei chapters.

I've already read the book but can you spoil me (in spoiler) what is the purpose of all Cersei's chapters in your point of view ?
Because I see none for the whole plot except + Show Spoiler +
the slow downfall of a biatch ?

I see no point for Spoiler tags. You don't think the waxing might of the church in general and the sparrows in particular is important to the plot?! Nor the creation of a frankenstein-like champion? It also develops Qyburn who seems despicable enough to go on to great evils.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 16:08:34
June 27 2011 16:08 GMT
#717
So since aDwD is only a little over 2 weeks away wanted to make a poll who is most likely going to get killed off in this book

Poll: Who will die in aDwD

Cersei Lannister (8)
 
32%

Stannis Baratheon (8)
 
32%

LittleFinger aka Petyr Baelish (2)
 
8%

Jon Snow (2)
 
8%

Catelyn Stark (again) (2)
 
8%

Tyrion Lannister (1)
 
4%

Jaime Lannister (1)
 
4%

Sansa Stark (1)
 
4%

Arya Stark (0)
 
0%

Bran Stark (0)
 
0%

25 total votes

Your vote: Who will die in aDwD

(Vote): LittleFinger aka Petyr Baelish
(Vote): Tyrion Lannister
(Vote): Jaime Lannister
(Vote): Cersei Lannister
(Vote): Jon Snow
(Vote): Arya Stark
(Vote): Sansa Stark
(Vote): Bran Stark
(Vote): Catelyn Stark (again)
(Vote): Stannis Baratheon

I am Godzilla You are Japan
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 16:50:19
June 27 2011 16:49 GMT
#718
^ only one of those? half of them is likely to die imo
jk too many women in there
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
June 27 2011 16:58 GMT
#719
On June 28 2011 01:49 Geo.Rion wrote:
^ only one of those? half of them is likely to die imo
jk too many women in there


Stannis seems like the obvious choice, Though I wanted to make a list of people who when they die you will have to reread the paragraph/page like 5-6 times thinking how/why WTF Martin!!! I think one of the stark children dying would do that for me. They have had it rough since red wedding.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 18:23:36
June 27 2011 17:13 GMT
#720
On June 27 2011 07:40 Acid~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 21:12 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On June 25 2011 03:26 Acid~ wrote:
On June 25 2011 02:01 Sm3agol wrote:
On June 25 2011 00:41 Cylon wrote:
Christina Hendricks isn't fat...

Have you seen any recent photos of her? She's not obese, but she certainly isn't in shape either.


You're either a troll or have no idea what a woman's body actually looks like...

Saying this guy has never seen a woman's body is a reasonable comment? Hendricks is not remotely fit. She has a body of laziness. I don't believe Martin ever says whether Melisandre is fit or voluptuous but I imagine Stannis would not be partial to a voluptuous woman and I don't view Melisandre's personality as compatible with a soft and weak body.


Yeah, it's pretty reasonable. Real people don't look like photoshopped magazine covers.

And calling someone lazy and weak because they don't starve themselves, how is that reasonable ?


I personally don't really give a crap what your preferred female body type is. But apparently you are insecure enough in your own that you feel the need to lash out at anyone suggesting that yours isn't 100% the only "real one". I know quite a few all natural girls who can keep up with me on the food eating department, but actually do crap other than sit all day on the couch watching soaps, so they are as skinny/athletic as me. I like those girls. You can have your couch potatoes. I saw a few very recent pictures of Christina Hendricks on the beach, and if that is what floats your boat, then sure, so be it, i don't give a crap. Out of shape ladies need loving too. I'll take the ones that can beat me in a 5k though. Or tennis girls......MMmmmMmMMmMmMmm.

Edit: BUT BACK TO GoT..................
And by "back" I mean..."and now we wait for a year". :-(
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