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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 23:42:45
July 15 2016 23:42 GMT
#201
I'm sure that lion soloing the bat was because OG was saving strats.

Don't panic guys.

Moon just didn't want the Lion to know his juggling pattern, so he let himself get killed.
secret - never again
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 23:43:39
July 15 2016 23:42 GMT
#202
No this game they aren't trying a new strategy, this is basically "we want to play more games against your team so we need to win."
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
July 15 2016 23:44 GMT
#203
notail feeding mid - obviously throwing to get more practice in the LB
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 15 2016 23:45 GMT
#204
That cour bait to save your own life!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1465 Posts
July 15 2016 23:45 GMT
#205
The mad man.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 15 2016 23:45 GMT
#206
Isn't saving strats a waste of time for TI?

The entire meta shifts after just the first week.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 23:47:06
July 15 2016 23:46 GMT
#207
I think we need a different way to talk about it than that they're trying to save strategy. Because that's not what they're doing. They're trying to find the best strategy by playing a lot of different ones, instead of using one strategy over and over again just because it's been working.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 23:47:10
July 15 2016 23:46 GMT
#208
Looks like Miracle is in that 9k in a team of 4ks situation.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
BigPwn
Profile Joined July 2016
6 Posts
July 15 2016 23:50 GMT
#209
Man what really impresses me about Wings is not just the fact they have good teamwork. It's their individual skill. A lot of Chinese teams are really only good at teamwork and lose their lanes solo a lot to the top Western players in mid,carry,offlane, etc. But, holy crap, these mid and carry players for Wings just destroy these Western players in lane.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
July 15 2016 23:51 GMT
#210
What impresses me about wings is how did they lost to comlpexity just 1 month ago
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 15 2016 23:51 GMT
#211
This is how.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 15 2016 23:54 GMT
#212
Wings are playing amazingly well this game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 15 2016 23:54 GMT
#213
gosh darn looks like OG were just saving strats!

turns out they were saving MORE strats than navi or liquid, very impressive.

secret - never again
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
July 15 2016 23:55 GMT
#214
well it is china's turn to win ti anyway
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
July 15 2016 23:58 GMT
#215
18 min bot radiance naga... and now a double kill
gonna be unstoppable
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 16 2016 00:02 GMT
#216
On July 16 2016 08:51 Faruko wrote:
What impresses me about wings is how did they lost to comlpexity just 1 month ago


Have you watched Wings play much? If they can't win their lanes, they normally get crushed. They don't really throw out "weird" stuff; they throw out synergies that just aren't necessarily on Meta heroes. (They also have a decent way of opening their drafts, but that's a longer discussion.) But if you guess right on your 2nd phase bans, it normally messes up Wings badly.

Or if you can get the push in earlier, which is how Newbee has approached them. Wings has a lot of the CDEC-vibe from last year, but they're not as good. Further, Wings really benefits from teams not being prepared for them. If we get a meta that is more defensive, I think Wings will fall off real fast, just like what happened at Manila Major.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
July 16 2016 00:03 GMT
#217
Wings got their wings clipped.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 16 2016 00:10 GMT
#218
I really don't like notail's build, peaking right now with a terrible transition, even some support kunkka are moving away from this build and going armlet + 4 4 1
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
July 16 2016 00:14 GMT
#219
Wings lost team cohesion after laning phase. OG is showing why they are champions.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 16 2016 00:14 GMT
#220
suddenly people coming out in droves claiming OG WERENT saving strats afterall.
secret - never again
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