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nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
February 24 2018 11:41 GMT
#21
dont get the ursa pick against an omni
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
February 24 2018 11:44 GMT
#22
ursa omni is a quiet even 1:1 lane
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 24 2018 11:48 GMT
#23
The top lane wasn't a 1v1. VP put the SK top and they burnt Fear's regen early on, which put him on the back foot. I think EG was banking on the Omni having a miserable time in lane but instead he did just fine because the SK was there and Rubick isn't really strong enough to bully those 2 out
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 24 2018 11:49 GMT
#24
Very comprehensive & well managed G1 for VP.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 24 2018 11:49 GMT
#25
It is an even lane, but later on Omni is very good against the Ursa. Guardian Angel means Ursa won't kill anyone instantly in a teamfight, which is what you want from an Ursa.
super gg
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
February 24 2018 11:50 GMT
#26
On February 24 2018 20:49 cecek wrote:
It is an even lane, but later on Omni is very good against the Ursa. Guardian Angel means Ursa won't kill anyone instantly in a teamfight, which is what you want from an Ursa.


also doesnt repel get rid of fury stacks?
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7733 Posts
February 24 2018 11:51 GMT
#27
Was Lycan banned? Maybe it would be better than Ursa for Fear this game
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 24 2018 11:52 GMT
#28
Solo drafts >>> Ramzes drafts
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 24 2018 11:52 GMT
#29
On February 24 2018 20:44 its_a_me wrote:
ursa omni is a quiet even 1:1 lane

It's not about the lane, it's about Ursa being completely useless in team fights because he has to jump in, and when guardian angel is popped he is just a dead weight.

Nice play by VP.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 24 2018 11:54 GMT
#30
On February 24 2018 20:50 nVme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2018 20:49 cecek wrote:
It is an even lane, but later on Omni is very good against the Ursa. Guardian Angel means Ursa won't kill anyone instantly in a teamfight, which is what you want from an Ursa.


also doesnt repel get rid of fury stacks?

Nah, fury stacks cannot be dispelled, but since only Ursa benefits from them they don't matter anyway when Ursa can't get anyone.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 24 2018 11:54 GMT
#31
Don't think fury stacks is dispellable.

If ursa needs to spend additional gold on regen just to stay in lane and doesn't get any hero kills in return, most likely he will lose his timing window and can be considered losing his lane.

EG already lost but still pretty funny to see Fear ursa getting radiance just to get burn by reflection.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 24 2018 11:56 GMT
#32
Ok then that went very wrong xd
Game 2 pleaseee win EG
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 24 2018 11:58 GMT
#33
On February 24 2018 20:52 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2018 20:44 its_a_me wrote:
ursa omni is a quiet even 1:1 lane

It's not about the lane, it's about Ursa being completely useless in team fights because he has to jump in, and when guardian angel is popped he is just a dead weight.

Nice play by VP.


The pick was largely about the lane though. It's not like it comes as a surprise to EG that Ursa is pretty useless in an even game against the Omni. But it is one of the heroes that can completely push the Omni out of lane and make him get nothing, and they wanted to win the lanes far harder than they did. The issue was that VP could commit the SK top to help the Omni out so Ursa never got to really bully him and get an early boots advantage and so on, and EG's support duo wasn't strong enough early to guarantee the head start
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
February 24 2018 12:00 GMT
#34
On February 24 2018 20:52 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2018 20:44 its_a_me wrote:
ursa omni is a quiet even 1:1 lane

It's not about the lane, it's about Ursa being completely useless in team fights because he has to jump in, and when guardian angel is popped he is just a dead weight.

Nice play by VP.


agree, but i thought they picked Ursa to go 1on1 with omni. I would have liked seeing a hex on fear instead of radiance, going full utility.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 24 2018 12:04 GMT
#35
Misery's support duo choice is usually awful from what I recall. Last game was rubick and wisp. Previous games have kotl + some random pos4 hero. I mean if he wants to pick supports that greedy, he should at least pick a early game cancer core hero that can create space or tank early game pressure like Matu's role in Liquid.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 24 2018 12:08 GMT
#36
Offt Omni and Naga first pick thats horrible xd
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7733 Posts
February 24 2018 12:10 GMT
#37
Skywrath?
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
February 24 2018 12:15 GMT
#38
liking eg for g2. g3 hype
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
February 24 2018 12:16 GMT
#39
so VP 2:0?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 24 2018 12:18 GMT
#40
Need sumail to go off on one here on beast. The skywrath 100% a bulba pick here he loves that hero xd
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