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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#3061
EG gained an advantage in both of the games because CDEC had to use a ban on techies. CDEC still won with a handicap. Ouch.
Don't mind me
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
August 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#3062
On August 08 2015 07:27 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Razor has an amazing 13W-24L record


Is that the worst record for a hero with greater than 10 games?


Zeus is 27%
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 22:30:05
August 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#3063
On August 08 2015 07:28 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:26 Sif_ wrote:
cdec 6-0 at the main event

3-0 finals inc

Please, VG is 6-0 as well.


7-0.
It'd be super epic if they meet CDEC in Grand Finals with a 11-0.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#3064
i just want azorkan to apologize to me for calling me illogical after i said china > west
SinTio
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany871 Posts
August 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#3065
On August 08 2015 07:28 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:27 Zea! wrote:
Sad thing is that if CDEC wins this TI, then they'll be a comet, winning 7 million will mean the end of their efforts in this game lol


Why would that happen?

Sportsmen make a hell of a lot more in many others sports and don't quit.


In a hell of a lot of other sports they earn a high salary though and don't rely on a once a year tournament that you have to win for that money.
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
August 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#3066
On August 08 2015 07:27 Zea! wrote:
Sad thing is that if CDEC wins this TI, then they'll be a comet, winning 7 million will mean the end of their efforts in this game lol


I'm sure these guys must have found the game fun enough to play for years without monetary gain. Haha. I doubt that will evaporate once that check is in their hands. Or, I mean if it ends up in their hands.
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 22:30:10
August 07 2015 22:29 GMT
#3067
On August 08 2015 07:22 Frazzlehoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:19 Daralii wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:19 trinxified wrote:
is there no other translators that are more upbeat, charismatic and less monotone?

I guess Josh does a decent job but still...

Helen


Yea I really wish that they can find another Chinese translator. He does his job and translates, but he doesn't convey the same meaning and emotion that the players actually say. Such as in the Xiao8 and rOtK interviews, there are little things that the Chinese players say, but he simplifies it and takes out the emotion.


Josh is the most competent Chinese-English esports translator I've ever seen TBH, I have no idea what you're talking about. He's incredibly thorough and detailed.
TranslatorBaa!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3068
On August 08 2015 07:27 Nymzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:26 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:26 ahswtini wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:25 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:24 Elurie wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:16 Azarkon wrote:
This game wasn't even a matter of CDEC out play. It was a matter of loss from the pick and then the choice to make bounty the off player.

Who the fuck is behind CDEC?

On August 08 2015 06:49 Azarkon wrote:
This is what PPD pick against bounty.

On August 08 2015 06:41 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2015 06:40 Lackbleeder wrote:
PPD's gotta have some plan here to give away bounty lina right ?


He doesn't lose to it.

On August 08 2015 06:39 Azarkon wrote:
PPD knows how to pick against this.

On August 08 2015 01:34 Azarkon wrote:
On August 07 2015 21:33 Shergal wrote:
EG are overwhelming favorites at this point. They haven't played the best Dota in the event, but to them that's irrelevant. They will just outdraft the opposition and bore them out of the game like they always do. I don't really see any of the remaining teams beating them unless ppd chokes.


PPD's pick strategy, especially against Chinese teams, is simple:

Ban: Leshrac, Gyrocopter
Pick: Techies/Naga/Bounty

It works because no Chinese team wants to play two out of those three heroes. As such, PPD is able to get what he wants every time. And he isn't afraid of other teams getting bounty, because he knows how to play against it.

PPD wins simply because he and his players know both what to pick and how to play it. Had other teams known how to play these heroes, there'd be no issue, but they don't.


Sigh.


Until now, obviously.

story of ur career


No, this was just an out pick no one saw coming. That's why I have difficulty understanding how CDEC is able to out think PPD.

can you stop, you're embarrassing yourself


Why don't you quote yourself saying PPD is going to get out pick by CDEC then?
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3069
Whats sad for me is that PPD doesnt let FEAR a chance to carry them , pick him the PL , pick an AM , pick him something he can carry your ass , trying to outsmart yourself with those off meta picks , when teams start with the off meta it almost always fail.
wasting your #1 on a razor , a god damn razor ......that hero is bad beyond believe and has no function in the game now days.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3070
i suppose we should be grateful. someone like azarkon would never have lasted during the BW days and then we would have been deprived of so much entertainment.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3071
EVERYONE IS ROOTING FOR VG

VG VS CDEC FINALS IS THE BEST FINALS
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3072
On August 08 2015 07:29 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:27 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:22 uriel- wrote:
Wow look at all the brain dead full-on racist posts

TL in the starcraft days straight up 2-day banned these people what happened

Catering to the generic western fan for more profit.
Err... TL Dota even when it wasn't it's own site was never as strict as TL Starcraft. It's the nature of the community.

TL got a lot more strict after SC2 came around I feel. Smaller community = more troll shit allowable.
:)
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3073
On August 08 2015 07:28 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:26 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:26 ahswtini wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:25 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:24 Elurie wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:16 Azarkon wrote:
This game wasn't even a matter of CDEC out play. It was a matter of loss from the pick and then the choice to make bounty the off player.

Who the fuck is behind CDEC?

On August 08 2015 06:49 Azarkon wrote:
This is what PPD pick against bounty.

On August 08 2015 06:41 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2015 06:40 Lackbleeder wrote:
PPD's gotta have some plan here to give away bounty lina right ?


He doesn't lose to it.

On August 08 2015 06:39 Azarkon wrote:
PPD knows how to pick against this.

On August 08 2015 01:34 Azarkon wrote:
On August 07 2015 21:33 Shergal wrote:
EG are overwhelming favorites at this point. They haven't played the best Dota in the event, but to them that's irrelevant. They will just outdraft the opposition and bore them out of the game like they always do. I don't really see any of the remaining teams beating them unless ppd chokes.


PPD's pick strategy, especially against Chinese teams, is simple:

Ban: Leshrac, Gyrocopter
Pick: Techies/Naga/Bounty

It works because no Chinese team wants to play two out of those three heroes. As such, PPD is able to get what he wants every time. And he isn't afraid of other teams getting bounty, because he knows how to play against it.

PPD wins simply because he and his players know both what to pick and how to play it. Had other teams known how to play these heroes, there'd be no issue, but they don't.


Sigh.


Until now, obviously.

story of ur career


No, this was just an out pick no one saw coming. That's why I have difficulty understanding how CDEC is able to out think PPD.

You have difficulty understanding a lot of things tbh


And you don't? Explain it then.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3074
Fuck eg you guys lost too fast. I wanted at least an interesting series
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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3075
On August 08 2015 07:24 SinTio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:21 Erasme wrote:
CDEC so goddamn confident they can waste a ban on techies

To be honest, they have 0-4 record against techies.


So first stage Techies pick in the finals against them, easy win?

edit: assuming they didn't ban first phase, I didn't actually see that


eg is 3-0 vs ehome/cdec using techies
they are 1-4 without it

so yes, cdec is first stage banning techies and it is a good ban
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3076
"best fight" haha good one merlini
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#3077
On August 08 2015 07:27 AT.Epiphany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:24 pyro19 wrote:
I think CDEC understands the Phantom Lancer as a hero much better than everybody else. They are the only team I see who don't use PL as an AFK farmer until he gets his Diffusal Blade.


It's not just that.

I'm simply unable to understand what's so special about this team (There is no question that something is).

They are just stomping every team on the planet with what looks like a simple, solid, basic strategy that they use every single game. I can't for the life of me understand how they destroy every team the moment a team-fight starts.

The only thing I can think of is that these are actually the best players in the world and because of politics nobody in China realized how good they were.

I've heard Aggresif and Shiki have the highest MMRs in China server? Maybe all it needs is good coordination plus very good individual skill?


They're out smarting people. Every day they play the smarter the look.
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Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 07 2015 22:31 GMT
#3078
On August 08 2015 07:30 pedrlz wrote:
EVERYONE IS ROOTING FOR VG

VG VS CDEC FINALS IS THE BEST FINALS

You, sir, you know where it's at.

*Tips the hat*
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
August 07 2015 22:31 GMT
#3079
On August 08 2015 07:30 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:29 teapoted wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:27 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:22 uriel- wrote:
Wow look at all the brain dead full-on racist posts

TL in the starcraft days straight up 2-day banned these people what happened

Catering to the generic western fan for more profit.
Err... TL Dota even when it wasn't it's own site was never as strict as TL Starcraft. It's the nature of the community.

TL got a lot more strict after SC2 came around I feel. Smaller community = more troll shit allowable.
Yeah I'm referring to TL Starcraft during the same time.
Once you Goblak...
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 07 2015 22:31 GMT
#3080
On August 08 2015 07:30 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 07:28 dmnum wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:26 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:26 ahswtini wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:25 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:24 Elurie wrote:
On August 08 2015 07:16 Azarkon wrote:
This game wasn't even a matter of CDEC out play. It was a matter of loss from the pick and then the choice to make bounty the off player.

Who the fuck is behind CDEC?

On August 08 2015 06:49 Azarkon wrote:
This is what PPD pick against bounty.

On August 08 2015 06:41 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2015 06:40 Lackbleeder wrote:
PPD's gotta have some plan here to give away bounty lina right ?


He doesn't lose to it.

On August 08 2015 06:39 Azarkon wrote:
PPD knows how to pick against this.

On August 08 2015 01:34 Azarkon wrote:
On August 07 2015 21:33 Shergal wrote:
EG are overwhelming favorites at this point. They haven't played the best Dota in the event, but to them that's irrelevant. They will just outdraft the opposition and bore them out of the game like they always do. I don't really see any of the remaining teams beating them unless ppd chokes.


PPD's pick strategy, especially against Chinese teams, is simple:

Ban: Leshrac, Gyrocopter
Pick: Techies/Naga/Bounty

It works because no Chinese team wants to play two out of those three heroes. As such, PPD is able to get what he wants every time. And he isn't afraid of other teams getting bounty, because he knows how to play against it.

PPD wins simply because he and his players know both what to pick and how to play it. Had other teams known how to play these heroes, there'd be no issue, but they don't.


Sigh.


Until now, obviously.

story of ur career


No, this was just an out pick no one saw coming. That's why I have difficulty understanding how CDEC is able to out think PPD.

You have difficulty understanding a lot of things tbh


And you don't? Explain it then.

some ppl dont try to act like the ultimate authority on something
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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