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[Summit 5] Knockout Stage - Day 4

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
July 16 2016 10:42 GMT
#1

Summit 5 - Day 4

16th July 2016 16:45 GMT (+00:00)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_Summit/5

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
July 16 2016 10:42 GMT
#2
Poll: Liquid vs Digital Chaos

Liquid Wins (23)
 
92%

Digital Chaos Wins (2)
 
8%

25 total votes

Your vote: Liquid vs Digital Chaos

(Vote): Liquid Wins
(Vote): Digital Chaos Wins


Poll: Fnatic vs Na'vi

Fnatic Wins (18)
 
60%

Na'Vi Wins (12)
 
40%

30 total votes

Your vote: Fnatic vs Na'vi

(Vote): Fnatic Wins
(Vote): Na'Vi Wins

ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
July 16 2016 13:28 GMT
#3
Let's go Navi!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 14:03 GMT
#4
Will Liquid or Navi continue to save strats today?

That is the question.
secret - never again
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
July 16 2016 15:04 GMT
#5
damn !! it's another mushi vs dendi moment after long time ,
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
July 16 2016 15:19 GMT
#6
wings navi finals. GIVE PLEASE. I'll take a liquid loss for that
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 16 2016 15:25 GMT
#7
On July 17 2016 00:19 Nyan wrote:
wings navi finals. GIVE PLEASE. I'll take a liquid loss for that

5 drow games in a row, do you really want that? Are you sure?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
dragonswarrior
Profile Joined August 2015
389 Posts
July 16 2016 16:41 GMT
#8
Fnatic tryna prove they deserved the TI6 invite. Na'Vi need to defend it to the team everyone agrees was the other team who should have gotten it.

Yea. That's kinda hype.
“Words are pale shadows of forgotten names. As names have power, words have power. Words can light fires in the minds of men. Words can wring tears from the hardest hearts.”
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 16 2016 16:42 GMT
#9
Not only will Liquid win 2-0 vs DC, they will never be even close to losing at any point in their games
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
July 16 2016 16:48 GMT
#10
On July 17 2016 01:41 dragonswarrior wrote:
Fnatic tryna prove they deserved the TI6 invite. Na'Vi need to defend it to the team everyone agrees was the other team who should have gotten it.

Yea. That's kinda hype.


I don't think any team of both is trying to prove anything here ..at the end of the day , both teams are at TI.

Expecting funky drafts from both teams
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
July 16 2016 17:03 GMT
#11
Heh it is obvious Fnatic deserves the invite more than navi. They are unlucky due to sea having no other good teams, and that MVP deserves it more than them. I think navi's invite is justified because there wasn't any other more deserving EU team other than liquid and og.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 17:19 GMT
#12
reactions when DC 2-0's Liquid?

Poll: reactions when DC 2-0's Liquid?

dc saved less strats (3)
 
50%

obviously saving strats (2)
 
33%

saving strats (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: reactions when DC 2-0's Liquid?

(Vote): saving strats
(Vote): obviously saving strats
(Vote): dc saved less strats


secret - never again
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
July 16 2016 17:22 GMT
#13
EU players under NA organization playing in EU vs EU players under NA organization playing in NA
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
July 16 2016 17:29 GMT
#14
i don't see how this timber's ever gonna die when he gets bloodstone shiva
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
July 16 2016 17:33 GMT
#15
Slightly OT:
I think I haven't see that before: Jugg was quite low and his animation was of Jugg "stumbling" along!?!? WTF?
There can only be one Geisterkarle
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 16 2016 17:36 GMT
#16
Production needs to increase the mic volume of the low talking caster, its impossible to hear what he has to say
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32739 Posts
July 16 2016 17:37 GMT
#17
On July 17 2016 02:33 Geisterkarle wrote:
Slightly OT:
I think I haven't see that before: Jugg was quite low and his animation was of Jugg "stumbling" along!?!? WTF?

Some heroes have wounded walking animations if their HP is low.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 16 2016 17:37 GMT
#18
On July 17 2016 02:22 Verniy wrote:
EU players under NA organization playing in EU vs EU players under NA organization playing in NA

Liquid isn't an NA organization, it's a Dutch organization
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
July 16 2016 17:37 GMT
#19
On July 17 2016 02:33 Geisterkarle wrote:
Slightly OT:
I think I haven't see that before: Jugg was quite low and his animation was of Jugg "stumbling" along!?!? WTF?

You've never seen that? Most heroes have a "low HP" staggering animation
rip
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 17:47 GMT
#20
dc playing.. quite well actually
secret - never again
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
July 16 2016 17:50 GMT
#21
damn if ds had wall there

shame :<
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
July 16 2016 17:50 GMT
#22
On July 17 2016 02:50 Oddball28 wrote:
damn if ds had wall there

shame :<

Quite wierd not to have it skilled at lvl 10 tho
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
July 16 2016 17:52 GMT
#23
im pretty sure misery tossed the shuriken on the linkens in the chrono
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 16 2016 17:52 GMT
#24
sick bait from misery
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
July 16 2016 17:55 GMT
#25
Do i see correct fata has lance??
People call me Jack, OMASJack
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
July 16 2016 18:01 GMT
#26
This Moo guy play like NADota....first he had no wall. Now he runs out of range of ion shell infront of juggernaut, not canceling his blink...
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9558 Posts
July 16 2016 18:12 GMT
#27
Why do you buy dragon lance on a jugger?
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
July 16 2016 18:13 GMT
#28
team dagon incoming
rip
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
July 16 2016 18:15 GMT
#29
This game is on reso , cost them the game with several bad moves and no farm
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
July 16 2016 18:16 GMT
#30
On July 17 2016 03:12 Latham wrote:
Why do you buy dragon lance on a jugger?

Absurd stats for the money.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
July 16 2016 18:18 GMT
#31
Reso pls
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
goldspoon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada112 Posts
July 16 2016 18:26 GMT
#32
Really love the music at this Summit, playlist anyone?
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
July 16 2016 18:32 GMT
#33
now watch meepo get camped by 3 people all laning phase
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 16 2016 18:34 GMT
#34
I'm glad to see Meepo but it's gonna get shut down hard
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 16 2016 18:35 GMT
#35
Oh baby Warlock vs Meepo, this is going to be a fun game
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 16 2016 18:38 GMT
#36
Is ODPixel drinking a Carlsberg while working?!?
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 18:50 GMT
#37
alright DC collapsing

Bomb 3 LANs leading into Ti6 plan still in effect.

secret - never again
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32739 Posts
July 16 2016 18:50 GMT
#38
On July 17 2016 03:50 ch33psh33p wrote:
alright DC collapsing

Bomb 3 LANs leading into Ti6 plan still in effect.


Hey, all part of the saving strats plan :^)
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 16 2016 18:51 GMT
#39
shoddy meepo play by wee
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
July 16 2016 18:51 GMT
#40
DC looking sad ..meepo just missed 2 nets
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
July 16 2016 18:54 GMT
#41
This is so over.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 18:54 GMT
#42
On July 17 2016 03:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 03:50 ch33psh33p wrote:
alright DC collapsing

Bomb 3 LANs leading into Ti6 plan still in effect.


Hey, all part of the saving strats plan :^)


DC will have saved so many strats going into Ti6 they won't even be playing dota anymore
secret - never again
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
July 16 2016 18:54 GMT
#43
DC really looking like they just took the free NA ticket to TI
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 16 2016 18:57 GMT
#44
DC is a tier 3 team, they're 100% getting last place at TI6
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
July 16 2016 18:57 GMT
#45
Memepushed tho.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
July 16 2016 18:58 GMT
#46
On July 17 2016 03:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
Memepushed tho.


That warlock pick haha
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
July 16 2016 19:00 GMT
#47
gg ez series.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 16 2016 19:01 GMT
#48
Warlock's so good, glad to see more teams than just MVP Phoenix and Wings running it
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
July 16 2016 19:28 GMT
#49
On July 17 2016 04:01 plasmidghost wrote:
Warlock's so good, glad to see more teams than just MVP Phoenix and Wings running it


Mvp has not been picking it lately tho..only wings ,but yeah, he seems aoo strong especially in these pushing lineups
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
July 16 2016 19:33 GMT
#50
On July 17 2016 03:57 plasmidghost wrote:
DC is a tier 3 team, they're 100% getting last place at TI6


puppey was right, w33/misery were left
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 16 2016 19:46 GMT
#51
On July 17 2016 03:57 plasmidghost wrote:
DC is a tier 3 team, they're 100% getting last place at TI6


DC currently has the same trajectory that Team Secret had post-Frankfurt. They finished okay, then started dropping lower & lower in results. You could see the skill but they simply couldn't get it together. This doesn't mean they've got much of a chance at TI6, but they've got the ability to place well if they fix their laning stage problems.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 16 2016 19:52 GMT
#52
Man I remember when just a radiance at 12 minutes was a pretty good timing, and Ditya Ra has that plus an armlet
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32739 Posts
July 16 2016 19:58 GMT
#53
Tide blows a Ravage for a Sand King hiding in a Sandstorm lol. Couldn't just Anchor to death?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 20:02 GMT
#54
On July 17 2016 04:46 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 03:57 plasmidghost wrote:
DC is a tier 3 team, they're 100% getting last place at TI6


DC currently has the same trajectory that Team Secret had post-Frankfurt. They finished okay, then started dropping lower & lower in results. You could see the skill but they simply couldn't get it together. This doesn't mean they've got much of a chance at TI6, but they've got the ability to place well if they fix their laning stage problems.


They finished "okay" in one tournament filled with NA washup hasbeens and still struggled mightily, barely scrapping through.

They're losing a lot, but thats about all they had in common with Secret post-Frankfurt.

This team hasn't seen anything remotely considered success yet, unless you think beating a bunch of tier 5 NA teams in the open quals while barely managing to make it "sucess"
secret - never again
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
July 16 2016 20:18 GMT
#55
I must admit, Fnatic are working hard to justify lack of invite.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
July 16 2016 20:21 GMT
#56
Fnatic are just saving strats it's okay
rip
dragonswarrior
Profile Joined August 2015
389 Posts
July 16 2016 20:34 GMT
#57
On July 17 2016 01:48 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 01:41 dragonswarrior wrote: snips


I don't think any team of both is trying to prove anything here ..at the end of the day , both teams are at TI.

Expecting funky drafts from both teams


I mean yea. *laughs* but from a spectating standpoint it makes the game more fun.

Gj NaVi on game 1! They're proving the naysayers wrong so far...
“Words are pale shadows of forgotten names. As names have power, words have power. Words can light fires in the minds of men. Words can wring tears from the hardest hearts.”
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
July 16 2016 20:42 GMT
#58
Oh jesus I missed like 10 seconds of the game and I missed 5 kills?!
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
July 16 2016 20:43 GMT
#59
9 Kills in 3 mins this game is so clowny.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
July 16 2016 20:54 GMT
#60
SEA vs CIS always good
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 16 2016 21:10 GMT
#61
timbersaw, what a hero
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
July 16 2016 21:14 GMT
#62
Good thing he got that strength gain nerf
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9558 Posts
July 16 2016 21:24 GMT
#63
TimberGod what. a. hero. (raidboss)
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
July 16 2016 21:25 GMT
#64
Timbersaw with weave is literally unkillable.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 21:38 GMT
#65
Its okay I'm sure navi was saving strats in order to play a full bo3

or was it fnatic saving strats in game 1 in order to do the 2-1 comeback?

With so many teams saving strats I get confused sometimes.
secret - never again
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9558 Posts
July 16 2016 21:44 GMT
#66
Also could someone explain to me why Alch is out of meta now? A month ago octarine core alch was all the rage, now it's not even banned or picked. Same for cancerbird. Did something happen in a patch (I don't follow closely) or was it a pure meta change?
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
July 16 2016 21:55 GMT
#67
Alch was picked in game 1.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-16 22:13:45
July 16 2016 22:10 GMT
#68
General seem very invested in not joining any fucking fight.

Edit: And weirdly enough, when he does they get 4 kills...
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
July 16 2016 22:13 GMT
#69
Medusa with manta first.

You could not pick a worse item build rofl.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
July 16 2016 22:16 GMT
#70
On July 17 2016 07:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
Medusa with manta first.

You could not pick a worse item build rofl.

Pfft. Icefrog himself builds manta on dusa.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
July 16 2016 22:18 GMT
#71
On July 17 2016 07:16 Elurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 07:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
Medusa with manta first.

You could not pick a worse item build rofl.

Pfft. Icefrog himself builds manta on dusa.

Well, who said icefrog is good at dota after reading last 20 patch notes?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-16 22:21:06
July 16 2016 22:19 GMT
#72
On July 17 2016 07:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
Medusa with manta first.

You could not pick a worse item build rofl.

Especially this game where it removes nothing except time dilatation and he has to survive the 3 big ultis.

edit: also removes open wounds, my bad. Still bad tho.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 22:23 GMT
#73
That 4 man chrono

Would've been a 5 man wipe otherwise.
secret - never again
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
July 16 2016 22:23 GMT
#74
ditya ra + 4
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
July 16 2016 22:25 GMT
#75
Holy shit this Medusa build... Maelstrom.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
July 16 2016 22:27 GMT
#76
Great chrono to cockblock the help.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
July 16 2016 22:27 GMT
#77
Amazing usage of zoning chrono, actually.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
July 16 2016 22:28 GMT
#78
nice hype cast
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
July 16 2016 22:32 GMT
#79
Mjolnir against N'aix and this many BKBs seems like such a huge waste of gold for Dusa
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 22:34 GMT
#80
What the FUCK was navi doing there?

secret - never again
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
July 16 2016 22:35 GMT
#81
Why aren't they removing this caster that keeps making disgusting noises
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 22:37 GMT
#82
real question is how do you not drop the storm on the enigma there.

this disruptor play has been so bad
secret - never again
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 16 2016 22:38 GMT
#83
Southeast Asia is free for international too.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
July 16 2016 22:38 GMT
#84
I thought Fnatic deserved invite over Navi

or just saving strats?
rip
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 22:39 GMT
#85
alright free teams out of the way

time to see which team is willing to go down and out saving strats

LIQUID? OR NAVI
secret - never again
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
July 16 2016 22:41 GMT
#86
Well we know Secret is also saving strats. And because they're not playing any lans anywhere, Envy has even more extra time to finish the forced labor camp he's been planning for anime haters and Arteezy can have more time complaining about the guy who slashed the tires on his Bugatti.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
July 16 2016 22:42 GMT
#87
Phew, thought I just crashed.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
July 16 2016 22:43 GMT
#88
See. That's why I said navi had really shit bracket luck in Manila. Fnatic was really beatable, but they had to get OG and liquid instead.

Also I posted before about Mushi. The sad thing about his previous Medusa games is that he thinks his build works, but the main reason he won was due to his stone gaze protecting tb.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 16 2016 22:44 GMT
#89
lol that production value ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
July 16 2016 22:45 GMT
#90
Who's behind the alien mask?
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 16 2016 22:46 GMT
#91
On July 17 2016 07:45 Elurie wrote:
Who's behind the alien mask?


It's Mr. Glerbadsknag
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
July 16 2016 22:48 GMT
#92
Well the top 3 Euro teams at the event are OG/Liquid/Navi (in no particular order). I guess the TI invites were pretty accurate
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-16 22:56:18
July 16 2016 22:55 GMT
#93
fnatic needs to drop Mushi and get a better carry because their game plan has always been relying on the other 4 to create enough space for Mushi to farm up ... in most cases either they failed or they would have won those games anyway regardless of how Mushi had performed ...

edit: wings boy on the casting couch ... nice
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 23:01 GMT
#94
oh shieeeeet.

chinese cast
secret - never again
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-16 23:10:29
July 16 2016 23:05 GMT
#95
I think for this to work the translator should only act as a translator and let Merlini lead the conversation ... or else it'll be really awkward and weird ...

edit: toilet roll carry ... nice
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
July 16 2016 23:18 GMT
#96
yeaaaaaaaaah this cast is not going to work :/
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
July 16 2016 23:20 GMT
#97
Heh not knowing mandarin in 2016, plebs

seriously though I think they tried this before? It really doesn't work.
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
July 16 2016 23:20 GMT
#98
This cast... Not a fan especially not for such an important game
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 23:21 GMT
#99
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it
secret - never again
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 16 2016 23:22 GMT
#100
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 16 2016 23:23 GMT
#101
4 of the least talkative people of the entire house casting this game -- sleepy
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
July 16 2016 23:23 GMT
#102
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

No! Mr. Xi, tear down this firewall!
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
July 16 2016 23:24 GMT
#103
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
July 16 2016 23:26 GMT
#104
holy fuck even in pubs I dont see this much feed

pls navi...
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
July 16 2016 23:26 GMT
#105
Too bad because they have really really good insight, but it kinda doesn't work for a summit setting especially with an english audience.

I really like that they agreed to do it in the first place though.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 16 2016 23:27 GMT
#106
Reminds me a bit of those really old 2009 casts that were subtitled on youtube, some of my favorite castings of all times.

Subtitles would be a shitload more natural but almost impossible to to do in real time though

ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 23:28 GMT
#107
well looks like navi and liquid are different tiers of team after all
secret - never again
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
July 16 2016 23:29 GMT
#108
This looks over already. I mean Liquid will still feed at some point but I don't see how Na'Vi is winning this.
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
July 16 2016 23:29 GMT
#109
Wow this is beyond awful. How about at least trying for the viewers?
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-16 23:33:02
July 16 2016 23:30 GMT
#110
On July 17 2016 08:20 uriel- wrote:
Heh not knowing mandarin in 2016, plebs

seriously though I think they tried this before? It really doesn't work.

iG.ChuaN casted a game at summit b4
and it was also a stop iirc
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 16 2016 23:31 GMT
#111
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.

Still quadruple the number of any other language I knew at the time, and I still only really know English. My spanish is very broken and that's about it (joys of living in the US). I did decide to learn japanese a few months ago, but that certainly seems way easier than mandarin.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 23:32 GMT
#112
"we can't beat them anyways might as well save strats" -navi
secret - never again
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9558 Posts
July 16 2016 23:33 GMT
#113
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 16 2016 23:33 GMT
#114
The way this game is going it's probably the best one they could have picked to try this out, seeing as it's a ridiculously one sided stomp.

Na'vi aren't even trying anymore
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
July 16 2016 23:33 GMT
#115
why is coL at starladder and not liquid instead =/
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 16 2016 23:34 GMT
#116
Rofl 1400 gold for 2 kills because they were down 7500 gold at the 14 minute mark...
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
July 16 2016 23:41 GMT
#117
Ok, ban drow vs everyone. Let's try again next game Navi.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
July 16 2016 23:42 GMT
#118
Brutal.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
July 16 2016 23:43 GMT
#119
SAVAGE
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
July 16 2016 23:45 GMT
#120
On July 17 2016 08:33 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.


IMO the hardest part about mandarin is that you have to memorise the characters, as it is not the sum of its parts. Most of the time you are unable to infer what the word means by looking at what the character consist of. It is unlike English where say the word 'belittle' can be inferred to be related to the word 'little'.

Tone is like the least of your worries imo haha
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-16 23:51:08
July 16 2016 23:48 GMT
#121
On July 17 2016 08:45 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:33 Latham wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.


IMO the hardest part about mandarin is that you have to memorise the characters, as it is not the sum of its parts. Most of the time you are unable to infer what the word means by looking at what the character consist of. It is unlike English where say the word 'belittle' can be inferred to be related to the word 'little'.

Tone is like the least of your worries imo haha


...mandarin is literally built on a system where you get the meaning of characters by looking at what parts it is made out of

wut?

I mean you can't exactly understand every character that way but the words are modular. It's at least more modular than english. Tonality is easily the biggest challenge because it's a fundamental difference and different tones give rise to completely different meanings.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
July 16 2016 23:52 GMT
#122
On July 17 2016 08:48 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:45 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:33 Latham wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.


IMO the hardest part about mandarin is that you have to memorise the characters, as it is not the sum of its parts. Most of the time you are unable to infer what the word means by looking at what the character consist of. It is unlike English where say the word 'belittle' can be inferred to be related to the word 'little'.

Tone is like the least of your worries imo haha


...mandarin is literally built on a system where you get the meaning of characters by looking at what parts it is made out of

wut?

I mean you can't exactly understand every character that way but the words are modular. It's at least more modular than english. Tonality is easily the biggest challenge because it's a fundamental difference and different tones give rise to completely different meanings.


Maybe that's why my mandarin isn't strong. But they say you shouldn't 有边读边 for a reason lol
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
July 17 2016 00:02 GMT
#123
On July 17 2016 08:52 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:48 uriel- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:45 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:33 Latham wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.


IMO the hardest part about mandarin is that you have to memorise the characters, as it is not the sum of its parts. Most of the time you are unable to infer what the word means by looking at what the character consist of. It is unlike English where say the word 'belittle' can be inferred to be related to the word 'little'.

Tone is like the least of your worries imo haha


...mandarin is literally built on a system where you get the meaning of characters by looking at what parts it is made out of

wut?

I mean you can't exactly understand every character that way but the words are modular. It's at least more modular than english. Tonality is easily the biggest challenge because it's a fundamental difference and different tones give rise to completely different meanings.


Maybe that's why my mandarin isn't strong. But they say you shouldn't 有边读边 for a reason lol


Yeah it doesn't work all the time but there's definitely logic behind the radicals and composition of the characters. It would be pretty awful if you actually had to memorize thousands of unique characters with no real pattern to their construction.

Drow ban this time, so maybe we'll actually have a game
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
July 17 2016 00:06 GMT
#124
Picking CM 3rd and locking your two supp spots (and not leaving 1 slot open for AA) seems really weird. On top of that CM obviously also does nothing. They have to know about the Huskar possibility.
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
July 17 2016 00:09 GMT
#125
navi 4finals
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
July 17 2016 00:09 GMT
#126
That is a Pudge in a Na'Vi game that isn't on Na'Vi's side. What is happening.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9558 Posts
July 17 2016 00:11 GMT
#127
On July 17 2016 09:09 CrazyBirdman wrote:
That is a Pudge in a Na'Vi game that isn't on Na'Vi's side. What is happening.


Liquid is getting frisky. I like it
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
July 17 2016 00:19 GMT
#128
if only navi had SD. scepter ulti DESTROYS huskar. just like my game 2 hours ago =|
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
July 17 2016 00:23 GMT
#129
Last time it was OG shitting on Navi and now it's liquid. Talk about being a punching bag
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-17 00:32:07
July 17 2016 00:31 GMT
#130
tier 2 team gets clowned on by tier 1 teams. no surprises there.
secret - never again
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
July 17 2016 00:32 GMT
#131
On July 17 2016 09:23 pellejohnson wrote:
Last time it was OG shitting on Navi and now it's liquid. Talk about being a punching bag

If Na'Vi actually want to be a serious contender at TI they have to improve a lot. It's brutal how they get dominated by the top tier teams.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
July 17 2016 00:34 GMT
#132
Liquid and their dirty picks lol.
Brood War loyalist
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
July 17 2016 00:38 GMT
#133
On July 17 2016 09:32 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 09:23 pellejohnson wrote:
Last time it was OG shitting on Navi and now it's liquid. Talk about being a punching bag

If Na'Vi actually want to be a serious contender at TI they have to improve a lot. It's brutal how they get dominated by the top tier teams.


I've only seen them get dominated by OG and Liquid, I feel like they can potentially take on any of the other teams at TI.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
July 17 2016 00:55 GMT
#134
I think there is some kind of mental block as well. I think it was artstyle who said in an interview that they never beat OG or Liquid in practice games either and he seemed pretty depressed about the whole thing.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
July 17 2016 01:52 GMT
#135
On July 17 2016 09:02 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 08:52 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:48 uriel- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:45 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:33 Latham wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:24 DucK- wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
On July 17 2016 08:21 ch33psh33p wrote:
not knowing madarain in 2016

seriously guys get with it

I tried to learn mandarin for about a month and gave up around realizing what it means to have 6 tones in a language


It's mainly 4 lol.


I also tried but quickly switched to Japanese in college after hearing about the 6 tone thing.


IMO the hardest part about mandarin is that you have to memorise the characters, as it is not the sum of its parts. Most of the time you are unable to infer what the word means by looking at what the character consist of. It is unlike English where say the word 'belittle' can be inferred to be related to the word 'little'.

Tone is like the least of your worries imo haha


...mandarin is literally built on a system where you get the meaning of characters by looking at what parts it is made out of

wut?

I mean you can't exactly understand every character that way but the words are modular. It's at least more modular than english. Tonality is easily the biggest challenge because it's a fundamental difference and different tones give rise to completely different meanings.


Maybe that's why my mandarin isn't strong. But they say you shouldn't 有边读边 for a reason lol


Yeah it doesn't work all the time but there's definitely logic behind the radicals and composition of the characters. It would be pretty awful if you actually had to memorize thousands of unique characters with no real pattern to their construction.

Drow ban this time, so maybe we'll actually have a game


Actually yea I'd agree that there's meaning to the composition of Mandarin characters. I mixed up. What makes no sense is how you pronounce the characters. You can come up with a sophisticated English word and still be able to pronounce it. But it is strange why 水 is shui, 冰 is bing etc.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
July 17 2016 02:26 GMT
#136
The top 3 is on whole of shit ton different level that they can pick Zet and still win
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