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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
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Poll: JStorm vs Team SecretTeam Secret Win (9) 75% JStorm Win (3) 25% 12 total votes Your vote: JStorm vs Team Secret (Vote): JStorm Win (Vote): Team Secret Win
Poll: Evil Geniuses vs Virtus ProEvil Geniuses Win (14) 54% Virtus Pro Win (12) 46% 26 total votes Your vote: Evil Geniuses vs Virtus Pro (Vote): Evil Geniuses Win (Vote): Virtus Pro Win
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
J.S > Secret and EG > VP and we gucci >.<
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On March 20 2019 05:14 739 wrote: J.S > Secret and EG > VP and we gucci >.< I second this
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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Would be a glorious NA Dota day if that happened, i'll take it as my boys in Blue will advance :D
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I'm ready for NA dota to reign supreme.
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In the lower bracket *hails our Asiatic overlords*
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How likely does it really look like for JStorm to upset Secret
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Totally unlikely but hey, this major has many upsets.
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All I ask for today is that I stay ahead of 739 🙏🙏🙏
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On March 20 2019 18:47 Julmust wrote: All I ask for today is that I stay ahead of 739 🙏🙏🙏 I think I'm gonna change my mind if it comes to predictions and I'm just gonna do everything to not have the same predictions as you have >D
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Let's go EG!! Bleed Blueeeeee
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I really, really, really hope we see EG vs Secret in the Lower Bracket. But both teams have 2 tough match-ups before they'd face each other.
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Hopefully JStorm puts up a fight even if they don't upset them
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pretty even drafts for both teams
not sure if this is offlane puck or 4 pos puck from secret tho
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I don't think J.Storm has enough of a draft advantage to beat Secret.
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Damn we're headed towards a late first blood.
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Incredibly close now coming out of laning
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Aaaaaaaaaand suddenly Secret just out-plays J.S everywhere
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Zai is going to have a ~14 minute blink with maxed out silence. That's gonna suck.
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It kind of feels like Secret waited to see if Lifestealer was committing to a midas, and then they turned on the heat.
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this is so meh from JStorm
Mineski might've actually done better with clutch aggressions like that but they beat so whatever
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Yeah I don't think JStorm has a viable path to victory in this game.
edit: maaaaaaaybe if they can burn PA's BKB down to 5 seconds, they can start winning fights after 30-35 minutes.
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wtf? AC on Tusk?? I'm not sure I have seen that before!
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On March 20 2019 22:18 Geisterkarle wrote: wtf? AC on Tusk?? I'm not sure I have seen that before! people buy greeves on their midhero nowadays
it isn't that unusual anymore as teams have somebody on the team who would buy the "offlane items" if the offlaner himself can't/
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Listening to the music and hearing the line "Looking for a miracle." still hurts as a Liquid-Fan. ;-(
Expected outcome for game 1 and do not see a reason why game 2 should not be a win for Secret, but I think J.Storm will be quite happy with a Top8-finish. This is more than their other competitors for a direct TI-invite got except for Keen Gaming.
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JStorm antimage incoming.
edit: lul nevermind. just saw that oracle XD
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JStorm look better this game, but Secret have 3 hard farming cores so they are still gonna lose.
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That fight looked so good for J.S but Secret is so good at making the best of a bad situation
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alot better game by JStorm but not a fan of the void pick as that hero can't really do enough damage till like 4-5 item
ugh JStorm completely not focused like they're chasing different players of secret per fight .. looks more like pubs than a pro team
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On March 20 2019 23:08 Julmust wrote: That fight looked so good for J.S but Secret is so good at making the best of a bad situation That was more Jstorm lacking focusfire and just splitting and chasing different heroes than secret doing well. I mean void/brew chasing tide who already ravaged and just left the squishier heroes and their leshrac to die.(mid t2 fight)
And the fight near T1 again when them splitting off hitting different targets and brwe chasing oracle ...
Pretty sure that was more on them rather than Secret doing well. They're actually disorganized on fights
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Lesh just had to stay alive and that's an almost even trade since they used OD+Tide Ult. If he stays alive, they don't have to fight at Rosh
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welp, this is over. Reengaging at the rosh pit without lesh even there was questionable at best.
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Oh, a really nice Omnislash!
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I think Nisha is probably the best deal ever made in Dota.
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I expected the stomp and got the stomp. J.Storm still not close enough to touch the big boy teams.
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On March 20 2019 23:21 Minishield wrote: I think Nisha is probably the best deal ever made in Dota. Most likely Secret has the most consistently stable 2-5 position players since like 2-3 years ago.
They just need a carry that can carry. Nisha fits the bill.
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matumbaman caster(analysis) ! unexpected but good
not a fan of the VP carry but they do have a lot of counters on EG stuff
also s4 bountyhunter(why tho)
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not sure how VP kills tbh, they seem to lack damage unless puck goes for dagon early
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s4 bounty lul? let's see how it turns out
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nice is sumail actually gonna max q
i feel like theres some games where max q was the build for viper because of kill potential but everybodys just maxing w for the farm
im also a big bounty hunter believer
though i think he was underpicked before the most recent nerfs and now its slightly more questionable
edit nope guess not gonna max q xd
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alright eg lost this one go nxt
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this might not be the offlane bountyhunter game
the VP lineup feels like they're gonna 5 man alot
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9 minute midas-bottle-double null on noone puck
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problem is that both rtz and sumail got rekt and both could go jungle but theres not enough
need to make space so either can lane a bit more and the other jungle i guess?
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Artoozy!
Already love Matu as an analyst...
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Matu : VP are feeling good right. The voice comm is like "ez game blayt"
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holy shit that tower kill into uber timing
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loving this Matu cast. It is casual enough but he still bombs us with how proplayers and proteams think
On March 21 2019 00:34 Faruko wrote: holy shit that tower kill into uber timing VP is pretty good
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ramzes saving s4 with the fear lol
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jk eg didnt lose this one
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both teams kinda have questionable lategames idk how its gonna look but if fights keep going somewhat even the bh team gets ahead?
also ld falls off harder than lycan?
viper actually has like not terrible lategame if you get there?
idk
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VP should start fighting as 5 next time (Matu is right)
Yeah i haven't seen noone using coil on pango
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On March 21 2019 00:40 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: both teams kinda have questionable lategames idk how its gonna look but if fights keep going somewhat even the bh team gets ahead?
also ld falls off harder than lycan?
viper actually has like not terrible lategame if you get there?
idk lycan should fall, not viper but viper is super poor, hmmm
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i forgot that puck aghs is pretty good
60 seconds cooldown on the ultimate
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EG's heroes suffer the problem that almost all of them are just uhm brawlers in fights. Like there isn't much room for outplay with their heroes
VP suffers the damage problem with a single core LD
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This game is like the definition of that "Well yes, but actually no" meme :D
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i'm not really sure how VP is winning the brawls here
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Matu watched rtz replays of lycan
think Matu is fanboying rtz
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i guess noone goes for dagon?
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VP has serious damage issues and they have issues also attacking
why they didnt kill venge? it was like 2 hits, rtz was already out
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yea i still think youd rather have a lycan at the 45 minute mark than an ld at the 45 minute mark
but i think the biggest differential, going position to position, is the pango vs the nyx
pango's been doing so much, both dmg and lockdown
nyx has not
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you think a few more armor items would fix a lot of issues but itemization of VP has been really lackluster
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On March 21 2019 00:49 Faruko wrote: i guess noone goes for dagon? Don't think it would've been enough, EG was eventually gonna get bkb's and pipes.
Their lineup overall really don't have enough damage with a lonedruid as their main damage dealer(not exactly one of the upperechilon of damage dealing carries)
It would've helped tho but the aghs also did help alot but yeah dagon would've been nice
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wow aghs + octarine on noone, thats 45s ulti cd
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man
i think rtz picked the wrong talent lmfao
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WTF is VP doing, they dont buy a atos to control those bkb less heros and there positioning is bad, lets fight in choke points. They handed EG this win.
edit: well played by EG and VP just wtf...
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s4 is actually doing so much damage too lol
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that was a really bad call to fight outside
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On March 21 2019 00:56 its_a_me wrote: WTF is VP doing, they dont buy a atos to control those bkb less heros and there positioning is bad, lets fight in choke points. They handed EG this win.
edit: well played by EG and VP just wtf... They already have a decent AOE control with puck aghs.
And who's saying EG cores don't have bkb's.
VP needs damage their lineup don't offer it. That's kinda the end of the story.
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stream please... T_T
edit: lycan too strong. wolves OP when you can get them
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yeah VP can't win this anymore
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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
What a game from my boy rtc!!
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viper, the classic lose lane win game hero
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On March 21 2019 00:58 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2019 00:56 its_a_me wrote: WTF is VP doing, they dont buy a atos to control those bkb less heros and there positioning is bad, lets fight in choke points. They handed EG this win.
edit: well played by EG and VP just wtf... They already have a decent AOE control with puck aghs. And who's saying EG cores don't have bkb's. VP needs damage their lineup don't offer it. That's kinda the end of the story.
They went late for bkbs and because of their low damage output, especialy the bounty hunter escaped a lot.
They can do so much better, i dont know.
Edit: but true, the major problem was, they couldnt kill anyone.
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MVP Matumbaman. Closely followed by Artoozy and Cr1t.
This build by NoOne was...I dont know...a Dagon would have secured so many kills.
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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
I didn't like his midas pickup either tbf. You don't need a midas on puck surely, especially when you win your lane comfortably like.
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On March 21 2019 01:07 Rufus Dupres wrote: This build by NoOne was...I dont know...a Dagon would have secured so many kills.
A early dagon to secure kills, sounds nice.
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yaaaaaaaas more viper big viper fan here
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still dont see what vp see in this nyx hero
guess we'll find out
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come on VP. I need to see a cliffed RTZ
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United States15275 Posts
VP has noticeably struggled to control the midgame tempo at this tournament. Either they commit too hard or avoid fights at all costs to the detriment of their drafts.
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So much escape on both sides is making this a crazy fight.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
In these fights nobody dies in the end, jeez so many jukes, kites, force staffs and shit.
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this is benny hill the game
everyone is getting kited so hard lol
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i predict 15min and EG has this game
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this would really be a good nullfier game ramzes .. if you jump viper or sven they're good as dead (viper eblade removed and well bkb's and all that stuff which saves a hero from ursa)
what was ld doing at the base
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that was a pretty decent play by LD, got a t3 and stopped eg from pushing fro like 30 seconds since he has bb but ramzes not
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why did LD drop-kill the branch on the base of eg
he wasn't full slotted and the branch gives 1 stat which is still something
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vp again with the damage issues
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EG itemized really well for VP I gotta say.
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yeah and VP doesnt itemized against EG ... again
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this series is what i hoped for to have more of in this tournament
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This is still on a knife's edge omg
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
What the fuck am I watching, lol.
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These fights are brawls that spill out of the room into the streets and involve other people.
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This teamfight was massive
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Game of the year right here? I don't even really watch DotA any more, but this is pretty amazing.
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good to see VP finally bring their A game and we have awsome game.
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wtf happened
how is vp winning
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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VP clawed their way back. Some of the Vacuums + stun combos were huge.
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holy shit I thought VP were out of this game like 35 minutes ago
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Matumbaman with the hype cast
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high risk high reward play from EG
GG
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
I hope EG tilts in 3rd game now, lmao.
WHAT A GAME
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What a crazy game, hope game 3 is just as good (but with EG winning)
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This series is all we could have dreamed for
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STOP PICKING THIS GOD DAMN LONE DRUID!!!! that hero man , he falls of a CLIFF late game
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SOOOLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO
What a game.
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WOW what a game! Pasha & rodjer were so damn good in those long drawn out fights..... still not very sure how VP won the fights...
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On March 21 2019 02:37 bluzi wrote: STOP PICKING THIS GOD DAMN LONE DRUID!!!! that hero man , he falls of a CLIFF late game Lol when this is typed by some1 with a lone druid profile picture, it must mean something. ....
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Nothing out of that double ravage in the pit was kinda painful to watch tbh
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lets hope both keep theis pace and we have a good game 3
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I'm pretty nervous, I think VP is going to ride the momentum to a game 3 stomp
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
I think VP is gonna get fucked with that draft...
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Today rtz has come to play, still I think that VP right now has the advantage
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EG in big trouble imo, TB is 1k behind PL and 2k behind Razor, and the rest of EG is just kinda dying around the map
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LOL Matumbaman making fun of Sumail playing only viper. The Bounty pick is still not showing up.
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Matumba is a great co-caster
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There's no chance EG wins this
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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<3 that dagon
this is the VP I love to watch
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that was rough :CCCC wp VP!
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On March 21 2019 03:45 clusen wrote: 3rd place curse broken they reached 3rd round of the lower bracket tho, checkmate atheist
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Great series and with Matu and ODPixel you got a duo which were giving a performance as a caster on an equivalent level like both playing teams. This is what I want to see from casters and not goofing around the whole game and ruining the atmosphere.
At least EG got what they came for...they secured their TI invite. If everybody would have been on the level of Arteezy and Cr1t today, they would have beaten VP.
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On March 21 2019 03:03 739 wrote: I think VP is gonna get fucked with that draft... This didn't age well imo..
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I am teh sads of course, but always happy to watch VP play well. And the moments I did catch from game 2 were a treat. Rooting for Fnatic now!
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