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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 13 2016 10:43 GMT
#181
I'd say outdraft. Puck was not the hero that game. Ds too. Artstyle stubborn with his drafts.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 13 2016 10:44 GMT
#182
On January 13 2016 19:43 75 wrote:
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On January 13 2016 19:42 babysimba wrote:
On what stream is the other game being played

http://www.twitch.tv/dotastarladder_en2

Thanks. It's not on the side bar
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44171 Posts
January 13 2016 10:44 GMT
#183


ok so this is reborn shit again

like the last time during nanyang where they did use their real nicks
this is a quote
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 13 2016 10:44 GMT
#184
to be fair Dendi fed FB to Sumail mid, something that never should happen and really impacts Puck more then it does Sumail.
WriterXiao8~~
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 10:46:23
January 13 2016 10:45 GMT
#185
On January 13 2016 19:44 Kipsate wrote:
to be fair Dendi fed FB to Sumail mid, something that never should happen and really impacts Puck more then it does Sumail.

how does ember vs puck matchup work ? (cause i don't see puck mids anymore)

i assume it's in favor of puck cause range, mobility and silence
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 10:47:17
January 13 2016 10:46 GMT
#186
On January 13 2016 19:42 Shergal wrote:
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On January 13 2016 19:41 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On January 13 2016 19:40 cloudstr wrote:
out drafted or out played?


Honestly I think they could have had a chance in the game if they hadn't all grouped around the Enigma top and lost 3 heroes for nothing, catapulting Omni and Ember in net worth and experience

Nah, even if that went better flash forward to 10 minutes later and Navi wasn't ever breaking that high-ground. They just drafted all the stuff that was specifically bad against EG's picks, no way they were winning that.


If they kill three Na'Vi heroes there, then got Rosh (which they got anyway), I think they could have pushed the bot T2 they already had low and possibly a T3. Na'Vi's team was totally ass at that point in the game at defending highground, no BF ember, Venge with 0 networth, Enigma with low level pulse, etc.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 10:47:42
January 13 2016 10:47 GMT
#187
Its in favour of Puck , bear in mind that Sonneiko also sniped the courier

The only way Sumail could get back in that mu was if Dendi gave up a kill and he did.

Navi needs to snowball with the DS SB to keep picking off people because the mid and lategame favours EG due to the amount of sustain and well Puck kinda sucks.
WriterXiao8~~
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
January 13 2016 10:47 GMT
#188
On January 13 2016 19:44 goody153 wrote:
https://twitter.com/v1lat/status/687223415636422657

ok so this is reborn shit again

like the last time during nanyang where they did use their real nicks

Yeah pretty sure Charlie makes them use official nicks as well so standard Reborn i guess.
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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 10:48:04
January 13 2016 10:47 GMT
#189
If navi had won the top teamfight, gotten rosh, and took every single tower, I still don't know how they break highground before sumail just farms off of rattiing while his +4 hold the fort forever
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2016 10:48 GMT
#190
On January 13 2016 19:45 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 19:44 Kipsate wrote:
to be fair Dendi fed FB to Sumail mid, something that never should happen and really impacts Puck more then it does Sumail.

how does ember vs puck matchup work ? (cause i don't see puck mids anymore)

i assume it's in favor of puck cause range, mobility and silence


It's probably slightly Puck favored in normal circumstances but it's debatable. Puck has to be very careful or he'll just die outright. Have to be real slick with orb uses and on point with the silence.

ON top of that it's a Sumail Ember so...makes it even more difficult.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
January 13 2016 10:48 GMT
#191
Ok now back to 1 stream whilst i LR the SC2 games haha. Back when EG next up unless GSL finishes before
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44171 Posts
January 13 2016 10:50 GMT
#192
i wish they made it a b01 roundrobin 1 group only if they are just gonna make b01 anyways but whatever

On January 13 2016 19:47 Kipsate wrote:
Its in favour of Puck , bear in mind that Sonneiko also sniped the courier

The only way Sumail could get back in that mu was if Dendi gave up a kill and he did.

Navi needs to snowball with the DS SB to keep picking off people because the mid and lategame favours EG due to the amount of sustain and well Puck kinda sucks.

yeah that makes sense
this is a quote
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
January 13 2016 10:50 GMT
#193
i almost forget how scary full-built morphling is
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 13 2016 10:50 GMT
#194
Morph is actually such a disgusting hero this patch. How are teams not using him more lol
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 13 2016 10:51 GMT
#195
Okay, on a bigger discussion: EG's first game points to ppd thinking Sustain is going to be really important. Though that's just one approach they're going to take. In a Bo1 situation, playing a bit safer does make sense as well. And establishing some hard to deal with heroes is good for them.

Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
January 13 2016 10:52 GMT
#196
Pretty bad game between LGD and Fnatic. Whoever loses here is in trouble this group.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 13 2016 10:53 GMT
#197
On January 13 2016 19:50 babysimba wrote:
Morph is actually such a disgusting hero this patch. How are teams not using him more lol


Having the player with the most wins on the Hero helps. As he looked pretty bad in most of the qualifiers.
Voronoff
Profile Joined May 2010
United States302 Posts
January 13 2016 10:54 GMT
#198
Universe has said on stream that he believes omni and abaddon are the best offlaners. We will see serious sustain coming from EG all tournament I expect.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44171 Posts
January 13 2016 10:55 GMT
#199
On January 13 2016 19:50 babysimba wrote:
Morph is actually such a disgusting hero this patch. How are teams not using him more lol

DP+ LD lineups work simpler and snowballs better. Morphling kinda also doesn't fit on push lineups


but yeah i agree morph is legit this patch
this is a quote
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
January 13 2016 10:56 GMT
#200
2k HP, 311 agi, 350 damage, and 46 armor
seems balanced guys
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