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Sn0_Man
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![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/commons/images/thumb/1/1d/Manilamajor.jpg/800px-Manilamajor.jpg) Thursday, May 05 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Manila_Major/2016/Main_Qualifiers/Americas ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vursH.png)  BTS Multi Stream | BTS 2 BTS 3 | BTS 4Casters & Hosts: MultiCast Hosts - Sheever | Kotl Guy | SirActionSlacks | Nahaz ODPixel | LD | Fogged | Drasykl ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2EGwEAn.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jgmCp.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H5LzV.png) Click Me | ||
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On May 06 2016 03:17 Faruko wrote: i was thinking about copy+paste but i had to go to the bathroom this op has html u'd need to trim some stuff o well | ||
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On May 06 2016 03:39 Sloke wrote: so will this be a 15:0 qualifier for DC ? FDL's gonna 2-0 them tho :^) That w33 TP was perfect. | ||
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Wind lace ? smh icefraud, smh. | ||
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Remind me of the aui-eg situation. | ||
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On May 06 2016 03:48 Danzo wrote: W33 is so solid, I'm still confused why they kicked him over Arteezy. Any good mid would look like a God against these NA teams. | ||
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On May 06 2016 03:43 wims80 wrote: Who is calling the shots for DC? Is it Misery? I think so. | ||
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Sn0_Man
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On May 06 2016 04:05 Pandemona wrote: Lol i had this thread done TT just put it in LR resources and didn't post it cuz im strange rofl we still wub u | ||
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DO YOU WANNA BUILD A SNOWMAN <33 | ||
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I'd assume not but who knows | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:11 Sn0_Man wrote: any1 know if void time dilation works on potm aghs starfall? I'd assume not but who knows I'd assume if oct core doesn't then time dilation shouldn't. | ||
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comes with a tp gets nothing gets jumped chronos defensively runs away decides, hey this chrono's actually not half bad goes back in dies | ||
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sand king going ham | ||
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 show us the carryyy | ||
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NA DOTA | ||
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zai "now here's a topic of discussion. Who do you think tilted?" | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:24 Dysisa wrote: Zai killing it on commentary rn zai's so good actually | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:26 GumBa wrote: BEESA TIME not sure how ready they'll be that series was a bit short u nkow | ||
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I want Zai to just cast everything ever from now on | ||
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we must sacrifice to the Highland Gods edit: nvm DC already faced FDL yesterday, I just missed that series. Hopefully FDL put up a better fight in their series | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:27 Kabras wrote: i think i said this before but i actually fear that this is horrible practice for dc... hope they don't get shocked when they meet a good team, whenever that's gonna be. Well they can scrim against EG I guess or other teams when their players are not in the US. | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:34 Sn0_Man wrote: fdl tilted yesterday i still have faith Did they tilt like dragneel tilted tho? I mean, facing a much stronger team can have that effect | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:37 Sn0_Man wrote: sum1 poke yung goz on steam he requested it already on it | ||
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grant's not a factual person | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:35 turpentine wrote: Did they tilt like dragneel tilted tho? I mean, facing a much stronger team can have that effect No. They crumbled in the lanes; showed some good life in the mid game, but ultimately were too far behind to ever threaten a win. Like even being impossibly behind they took some good teamfights. But then at the same time there was a lot of desperation feeding, especially in game 2. It's scary that FDL could end up playing DC 3 times (Pools, Winner's Final, Final Finals). | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:38 Sn0_Man wrote: hes 17 atm i think lol but yeah young grant's not a factual person Oh hahaa xd | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:38 Logo wrote: It's scary that FDL could end up playing DC 3 times (Pools, Winner's Final, Final Finals). ya, I'm rooting for B-Carry all the way, but facing a stronger team that many times makes pulling off the upset pretty hard (which is kind of the point of the system I guess, it just fucks with our favorite :p) But first things first: beating Shazam! GO FDL | ||
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On May 06 2016 04:34 emperorchampion wrote: Does anyone know who DC has been scrimming? EG or Euro teams? They seem way ahead of the NA meta. if i had to guess i'd say eg. mainly cuz they all live in the us and scrimming with 150 ping disadvantage isn't only really hard, it's also unrepresentative. also i see quite a bit of ppd's game plan in their play. immediate counter gank every single time, always move with enough heroes for a kill, get objectives, be patient, don't throw. that said tho it is possible that they sandbagged on eu scrimms for a month and now even ping games against worse teams are a walk in the park. | ||
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FDL has done really well with it, and looking at trackdota, DC also banned it twice | ||
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this fdl draft is weird | ||
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the cs battle is going pretty good for fdl tho | ||
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jayyyy dabbleyou On May 06 2016 04:59 Faruko wrote: the cs battle is going pretty good for fdl tho lich hero xd | ||
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*inclined sleepy head twitch emote* tho I'm being unfair they're pushing with the ench | ||
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what a god | ||
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and beesa PLAYING THE CARRY you're not supposed to let this man freefarm | ||
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Looked like disruptor deliberately showed mid to make Beesa think it was safe to go on spectre, but I don't think it was deliberate because TC tped out in a hurry and it took a few seconds for slardar to arrive | ||
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i thought they would have been overrun by shazam there | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:18 Logo wrote: This game seems pretty dire for FDL. The shame of losing to a Spectre with 6k networth at 22 minutes would be too much .eventually invoker will just get doomed | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:23 ahswtini wrote: jesus where is that dmg coming from Forge Spirits + Amp Damage + Right clicks from Invoker & Enchantress. | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:25 BurningSera wrote: yup is over isn't it, you picked such line up and played like retards now the game is over. The game is definitely not over... | ||
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how is it not over?? the doom is literally there to ult, lich is shit, the mid/dk is shit, wd is also shit, slark also cant do much shit either. if beesa got spec maybe they can come back | ||
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everything seems normal | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:10 Logo wrote: FDL needs to work on their Roshan awareness. They seem caught off guard a lot by Rosh timings. Though it's always so hard to tell if they should know or not as a spectator. again! | ||
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Like slark can't maneouver on the outside of fights and shazam have crush/disruptor/invoker aoe shit that is so much stronger in the pit whereas FDL has 0 aoe They'd rather just let it go. | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:36 Sn0_Man wrote: rosh is a really bad area for FDL Like slark can't maneouver on the outside of fights and shazam have crush/disruptor/invoker aoe shit that is so much stronger in the pit whereas FDL has 0 aoe They'd rather just let it go. Yeah but they aren't taking the trades when they let it go. If they knew Rosh was going down they could at least barrel down a lane and take the trade. Instead they're all grouped up trying to bait Shazam. | ||
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i doubt they can even comfortably defeat tryhard stack in MM. DC and Shazam are the top2 in this NA qual, and those two will get rekt so hard in the major, so imagine the quality of this game | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:40 BurningSera wrote: yup, you picked line up like that didnt utilize them at all in early game, this is 2016 comon. i doubt they can even comfortably defeat tryhard stack in MM. DC and Shazam are the top2 in this NA qual, and those two will get rekt so hard in the major, so imagine the quality of this game no doubt no tryhard mm stacks registered for the open qualifiers | ||
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and also kick brax too, jesus christ | ||
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y wud beesa play with awful players like shazam | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:41 Sn0_Man wrote: no doubt no tryhard mm stacks registered for the open qualifiers is actually quite true, because tryhard stack have time for pub but most of them won't actually play tournament. but my point was more on 'comfortably defeating' | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:43 Sn0_Man wrote: alright well there's some collapsing occuring here y wud beesa play with awful players like shazam at least they have an actual mid player and supports who know how to support (just about), | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:45 Pandemona wrote: FDL seem ok at laning but team fight, oh boy they got no synergy for me. They've shown really good teamfight in other games, but this draft didn't really come together for taking teamfights. They seem pretty weak to disruptor play from the games of theirs I've watched, he just dumps on the way they like to pace out and take fights. | ||
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You can't put a spectre 0-6 and still get rolled by a slardar xd | ||
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If they can get a better draft that'd be nice E: g2 draft starting the same lol | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:47 Pandemona wrote: Oh ok maybe was just this game then, but Charlie summed it up for me. Had a good timing with items and didn't do anything with them due to terrible fights You can't put a spectre 0-6 and still get rolled by a slardar xd Shazam played the fights really well though; they realized they could back out due to FDL's weak initiation and string FDL out before taking the fights. Then if FDL tried to disengage themselves they could just glimpse someone back in. | ||
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On May 06 2016 05:45 turpentine wrote: Isn't FDL a tryhard stack anyway, just some friends, some boys playing dota? Why so much hate. CC&C is like 12 years old, he's just a kid not hate, just hate seeing another year of TI without beesa | ||
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i wonder if he's OK with this medusa is the ck counter fyi | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:01 BurningSera wrote: beesa go mid medu he wont cuz he doesn't like mid and ccnc can't play safelane but i think that's the best lane for the hero in general | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:00 Sn0_Man wrote: BEESA MEDUSA lololol i wonder if he's OK with this medusa is the ck counter fyi I remember when CK rekt Medusa tho. EG vs Vega, y'know. | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:04 Kabras wrote: why would u pick a stat hero against et. why would u make that stat hero be dusa against mana drain and amp damage. ugh. beesa gonna probably rush a manta which kinda solves amp damage but not really and even then there's other shit to worry about. if fdl win this im done At least for Dusa, if she can avoid the mana drain, mana shield will take some of the edge off of the massive -armor Shazam is going to put out. I don't know that anyone is really going to have enough armor to be in good shape vs natural order + amp damage. | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:04 Kabras wrote: why would u pick a stat hero against et. why would u make that stat hero be dusa against mana drain and amp damage. ugh. beesa gonna probably rush a manta which kinda solves amp damage but not really and even then there's other shit to worry about. if fdl win this im done what carry would you have picked? i was thinking about dusa aswell before FDL picked her | ||
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doom will buy vlads dp will buy shivas it'll be fine | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:06 Logo wrote: At least for Dusa, if she can avoid the mana drain, mana shield will take some of the edge off of the massive -armor Shazam is going to put out. I don't know that anyone is really going to have enough armor to be in good shape vs natural order + amp damage. how does she avoid anything every single hero on shazam has a stun. the only way they win anything is if she sees the jump coming and casts ult before the first disable so shazam wastes a couple disables but that's a really long shot to make it ur game plan. | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:07 TRAP[yoo] wrote: what carry would you have picked? i was thinking about dusa aswell before FDL picked her pl, can't remember if he was banned or not but shazam's lineup is crap against illusions, especially ones that move really fast. even tanky terrorblade build to try and survive the disables then turn around with the sunder would have been a much better plan than dusa i think. | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:16 ahswtini wrote: wtf arent tower shots supposed to wake slept heroes no they specifically dont | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:16 ahswtini wrote: wtf arent tower shots supposed to wake slept heroes I think only hero damage awakes them. | ||
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Although u can probably save teammates with it so that's good | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:22 ahswtini wrote: diffusal for amplify dmg?? For DPS mostly I think. The purge can be used to catch slardar I guess. | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:22 ahswtini wrote: diffusal for amplify dmg?? i think it's to protect the dp from the hex. if they dont burst dp they're prolly fucked | ||
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Without a lot of control the diffusal should be nice to catch out heroes without committing lasso or cask. That's the big one to me. Shazam can't continuously disengage against diffusal. Also Rosh . | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:24 ahswtini wrote: idk i dont think diffusal is a dps item for medusa Why not? 40 mana burn and 25 agi for a total of 65 dmg, some int, attack speed, armor and purge. Not a tank item though, which I like. | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:29 Yurie wrote: Why not? 40 mana burn and 25 agi for a total of 65 dmg, some int, attack speed, armor and purge. Not a tank item though, which I like. Also the option for +10 agi +5int for 700g which is pretty good. | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:35 ZeaL. wrote: CC is always out of position. Really can't move on with plays like that literally a player who happens to sit on mid lane, he is not a mid player at all. | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:46 turpentine wrote: FDL's 5v5 seemed much stronger from the fight where they won even without CC&C at the start, they just had that feeding phase--CC&C's 11 years of age showing dude at the rate that guy's losing years he's gonna be an unborn child playing mid by the end of this series | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:47 Sn0_Man wrote: dude at the rate that guy's losing years he's gonna be an unborn child playing mid by the end of this series LMAO --- shazam's chase is too good | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:47 Sn0_Man wrote: dude at the rate that guy's losing years he's gonna be an unborn child playing mid by the end of this series CC&C, the toddler prodigy | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:46 Sn0_Man wrote: alright kabras r u done or wat what if they had a pl or a tb the game would've been over by now. i will give beesa credit for being smart enough to not build stats and go diffusal ac tho. also the game's not over as you can see. it's still dusa against a bunch of dusa counters. | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:51 Kabras wrote: nvm he went skadi fdl lost Linken + Skadi, two items that costs a ton and adds 40 dmg. The diffusal gives more damage than those two combined. The items are fine if one isn't the DPS source... | ||
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On May 06 2016 06:53 Yurie wrote: Linken + Skadi, two items that costs a ton and adds 40 dmg. The diffusal gives more damage than those two combined. yea that's what i was saying, he's not supposed to build stats against that team. and that's already a large handicap since u need stats for the mana shield else ur much better off picking another carry. | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:04 ahswtini wrote: why doesnt ck have 3 skadis guys He is a bad CK that's why /s | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:06 Sn0_Man wrote: I think you are overestimating the amount of pressure 1 rax is at this point. you can afford to be down a set Yes but it is a big deal that the creep wave is pushing. It is easy for them to push it out but it also forces their positioning so it is easy for FDL to get close to top rax without heavy investment. | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:08 ahswtini wrote: wish cameraman had buyback status up instead of networth blitzdota stream, with zai | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:12 Aceace wrote: It may sound crazy but i really think Beesa should sell his boots and buy another item. Really. Nice prediction. | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:12 turpentine wrote: Are FDL right to bank everything on high ground defense now, or should they be attempting a smoke or some kind of movement? Not sure they have any smokes left. They have been using plenty of them. They don't want to fight when Aegis is up. | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:16 Procake wrote: IS this patch just prone to 60+ minute games? No it isn't. We are seeing teams with low experience in high stake games. They either don't dare to end the game and drag them out or mess up and the game drags on. Most of these 60 min games is one team messing up royally after being able to finish at latest 40 min with safe play. | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:16 Procake wrote: IS this patch just prone to 60+ minute games? Far less heavy jungling and more dual-lanes are happening. It encourages 2-3 full core lineups. So dragging a game out is always a Win Condition for most drafts right now. It's the reason we're seeing super fast & really long games. Oh, and there's a few more Late-game items that are helpful. | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:17 Logo wrote: Dusa does tons of damage, she's just disabled for 80% of these fights. She got 3 hits off and nearly killed all of Shazam. She has literally 200 right click damage 70 minutes in. No, the only target she was even close to killing is Slardar with amplify damage on him. And now Slardar bought AC so it won't work either. | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:17 Logo wrote: Dusa does tons of damage, she's just disabled for 80% of these fights. She got 3 hits off and nearly killed all of Shazam. Highest DPS item on Dusa is diffusal blade 75 min in. They don't have a second late game DPS source. | ||
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don't see how this will work vs DC | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:20 broodmann wrote: Whats the point in using Dusa ult at the same time as BKB? Seems like an incredible waste To not waste bkb. Her ult slows, you know. | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:22 lolfail9001 wrote: To not waste bkb. Her ult slows, you know. Ye, it also makes everyone run away instead of casting spells on her rending the magic immune completely useless | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:23 broodmann wrote: Ye, it also makes everyone run away instead of casting spells on her rending the magic immune completely useless what about the 4 teammates that u need to protect | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:24 ChunderBoy wrote: what about the 4 teammates that u need to protect glhf man. focus on the game, not some rando on the forums. you got this. | ||
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And roast themselves while they're at it lmao | ||
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On May 06 2016 07:47 plasmidghost wrote: Holy shit this panel is some fucked up shit Was that last question an indirect attack on Zyori? He seem really uncomfortable now. | ||
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"only place for one king" | ||
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"Not the Wraith King" 3 seconds later the WK is Lasso'd. | ||
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On May 06 2016 10:22 plasmidghost wrote: There's still a chance It's not over till the ancient falls. | ||
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NADOTA THE KING | ||
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On May 06 2016 11:10 Sbrubbles wrote: On one hand, I want to cheer for the team with a brazillian. On the other, I don't want to cheer for the team with Sneyking. Dota feelings are complicated Meh, Mason and sneyking are both assholes and I heard hfn is toxic as well. But if we got a BR player in the major this could open so many opportunities. Pretty much what happened in the CS scene. I know fallen have a HUGE impact in the scene, but it all started with the opportunity to play the major qualifiers. | ||
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On May 07 2016 03:09 GumBa wrote: Blitz Cap and EGM casting this as well :D Where? I only hear maut + some guy | ||
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https://www.twitch.tv/blitzdota | ||
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On May 07 2016 03:36 Sn0_Man wrote: man DC are giving shazam a beating Well, comeback did happen. | ||
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On May 07 2016 04:25 lolfail9001 wrote: behold the might of the ThunderCatWait, how Morph wins mid against W33ranger? | ||
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 #neverqualify | ||
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On May 07 2016 06:21 Sn0_Man wrote: Wonder if dragneel are still on tilt DC will outtilt them tbh,. | ||
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On May 07 2016 06:29 lolfail9001 wrote: I am safely betting after this round nobody will want to play under DC banner. It's cursed to choke in qualifiers lmao It's crazy because they've been dumpstering everyone else in NA. NA always has one decent team that willl give you a run for your money. Shazam is that team. | ||
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On May 07 2016 06:31 Danzo wrote: It's crazy because they've been dumpstering everyone else in NA. NA always has one decent team that willl give you a run for your money. Shazam is that team. Yeah, that one decent team that ironically always has MSS, Brax and (since last year) SVG. | ||
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On May 07 2016 06:32 lolfail9001 wrote: Yeah, that one decent team that ironically always has MSS, Brax and (since last year) SVG. I've been wanting Brax to break out back into a good tier team for so long. I really hope they go to the majors. | ||
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On May 07 2016 07:20 Procake wrote: Okay so game 2 is starting now, they are all in apparently. Why the fuck did Dragneel not just play 5v4 considering Mason came back literally 2 minutes after they gg'd out? Probably cause they didn't know when he would come back and you can't buy items with disconnected heroes. | ||
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On May 07 2016 07:24 the bear jew wrote: Probably cause they didn't know when he would come back and you can't buy items with disconnected heroes. Yeah but I mean it's qualifying for a major, anything is better than gging out. | ||
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On May 07 2016 06:59 Tegenaria wrote: Btw, Shazam is 5 - 0 with Elder Titan on this qualifier, i hope too see more team using him Definitely need more ET in pro dota. | ||
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On May 07 2016 07:52 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, i thought Mason was back, how come draft is for Shazam vs DC rematch? They just forfeited. NA Dota drama. | ||
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On May 07 2016 07:52 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait, i thought Mason was back, how come draft is for Shazam vs DC rematch? He lost internet again. | ||
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On May 07 2016 09:24 PhoenixVoid wrote: The Dragon Knight wielding the Dragon Lance. He is the Dragon King. | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:04 Nymzee wrote: these american quals are a joke pretty much a full EU team is gonna win the American qualifier lmao Well Moo gets a good team! So....at least there is that. | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:09 the bear jew wrote: Well Moo gets a good team! So....at least there is that. That archon team that was registered before the bans and moo leaving could've won this qualifier | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:12 caiovigg wrote: That old archon team could've won this qualifier Old Archon wasnt a bad team! | ||
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Well, they're one really good week was during the Shanghai Qualifiers. That was pretty much it. | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:04 Nymzee wrote: these american quals are a joke pretty much a full EU team is gonna win the American qualifier lmao A half major winning team wins the major quals. Region is a joke... | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:23 Danzo wrote: DC looks better than most EU teams. I know everyone wants to makes jokes about how bad NA team is, but Shazam was looking very strong as well. I think DC may even look better than teams like Vega and Secret. Yeah, the European qualifier could have been the same way if secret were forced to go through qualifiers because of their roster change. | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:23 Voronoff wrote: A half major winning team wins the major quals. Region is a joke... I think the joke is that a European team abused the system to get through the American qualifiers. I think DC could maybe have gotten through the EU qualifiers, they seem like a good team, so it's not about "NA Dota is trash" or whatever. | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:25 FuzzyJAM wrote: I think the joke is that a European team abused the system to get through the American qualifiers. I think DC could maybe have gotten through the EU qualifiers, they seem like a good team, so it's not about "NA Dota is trash" or whatever. Well, Sunsfan had a mostly USA team 4 days before roster lock. It's a US-based organization, even if it's a 4 European roster now. | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:25 nojok wrote: Yeah, the European qualifier could have been the same way if secret were forced to go through qualifiers because of their roster change. I really don't think that Secret would have dominated the european qualifiers in the same way DC could do it in the AM Qualifier. Empire and Vega showed that they can win against the best on a good day and DiG/AF were very close to this two teams. I don't think any of the teams in this NA Qualifier beside DC could do this. | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:23 Danzo wrote: DC looks better than most EU teams. I know everyone wants to makes jokes about how bad NA team is, but Shazam was looking very strong as well. I think DC may even look better than teams like Vega and Secret. anyone can look good running push strats against terrible NA teams | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:31 Taf the Ghost wrote: Well, Sunsfan had a mostly USA team 4 days before roster lock. It's a US-based organization, even if it's a 4 European roster now. I don't really see the relevance given that if the old team had played in the AM qualifier, nobody would be saying it was a joke. DC picked up a new roster and the new one is a European team. And that European team gaming the system and qualifying through the Americas qualifier isn't cool. | ||
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On May 07 2016 10:39 FuzzyJAM wrote: I don't really see the relevance given that if the old team had played in the AM qualifier, nobody would be saying it was a joke. DC picked up a new roster and the new one is a European team. And that European team gaming the system and qualifying through the Americas qualifier isn't cool. Seemed to work with Mousesports during the TI5 qualifiers amirite? What are we supposed to do? Region lock pro players? Complexity has three Swedes on their team, Beesa and sLiCKz aren't American either. Moonmeander did the opposite and went to Europe and went through "the hard way" if that's what you're calling it. Or how about ChuaN playing for a Chinese team instead of competing in SEA? | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On May 07 2016 10:55 M.S.Bismarck wrote: Seemed to work with Mousesports during the TI5 qualifiers amirite? What are we supposed to do? Region lock pro players? Complexity has three Swedes on their team, Beesa and sLiCKz aren't American either. Moonmeander did the opposite and went to Europe and went through "the hard way" if that's what you're calling it. Or how about ChuaN playing for a Chinese team instead of competing in SEA? Players who play in different regions because that's where the majority of their teammates happen to be is fine. I don't understand how you can fail to see a difference from that and a team that deliberately abuses the system and joins a region that isn't their natural one because they think it's easier. And that they can fail (e.g. Mouz, as you say) doesn't change the intention, which is the problem. In terms of solutions, that's hard because some teams might legitimately want to move to a different region (e.g. most NA team Secret, or ye olde LGD.int). I'm not suggesting that Valve can fix this. All I'm saying is that it's a joke. That's it. Not everything in the world that is a joke can be changed. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
On May 07 2016 11:03 FuzzyJAM wrote: Players who play in different regions because that's where the majority of their teammates happen to be is fine. I don't understand how you can fail to see a difference from that and a team that deliberately abuses the system and joins a region that isn't their natural one because they think it's easier. And that they can fail (e.g. Mouz, as you say) doesn't change the intention, which is the problem. Yeah, because "abusing the system" was clearly their intention and you have proof to back that up. Misery chatting up his teammates on Skype and going "Hey boys, lets move to North America and wreck some scrubs. EZ qualifier win." W33 replys "Yeah, let's do this, fam." | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On May 07 2016 11:23 M.S.Bismarck wrote: Yeah, because "abusing the system" was clearly their intention and you have proof to back that up. Misery chatting up his teammates on Skype and going "Hey boys, lets move to North America and wreck some scrubs. EZ qualifier win." W33 replys "Yeah, let's do this, fam." Misery actually did basically say this in an interview. But w/e, if you want to think a bunch of Euros moved to America for the weather then that's up to you. | ||
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shouldbeworking
946 Posts
But w/e, if you want to think a bunch of Euros moved to America for the weather then that's up to you. The weather is fucken nice here though. Honestly, I understand the concern of Dota2 becoming similar to SC2 or LoL. However, as it is right now the scene is still very diverse and competitive. If it was all about money then the only region that should be worried is SEA. This is assuming Dota2 teams becomes like other sports (soccer) and big organizations with money just poach the best players. It is better this way, because eventually if that was the case NA will no longer be the "easy" region. I think it already has progressed a lot. We have 3 competitive teams now instead of just 1. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On May 07 2016 11:03 FuzzyJAM wrote: Players who play in different regions because that's where the majority of their teammates happen to be is fine. I don't understand how you can fail to see a difference from that and a team that deliberately abuses the system and joins a region that isn't their natural one because they think it's easier. And that they can fail (e.g. Mouz, as you say) doesn't change the intention, which is the problem. In terms of solutions, that's hard because some teams might legitimately want to move to a different region (e.g. most NA team Secret, or ye olde LGD.int). I'm not suggesting that Valve can fix this. All I'm saying is that it's a joke. That's it. Not everything in the world that is a joke can be changed. The origin of the player has no meaning , its where the org is from and where the players play from , if they all live in the USA and play for a US org why on earth should they compete for EU qualifier ? its gets tricky ill say if they only have a US org but all are based in euro , but in DC case its kinda ez to see why they should play out of NA. | ||
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Cybuster
Canada99 Posts
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ChunderBoy
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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