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uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-16 23:51:08
July 16 2016 23:48 GMT
#121
On July 17 2016 08:45 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:33 Latham wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.


IMO the hardest part about mandarin is that you have to memorise the characters, as it is not the sum of its parts. Most of the time you are unable to infer what the word means by looking at what the character consist of. It is unlike English where say the word 'belittle' can be inferred to be related to the word 'little'.

Tone is like the least of your worries imo haha


...mandarin is literally built on a system where you get the meaning of characters by looking at what parts it is made out of

wut?

I mean you can't exactly understand every character that way but the words are modular. It's at least more modular than english. Tonality is easily the biggest challenge because it's a fundamental difference and different tones give rise to completely different meanings.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 16 2016 23:52 GMT
#122
On July 17 2016 08:48 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:45 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:33 Latham wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.


IMO the hardest part about mandarin is that you have to memorise the characters, as it is not the sum of its parts. Most of the time you are unable to infer what the word means by looking at what the character consist of. It is unlike English where say the word 'belittle' can be inferred to be related to the word 'little'.

Tone is like the least of your worries imo haha


...mandarin is literally built on a system where you get the meaning of characters by looking at what parts it is made out of

wut?

I mean you can't exactly understand every character that way but the words are modular. It's at least more modular than english. Tonality is easily the biggest challenge because it's a fundamental difference and different tones give rise to completely different meanings.


Maybe that's why my mandarin isn't strong. But they say you shouldn't 有边读边 for a reason lol
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
July 17 2016 00:02 GMT
#123
On July 17 2016 08:52 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:48 uriel- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:45 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:33 Latham wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.


IMO the hardest part about mandarin is that you have to memorise the characters, as it is not the sum of its parts. Most of the time you are unable to infer what the word means by looking at what the character consist of. It is unlike English where say the word 'belittle' can be inferred to be related to the word 'little'.

Tone is like the least of your worries imo haha


...mandarin is literally built on a system where you get the meaning of characters by looking at what parts it is made out of

wut?

I mean you can't exactly understand every character that way but the words are modular. It's at least more modular than english. Tonality is easily the biggest challenge because it's a fundamental difference and different tones give rise to completely different meanings.


Maybe that's why my mandarin isn't strong. But they say you shouldn't 有边读边 for a reason lol


Yeah it doesn't work all the time but there's definitely logic behind the radicals and composition of the characters. It would be pretty awful if you actually had to memorize thousands of unique characters with no real pattern to their construction.

Drow ban this time, so maybe we'll actually have a game
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
July 17 2016 00:06 GMT
#124
Picking CM 3rd and locking your two supp spots (and not leaving 1 slot open for AA) seems really weird. On top of that CM obviously also does nothing. They have to know about the Huskar possibility.
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
July 17 2016 00:09 GMT
#125
navi 4finals
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
July 17 2016 00:09 GMT
#126
That is a Pudge in a Na'Vi game that isn't on Na'Vi's side. What is happening.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9558 Posts
July 17 2016 00:11 GMT
#127
On July 17 2016 09:09 CrazyBirdman wrote:
That is a Pudge in a Na'Vi game that isn't on Na'Vi's side. What is happening.


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Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
July 17 2016 00:19 GMT
#128
if only navi had SD. scepter ulti DESTROYS huskar. just like my game 2 hours ago =|
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
July 17 2016 00:23 GMT
#129
Last time it was OG shitting on Navi and now it's liquid. Talk about being a punching bag
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-17 00:32:07
July 17 2016 00:31 GMT
#130
tier 2 team gets clowned on by tier 1 teams. no surprises there.
secret - never again
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
July 17 2016 00:32 GMT
#131
On July 17 2016 09:23 pellejohnson wrote:
Last time it was OG shitting on Navi and now it's liquid. Talk about being a punching bag

If Na'Vi actually want to be a serious contender at TI they have to improve a lot. It's brutal how they get dominated by the top tier teams.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
July 17 2016 00:34 GMT
#132
Liquid and their dirty picks lol.
Brood War loyalist
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
July 17 2016 00:38 GMT
#133
On July 17 2016 09:32 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 09:23 pellejohnson wrote:
Last time it was OG shitting on Navi and now it's liquid. Talk about being a punching bag

If Na'Vi actually want to be a serious contender at TI they have to improve a lot. It's brutal how they get dominated by the top tier teams.


I've only seen them get dominated by OG and Liquid, I feel like they can potentially take on any of the other teams at TI.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
July 17 2016 00:55 GMT
#134
I think there is some kind of mental block as well. I think it was artstyle who said in an interview that they never beat OG or Liquid in practice games either and he seemed pretty depressed about the whole thing.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 17 2016 01:52 GMT
#135
On July 17 2016 09:02 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:52 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:48 uriel- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:45 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:33 Latham wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.


IMO the hardest part about mandarin is that you have to memorise the characters, as it is not the sum of its parts. Most of the time you are unable to infer what the word means by looking at what the character consist of. It is unlike English where say the word 'belittle' can be inferred to be related to the word 'little'.

Tone is like the least of your worries imo haha


...mandarin is literally built on a system where you get the meaning of characters by looking at what parts it is made out of

wut?

I mean you can't exactly understand every character that way but the words are modular. It's at least more modular than english. Tonality is easily the biggest challenge because it's a fundamental difference and different tones give rise to completely different meanings.


Maybe that's why my mandarin isn't strong. But they say you shouldn't 有边读边 for a reason lol


Yeah it doesn't work all the time but there's definitely logic behind the radicals and composition of the characters. It would be pretty awful if you actually had to memorize thousands of unique characters with no real pattern to their construction.

Drow ban this time, so maybe we'll actually have a game


Actually yea I'd agree that there's meaning to the composition of Mandarin characters. I mixed up. What makes no sense is how you pronounce the characters. You can come up with a sophisticated English word and still be able to pronounce it. But it is strange why 水 is shui, 冰 is bing etc.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
July 17 2016 02:26 GMT
#136
The top 3 is on whole of shit ton different level that they can pick Zet and still win
-Terran-
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