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Pandemona
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Poll: ESL One Frankfurt Winner? OG (48) Na'Vi (46) Team Liquid (10) Vega Squadron (3) 107 total votes Your vote: ESL One Frankfurt Winner? (Vote): Team Liquid | ||
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Porcupinathy
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+ Show Spoiler + I really want to root for Vega though | ||
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the bear jew
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FiWiFaKi
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With the top 4 Navi secured their invite, so we have a guaranteed 7 invites of OG, TL, MVP, Fnatic, LGD, Newbee, Navi. Looking forward to the games. | ||
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Vertical
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the smaller the tournament is the stronger they are | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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On June 19 2016 17:30 Moobutt wrote: Seems like whoever wins this match will beat Vega/Na'Vi easily in the finals barring a CIS-doto miracle. Well, there's the disaster of a Finals that Team Liquid had against Wings at ESL One Manila to keep in mind. While the TL vs OG winner will be the favorite, it's not an assurance. | ||
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CorsairHero
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On June 19 2016 17:39 Vertical wrote: that emcee is the one from Manila isnt it ? yep - eric neeman | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
ESL Manila really brings him fortune it seems I mean he's filipino right ? | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
On June 19 2016 17:41 Vertical wrote: ESL Manila really brings him fortune it seems I mean he's filipino right ? To be fair, he was really famous already, locally at least. It's not as if he was a random nobody or something, but yeah seems like it was a nice international breakout for him. | ||
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rebdomine
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On June 19 2016 17:55 Erasme wrote: damn meepo rekts all their heroes but nyx And nyx keeps feeding | ||
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BurningSera
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CorsairHero
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On June 19 2016 18:06 BurningSera wrote: lol miracle wtf 9k mmr plays XD | ||
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blobrus
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On June 19 2016 18:06 BurningSera wrote: lol miracle wtf Yea I've never seen him be this bad. | ||
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BurningSera
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Erasme
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bad lanes by OG | ||
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BurningSera
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that kill on phoenix is boss, but then that chase after was lulz | ||
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BurningSera
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easy for liquid :D | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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OG maybe had a little too much cheer?  | ||
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rebdomine
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On June 19 2016 18:09 saddaromma wrote: I still don't get why analysts and casters ignore and don't talk about Phoenix. This hero has a such huge impact. It's the plan to keep him from being nerfed. So they can continue to raise their own mmr in pubs. | ||
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CorsairHero
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On June 19 2016 18:17 nojok wrote: What was this draft from OG? I'll check the pick order later. es bat wisp timber meepo | ||
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Xafnia
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 19 2016 18:17 hunter_x wrote: that proves it, kuro just had a bad day in manila XD In Bo5 series, you really have to isolate out the Power Synergy a team used to win the previous match. Sometimes, it's just something like sneaking in an Alchemist at the right spot. Other times, it's a 2-hero combo. And, in other series, it's specifically singling out a player to put on an off-hero for them. At Manila, Liquid just didn't realize how powerful the Void + Phoenix was. Though Games 2 & 4 could have actually gone either way. Liquid more just lost the 50/50 engagements too often. (Sometimes, that's all that separates teams.) | ||
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cecek
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BurningSera
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Taf the Ghost
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On June 19 2016 18:25 BurningSera wrote: lol i dont get what nahaz and bamboo were saying there, why are they nervous lol They were really hyped up, and the game fell completely flat. So they've worked themselves up to bring this energy and there's nothing to bring it to. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9489 Posts
og 22k damage | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Erasme
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nojok
France15845 Posts
The vod is already up, I watched the whole draft and the first 15 minutes I did not catch, it was outplays after outplays with an extremely snowbally line up, OG's draft was far from bad in fact but fly's ES is not cr1t's one, miracle got baited a lot and MC controleld him so well in fights, add a rusty notail's meepo on top of that and it looked like a tier 1 team against a tier 2 team. So I think OG's draft was fine but the level of execution required was way too high. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
edit : done :p | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
Notail got schooled | ||
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Asha
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Danzo
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On June 19 2016 19:04 Asha wrote: looks like a bad day for OG 6.88 is out so looks like they were just a patch team  | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 19 2016 19:05 Danzo wrote: 6.88 is out so looks like they were just a patch team The funny bit is that the "patch team" tag was somewhat accurate through most of 6.86. OG really had to rearrange a lot of how they played together, and they've found ways to adapt to several patches now. | ||
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nojok
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
jugg et lycan will destroy anything | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
The ability to gank solo farmers is just so powerful. | ||
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Asha
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Exoteric
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 19 2016 19:07 Erasme wrote: og got this lategame jugg et lycan will destroy anything Lategame won't happen at this rate and splitpushing to farm against blink lion and riki bombs does not sound too good. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
like top theres a dd lycan, just roar the ds and he will fall | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38156 Posts
so much deja vu from their manila series | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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On June 19 2016 19:13 bLzPostman wrote: Why is it always Rosh fights. I think the recent Newbee was the only team you weren't that concerned about botching Roshan fights. Some CIS teams entire calling card seems to be solid Roshan fights. It's one of those fascinating things. | ||
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Danzo
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nojok
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On June 19 2016 19:22 Danzo wrote: WTF is with these games. Best top 2 teams are playing like fucking garbage. They have high mobility heroes with very few control while beastmaster and lion are the top priority target, it can only turn into a clusterfuck once the few lockdowns are used or removed from the fight. | ||
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hunter_x
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On June 19 2016 19:22 Danzo wrote: WTF is with these games. Best top 2 teams are playing like fucking garbage. eg is garbage, tose 2 teams are not lol | ||
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Danzo
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EG was garbage with Aui and Bulba. We got a new roster kiddo | ||
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Danzo
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On June 19 2016 19:38 FiWiFaKi wrote: Yep, I'm fairly certain that I play a better Lion than whatever Jerax did that game. That play is kick him out of the team worthy. How can you he be an amazing ES player but trash at lion? | ||
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Erasme
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On June 19 2016 19:38 FiWiFaKi wrote: Yep, I'm fairly certain that I play a better Lion than whatever Jerax did that game. That game is kick him out of the team worthy. judging by your previous posts, you're worthless  User was warned for this post | ||
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FiWiFaKi
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On June 19 2016 19:38 Danzo wrote: How can you he be an amazing ES player but trash at lion? No idea. But man, that was just painful to watch. I think every single crucial stun he missed. Thanks for your input E. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
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The attendance is usually like this early on in the morning from what I can tell. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 19 2016 19:45 FiWiFaKi wrote: I think that OG and TL have been brought down to earth by this series, and gives me a lot of hope for the winner of Navi and Vega. The attendance is usually like this early on in the morning from what I can tell. Those two teams have their own meta going on after playing so many series agaisnt each other in the last few weeks, it often leads to some weird games but they're still head and shoulders above na'vi or vega. | ||
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Emnjay808
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On June 19 2016 19:36 Danzo wrote: EG was garbage with Aui and Bulba. We got a new roster kiddo which still has to prove they are not garbage | ||
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nanaoei
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-you- try to execute against ET and mass zoo when your initiation depends on other people's initiation and the enemy team grouping tightly. it's such a fast-paced game and there were enough items on the field that bristle is the only one who can afford to tank spells (though he made a BKB). just watch where the fights were taking place. both parties are doing the tango in the jungle and backing off after one or two casualties of any sort. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 19 2016 19:38 Danzo wrote: How can you he be an amazing ES player but trash at lion? Chuan's Lion is godly. The rest of the hero pool he's pretty weak on. (Which teams finally started to exploit at Manila. Though a bit late.) I can't explain that either. | ||
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SinTio
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On June 19 2016 20:02 Gear 3rd wrote: The attendance is still filling. But I can't shake off the feeling that it was more hype the last 2 years. Eg and secrekt are just too big to miss as fan magnets... It's still great tho. Just love to watch dota in this setting The existence of majors and that it's just one week after one probably have a bigger impact there. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 19 2016 20:02 Gear 3rd wrote: The attendance is still filling. But I can't shake off the feeling that it was more hype the last 2 years. Eg and secrekt are just too big to miss as fan magnets... It's still great tho. Just love to watch dota in this setting Majors did not exist back then, the hype was higher for those kind of tourneys, besides it happened one week ago and Frankfurt also hosted a major. Besides liquid is half German so I think they should have a bigger fanbase than EG or secret in Germany. OG also has a very likeable team, same for na'vi and alliance. Add LGD to the mix for the East vs West story line and it was a near perfect line up. | ||
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Danzo
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On June 19 2016 19:55 hunter_x wrote: which still has to prove they are not garbage Relax, open quals coming up from them. I'm confident this new EG will be back in their game. They're still not garbage tho. Probably better than these two clown fest right now. | ||
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nojok
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On June 19 2016 20:13 Danzo wrote: Relax, open quals coming up from them. I'm confident this new EG will be back in their game. They're still not garbage tho. Probably better than these two clown fest right now. That's some very high level fandom. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On June 19 2016 20:13 Danzo wrote: Relax, open quals coming up from them. I'm confident this new EG will be back in their game. They're still not garbage tho. Probably better than these two clown fest right now. we will see. as of right now, na dota is trash. | ||
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Danzo
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On June 19 2016 20:18 hunter_x wrote: we will see. as of right now, na dota is trash right now. DC looks ok. Can't say they're trash. | ||
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hunter_x
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trash in the sense, that they only have one or two decent teams. | ||
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Danzo
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To be fair Idk why we are talking about EG. I was talking about OG and Liquid and this other guy brought up EG. ** | ||
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Danzo
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On June 19 2016 20:19 hunter_x wrote: trash in the sense, that they only have one or two decent teams. Ok | ||
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On June 19 2016 20:21 bluzi wrote: Moon... wtf was thiS? he just got your hawk , you are low.... that some of the worst brain farts i ever seen in Dota He was like this the last game as well. Kid is burned out. | ||
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I dont feel the ticking time bomb at all. | ||
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nojok
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On June 19 2016 20:43 Kreb wrote: Im pretty sure liquid can fight a 6slot Naga... They can and naga farms a lot but inefficiently in the sense she often let creeps get a lot of last hits and misses a lot of XP, it could come back to bite OG. Though I think naix could afford a midas. | ||
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Liquid are clearly losing on second glance. | ||
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On June 19 2016 20:53 Danzo wrote: Damn this Slark hits like a truck. Using agis to feed him some essence shifts was maybe not the best move, he also had a bit of dazzle left. | ||
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EDIT: At this point, OG better fear they'll burn out before TI6 :D | ||
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Asha
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OG seem to have liquids number for now then EDIT: At this point, OG better fear they'll burn out before TI6 :D This is totally what will happen Still won't be surprised if none of the top 4 teams of the last couple of months make top 4 at TI lol | ||
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On June 19 2016 21:03 lolfail9001 wrote: Gratz OG, another tournament in a streak. EDIT: At this point, OG better fear they'll burn out before TI6 :D Signs already showing. | ||
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On June 19 2016 21:06 Aurrius wrote: OG is on a another level in terms of Plays and i dont think that Liquid will reach this level at the right time (TI 6). Liquid wasted their chances in game 2 and also this game, it is not as if OG is unbeatable, Liquid just kind of mess up every time | ||
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
On June 19 2016 20:13 Danzo wrote: Relax, open quals coming up from them. I'm confident this new EG will be back in their game. They're still not garbage tho. Probably better than these two clown fest right now. way too obvious troll... way too obvious i give you a 3/10 just for trying | ||
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Latham
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Can't really order from home as I don't have any cash on me and the drivers don't take card >_>; | ||
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On June 19 2016 21:19 Faruko wrote: you really need to take 2+ hours to get some food ? Isnt it to give some rest for the second finalist? | ||
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the bear jew
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On June 19 2016 21:05 nojok wrote: Gratz on the tournament win OG. Naga is still the most boring hero out there. It's not over till it's over. And the games between Navi were close for a while, and hell, maybe Vega will surprise us all. All the teams are good enough you can't get cocky, that's asking for a loss. | ||
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Xialos
Canada508 Posts
On June 19 2016 22:21 a_flayer wrote: Is it just me or is Dendi not really playing that well on the timber? lol it's you, he's carrying hard. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 19 2016 22:49 MaCRo.gg wrote: Does navi have late game? I'd say they have it. They can't win this game, but they have late game. | ||
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Also Vega seem to play sloppier when they're trying to go on the offensive. First the aegis, and because they go for Dendi they can't kill him and they position in a way that plays into Na'Vi's AoE it looks like. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 19 2016 22:53 kju wrote: wat only 900 gold That's about 300 more than i've expected tbh. | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On June 19 2016 22:51 lolfail9001 wrote: I'd say they have it. They can't win this game, but they have late game. slark out carries slardar and beastmaster out carries batrider right? only reason i see is puck is pretty much his coil. | ||
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kju
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On June 19 2016 22:54 lolfail9001 wrote: That's about 300 more than i've expected tbh. because they're so far behind in overall networth? | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38156 Posts
...can't even take a t3 or force buyback 5v4 =D | ||
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
On June 19 2016 22:56 babysimba wrote: 6 slottes timber now carries harder than 6 slotted slark. Casually buffing any late game hero by 10+ armor will have the same result. GJ icefraud. slark has been broken for like a year and you bitch about a hero thats been op for like 1 month ? | ||
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Asha
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CIS dota always delivers | ||
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On June 19 2016 23:00 shizaep wrote: 28/1 vs 23/2 what a game lol Any reason why he suicided? Didn't see that he was running low on health. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On June 19 2016 23:01 Lucumo wrote: Any reason why he suicided? Didn't see that he was running low on health. Misclick probably. | ||
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rebdomine
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or maybe he tried to heal ditya ra? | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40186 Posts
On June 19 2016 23:04 TheTenthDoc wrote: No idea why Vega changed tactics from "kill supports + Slardar" to "suicide trying to kill Timber" and lost the game Actually they targetted supports first in last fights. Simply went from killing slardar to killing timber. Did not work out, apparently armor is a good thing toi have. | ||
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Baggage
Hong Kong593 Posts
On June 19 2016 22:56 babysimba wrote: 6 slottes timber now carries harder than 6 slotted slark. Casually buffing any late game hero by 10+ armor will have the same result. GJ icefraud. As broken as Timber is, that's a very narrow minded perspective on what happened. Na'vi had a lineup with multiple sources of damage/controls and disables. Slark was insanely fed and led the networth, but his team had absolutely nothing. It was cute with the refreshers/puck aghs, but at the end of the day you have to be able to deal damage and follow up. The support on Vega was simply dying way too fast and in the last couple fights they tried to jump on Timber for some bizarre reason. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On June 19 2016 23:06 Latham wrote: Henceforth this game will be know as CIS: Clash of the Raid Bosses (and 8 other plebs) Basically CIS doto continuing to be best doto. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
and even more when navi realized that "hey we just need 300 hexes and gg" | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
CIS doto is indeed best doto | ||
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On June 19 2016 23:24 Hassybaby wrote: Having 30+ Bloodstone charges also tends to help with your survival, a 4k guy once told me Well, it used to when it gave HP regen. | ||
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On June 19 2016 23:37 rebdomine wrote: why did artstyle walk into that lol why is artstyle walking into everything | ||
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On June 19 2016 23:40 TheTenthDoc wrote: This DotA is shifting into maximum overclown Could you call it clown9 type here, or is it beyond clown9? | ||
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On June 19 2016 23:39 Nymzee wrote: if navi get to the final and put up a fight vs OG are they guaranteed TI invite? I'd be really surprised if they didn't get an invite regardless of what happens now. | ||
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On June 19 2016 23:57 nojok wrote: Nice try with the supernova, if the hook was slightly earlier the slardar stun would have perfectly chained and then the supernova. cool idea but the execution was extremely questionable | ||
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vega is like t2,5~, i'd say Navi are t1.5 currently. | ||
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CIS doto best doto, as I tend to say a lot. | ||
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On June 20 2016 00:05 Vertical wrote: lets go Na'Vi grab your first trophy without puppey 2nd trophy. 1st one was the D2CL 2015 with FNG. | ||
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On June 20 2016 00:35 Latham wrote: This Independence Day trailer.. I must've seen it so many times this weekend that it has not only turned me off from seeing the film in cinemas, but also makes me want to pirate it, burn it on a CD and then promptly smash that CD with a sledgehammer. Haters gonna hate. Hyped to watch it on the premiere, been a long time since I've watched a proper popcorn flick | ||
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On June 20 2016 00:11 Nymzee wrote: i think OG win 3-0 vs Navi tbh vega is like t2,5~, i'd say Navi are t1.5 currently. They probably will 3-0 NaVi but Vega is not T2.5 On June 20 2016 00:27 honeylover wrote: 2nd trophy. 1st one was the D2CL 2015 with FNG. That one doesn't count. | ||
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On June 19 2016 23:51 SinTio wrote: I'd be really surprised if they didn't get an invite regardless of what happens now. Yeah, they are the 3rd best team in Europe right now. They should get an invite. | ||
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On June 20 2016 01:05 DropBear wrote: ESL poll: Which region has the highest salt content? All the options are North America haha Was on reddit today. Apparently we've got a salt shipment coming from Peter Dager later today as well | ||
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Some C grade Bruce Buffer copy screaming into the mic. Great job ESL, really.... | ||
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On June 20 2016 01:13 Steelavocado wrote: I get the ESL finals, GOT, and game 7 for my CAVS all on one sunday. What a time to be alive. Buy a lottery ticket. :O | ||
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Miracle-: What a day, I don't need to look for kills, kills came to me *.* | ||
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On June 20 2016 01:38 Snakesneaks wrote: should TA shit on invo this hard ? yes | ||
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On June 20 2016 01:50 CosmicSpiral wrote: It's scary how well OG knows the limits of their heroes. and then they overstay their welcome | ||
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against a friccking NaVI!!! | ||
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Hey, you gotta feel yourself when you're dominating this hard. | ||
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On June 20 2016 01:58 CosmicSpiral wrote: Hey, you gotta feel yourself when you're dominating this hard. well, maybe they simply wanted to take off their hands from the keyboard | ||
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On June 20 2016 02:01 Latham wrote: Why do people make dragon lance but never upgrade to hurricane pike? They're just picking it up for the stats and attack range. 14 strength and agility + attack range for 1900 gold is really useful. Hurricane pike costs another 2k gold, it just isn't as useful as building to other items. W33 even built dragon lance for the stats alone (when it was +15 instead of +14) when he was playing meepo against CoL. Also, for TA the bonus attack range is pretty important. It gives even more range than 3 points in psi blades. | ||
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is there even a crowd? | ||
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On June 20 2016 02:53 babysimba wrote: For once, notail is carrying the team so freaking hard Go watch the semi`s vs Liquid | ||
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OG TL NaVi Vega So imbalanced. | ||
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On June 20 2016 02:56 Jaeger wrote: Man this bracket is a joke. OG TL NaVi Vega So imbalanced. Maybe TL shouldn't have come 2nd in their group then. | ||
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On June 20 2016 02:56 Jaeger wrote: Man this bracket is a joke. OG TL NaVi Vega So imbalanced. If you only understand how the bracket were drawn.... | ||
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Wow. | ||
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i didnt think penix was that OP but during the last 2 days ive changed my mind lol... | ||
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On June 20 2016 03:13 Papercappu wrote: screw phoenix the real hero here is naix. useless nerf The real nerf must be done to armlet. | ||
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Iplaythings
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On June 20 2016 03:10 Racket wrote: Its funny how the panel says that was NaVi's best opportunity to take a game off of OG having no clue of why OG picked those heroes, OG clearly knew what they were doing. It's easier for the weaker team to win in these "wtf is happening" games than in the standard games Pretty sure it was by that logic rather than "OG is just disrespecting/trolling" | ||
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On June 20 2016 03:08 Kipsate wrote: well atleast this should be good enough to secure na`vi an invite to TI right CIS is as much of a dumpster fire as NA so why not | ||
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Or the Manila Majors for that matter... | ||
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Racket
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On June 20 2016 03:16 Iplaythings wrote: It's easier for the weaker team to win in these "wtf is happening" games than in the standard games Pretty sure it was by that logic rather than "OG is just disrespecting/trolling" It was indeed that logic, but it was based on "we know nothing about OG's draft so we say it makes no sense".. five minutes into the game and it make perfect sense. Yeah, they talk 'cause that is their work. Edit: Also, they weren't trolling, imo at least. | ||
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On June 20 2016 03:20 Racket wrote: It was indeed that logic, but it was based on "we know nothing about OG's draft so we say it makes no sense".. five minutes into the game and it make perfect sense. Yeah, they talk 'cause that is their work. Edit: Also, they weren't trolling, imo at least. Yeah, Kunkka is just a disruptor type hero, works best on the offensive. And trolling that game? Nope! This game? I'm not sure yet. | ||
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so far not working out so well. | ||
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On June 20 2016 03:49 ref4 wrote: hahha if Navi loses this i don't and can't even I would give OG decent odds at taking it. | ||
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They are not wrong. | ||
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still great for navi, should give them a secured ti invite. but those are some sad grand finals... | ||
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On June 20 2016 03:37 ref4 wrote: 3 - 0 shutout is too boring, Good Guys OG want it to be a 3 - 2 In that case they can pick a no stun lineup, featuring mid techies and jungle bloodseeker. | ||
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clearly its some meta to make navi go on tilt. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:00 Artisreal wrote: I'm not feeling the carry Riki. Can anyone enlighten me on his impact? It's humiliation. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:00 Artisreal wrote: I'm not feeling the carry Riki. Can anyone enlighten me on his impact? its a support riki | ||
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only by virtue of getting clowned on early | ||
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On June 20 2016 03:55 Kipsate wrote: I dont like this facelss void build If DIffusal was before Manta, it would make sense. In general, pros are putting too much emphasis on Manta as a "standard item". | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:10 Zea! wrote: Ditya Ra raped by support riki lol Core riki* | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:10 Zea! wrote: Ditya Ra raped by support riki lol it's a carry Riki, | ||
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navi found out how to use their heroes. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:15 Salazarz wrote: I actually feel like if Na'Vi manage to win this game they'd actually have a good chance at the series, maybe that's just wishful thinking though lolz more than wishful thinking | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:15 Salazarz wrote: I actually feel like if Na'Vi manage to win this game they'd actually have a good chance at the series, maybe that's just wishful thinking though lolz this is OG just fucking around and they're winning lul I don't think Navi can even touch OG in a serious game | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:15 Salazarz wrote: I actually feel like if Na'Vi manage to win this game they'd actually have a good chance at the series, maybe that's just wishful thinking though lolz Guess we won't find out | ||
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they cant win game like this seriously | ||
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FFGenerations
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they would have won with a few decent chronos and NOT MISSED spells but too late | ||
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On June 20 2016 04:19 Thetwinmasters wrote: Can we send na'vi to open qualifiers for losing to carry riki Check out riki's pub winrate, that's not nearly as bad as losing to single core n0tail (until 40 minutes). | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:16 ref4 wrote: this is OG just fucking around and they're winning lul I don't think Navi can even touch OG in a serious game Na'Vi is playing well below their usual level too, though. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:21 Xendarii wrote: I'm here at ESL One. Can confirm this is too embarassing to take. OG trolling and winning the game... Wow... lol | ||
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Almost flawless performance. Notail definitely stepped up his carry play over the last tournaments! | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:23 bluzi wrote: Fuck those casters , Notail carried this game so hard and they talk about miracle again.... jesus Seriously. Crit carried game 1+2 and NoTail carried game 3, so IDK. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:21 Salazarz wrote: Na'Vi is playing well below their usual level too, though. Doesn't matter, they clearly aren't in the same stratosphere as OG right now, even their absolute best wouldn't be good enough. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:21 Salazarz wrote: Na'Vi is playing well below their usual level too, though. That's what playing against far better opponents does. | ||
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i'd be cyka blyat all over. | ||
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ESL needs to do bo7 finals so we can get more climactic games | ||
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Idk what it says about the gulf between Na'vi and Tier One teams at the moment when OG gives a huge handicap like that and you can't win. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:26 Papercappu wrote: is this going to be the worse TI ever Secret was invincible in the time leading up to TI5, look at how that turned out. Things can change. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:28 blobrus wrote: Secret was invincible in the time leading up to TI5, look at that turned out. Things can change. OG have no Arteezy so i doubt ANYTHING can happen in the next month | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:30 Kipsate wrote: OG can only fall apart of Miracle gets severely ill or something. Yep, let's keep pretending that Miracle- wins them every game. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:28 blobrus wrote: Secret was invincible in the time leading up to TI5, look at how that turned out. Things can change. Secret vs EG game from last year's final was pretty close though & the game was felt very high level. this year felt like everyone is terrible & sloppy plays all around | ||
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Germany120 Posts
On June 20 2016 04:30 Pacifist wrote: I think Newbee and Liquid can definitely beat OG any day in a BO3/BO5, and I'm saying this as a big OG fan. I dont think that Liquid can beat them. You just have to look at the Draft from Liquid at the Manila Major Final and today. At Manila Slardar again and again and today Riki. And if this doesnt work Liquid loses a Series. It feels like that the Hero Pool is too limited for Liquid. | ||
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France15845 Posts
On June 20 2016 04:32 Papercappu wrote: Secret vs EG game from last year's final was pretty close though & the game was felt very high level. this year felt like everyone is terrible & sloppy plays all around What? OG plays the highest level of dota ever and liquid and newbee are not so far behind. | ||
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Papercappu
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On June 20 2016 04:34 nojok wrote: What? OG plays the highest level of dota ever and liquid and newbee are not so far behind. i disagree. i dont think they're even close to Secret 2.0 at their peak. i actually think in term of plays newbee are the best right now | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:32 Papercappu wrote: Secret vs EG game from last year's final was pretty close though & the game was felt very high level. this year felt like everyone is terrible & sloppy plays all around Well you criticising OG for being terrible is funny , you sure have your agenda as 5 posts above you predict the worst TI eve , why ? what is the problem with OG ? they play Kunkka mid and Carry Riki , why are you complaining ? this Major had more heroes played then any other Valve event ? could it be because your fav teams are playing like shit ? or you have some Dota reasons for the things you say? curious.... | ||
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nanaoei
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soo useful for someone like me who missed some games. | ||
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neozxa
Indonesia545 Posts
On June 20 2016 04:32 Papercappu wrote: Secret vs EG game from last year's final was pretty close though & the game was felt very high level. this year felt like everyone is terrible & sloppy plays all around i think its just because og liquid and newbee are all just on a different level than most teams nowadays. | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
On June 20 2016 04:41 bluzi wrote: Well you criticising OG for being terrible is funny , you sure have your agenda as 5 posts above you predict the worst TI eve , why ? what is the problem with OG ? they play Kunkka mid and Carry Riki , why are you complaining ? this Major had more heroes played then any other Valve event ? could it be because your fav teams are playing like shit ? or you have some Dota reasons for the things you say? curious.... where did i say OG was terrible? im saying the competitions are terrible. some teams are only relevant because of cheesy heroes or push strats | ||
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Zea!
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
http://www.dota2.com/international/announcement/ | ||
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neozxa
Indonesia545 Posts
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Zea!
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korendir
Singapore259 Posts
On June 20 2016 05:04 Kipsate wrote: Invites are out boys http://www.dota2.com/international/announcement/ Nice, a lot less invites than expected, which is probably a good thing. Who are those teams in the americas region, i only recognize DC and COL. lol A little surprised that MVP got invited over fnatic seeing their results are pretty similar recently, or am i mistaken? | ||
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
On June 20 2016 05:07 Zea! wrote: Only two spots for Europe? BULLSHIT Europe got three invites. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
I think he's talking about the qualifier Spots. Looking bad for alliance;) | ||
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Evander Berry Wall
United States1137 Posts
On June 20 2016 06:18 Salazarz wrote: Is it just me or this schedule feels insanely rushed? Like, of course everyone is expecting quals etc but announcing open qualifier dates literally 1 day before they start feels kinda crappy. Not that it matters to me personally of course, lol Ever since Shanghai took place in March, it's been guaranteed that something was going to be rushed somewhere. The entire Spring Major-TI6 period feels crunched together. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On June 20 2016 05:08 korendir wrote: Nice, a lot less invites than expected, which is probably a good thing. Who are those teams in the americas region, i only recognize DC and COL. lol A little surprised that MVP got invited over fnatic seeing their results are pretty similar recently, or am i mistaken? MVP has won lans, Fnatic has not. | ||
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