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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 06 2015 22:11 GMT
#2401
On August 07 2015 07:07 Nymzee wrote:
RTZ is easily the best carry in the world

but it means fuck all when you're vs an ES lina lane and your support is a shadow shaman lmao

He's a huge talent but if this tournament hasn't had you question where you rank players you either aren't watching or aren't thinking.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 06 2015 22:11 GMT
#2402
Also Illidan's Silencer got respect-banned. I called that it wouldn't be like... 3 pages ago.
kiss kiss fall in love
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 06 2015 22:11 GMT
#2403
On August 07 2015 07:09 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:06 babysimba wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:04 lolnoty wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:03 babysimba wrote:
That enigma pick means you need to sac the luna and come back in the mid game, but silencer last pick fuck that up too

the rhasta could have easily helped luna in a 1v1 vs earth shaker

There was lina. Fissure into LSA = goodbye to your 450hp luna or rhasta

I don't mean dual vs dual, lina roamed off offlane and rhasta was doing ?? while ES was gankable

The game still doesnt work that way. Just because you don't see lina on the map doesnt mean he's not nearby.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 06 2015 22:11 GMT
#2404
On August 07 2015 07:08 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:04 lolnoty wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:03 babysimba wrote:
That enigma pick means you need to sac the luna and come back in the mid game, but silencer last pick fuck that up too

the rhasta could have easily helped luna in a 1v1 vs earth shaker


It was a 2v1. The Silencer pick allowed fng to rotate to the offlane to help Phobos.

kuroky could have definitely helped arteezy's lane but was getting caught constantly by es+lil overextending while the equilibrium was near tier 1. i really felt kuroky especially had a bad game, not a bad hero.


At that point Shadow Shaman has almost nothing to counter-initiate against Fissure + Slave/LSA. He needs...I dunno, level 4 to reliably do anything.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 06 2015 22:11 GMT
#2405
VP should try to cancerlancer for one shot of GLOOORRRRYY!
kiss kiss fall in love
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 06 2015 22:11 GMT
#2406
On August 07 2015 07:08 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:05 Darpa wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:03 pellejohnson wrote:
No wonder EG didn't want to keep RTZ on the team. No matter how things end up I doubt secret will stick together. Can't have cancerous players in a successful team


We get it, you dont like RTZ, feel free to stop at any point.

This is a good post formulation I'm glad it comes out every time RTZ is criticized.

Yeah he's one of the world's most talented players but I'll say it again: this version of RTZ is never going to win TI.


Why dont you read his last 5 posts. They literally all say the same thing and there is nothing relevant in them except trying to troll. Criticize him all you want. I dont care, but dont post the same thing repeatedly trying to get a rise out of someone.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
August 06 2015 22:12 GMT
#2407
Hopefully secret doesn't pick SF. I can't see it working out well against lina and shaker.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
August 06 2015 22:12 GMT
#2408
Even if they beat VP clearly they got no chances vs the chinese.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
August 06 2015 22:12 GMT
#2409
On August 07 2015 07:07 Nymzee wrote:
RTZ is easily the best carry in the world

but it means fuck all when you're vs an ES lina lane and your support is a shadow shaman lmao

Ive started adding "fuck all" to my vocabulary too. Ever since Witcher
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 06 2015 22:12 GMT
#2410
And Zai can just play DS+Tusk+Broodmother
The Real Power~
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
August 06 2015 22:12 GMT
#2411
VP NEEDS DK NO FLAME BREATH TO BEAT SECRET, DO IT FNG, JUST DO IT
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
August 06 2015 22:12 GMT
#2412
On August 07 2015 07:03 Daralii wrote:
I can taste the disband.

Arteezy and Zai to C9 gogo



That would actually be the best. lol
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 22:13:32
August 06 2015 22:12 GMT
#2413
On August 07 2015 07:10 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:09 lolnoty wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:06 babysimba wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:04 lolnoty wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:03 babysimba wrote:
That enigma pick means you need to sac the luna and come back in the mid game, but silencer last pick fuck that up too

the rhasta could have easily helped luna in a 1v1 vs earth shaker

There was lina. Fissure into LSA = goodbye to your 450hp luna or rhasta

I don't mean dual vs dual, lina roamed off offlane and rhasta was doing ?? while ES was gankable

es was never gankable, puppey didn't level stun early and rhasta + luna can't 100-0 him before he just fissures and walks away

yeah I think they definitely could with 1 hex and shackle/beam/walking down, even then it would get him to fuck off slightly so rtz could get near a creep wave. kuro wasn't even controlling pulls the wave was sitting near river

rtz is right to be asking what the fuck kuro was doing
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#2414
On August 07 2015 07:07 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:07 bagels21 wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:03 pellejohnson wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:02 babysimba wrote:
It's 100% on the draft.


Then again so was the first game of the series and you didn't see VP trying to kill each other in the booth

Haven't these guys played together for a long time though? I guess that is something that comes with experience.


VP in this iteration have played together for less than a year

Okay, I take that back. Did these guys know each other well before that?


sorta, I'm sure they scrimmed together; basically they booted Mag and added God; had a stand-in after Na'Vi poached Dkphobos and then grabbed him back after that 1 month trial lol
Stalemilk
Profile Joined August 2012
204 Posts
August 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#2415
On August 07 2015 07:11 IntoTheheart wrote:
Also Illidan's Silencer got respect-banned. I called that it wouldn't be like... 3 pages ago.


Even flax called that ban...
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#2416
Am i watching repeat with kky on good hero now?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#2417
My imagination of how the talks went ' Kuro you played like shit! Kuro: Well give me something I can play then instead of stupid shaman!' And now we have rubick
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 22:13:52
August 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#2418
QoP excellent mid pick against VP right now.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#2419
On August 07 2015 07:11 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:08 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:04 lolnoty wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:03 babysimba wrote:
That enigma pick means you need to sac the luna and come back in the mid game, but silencer last pick fuck that up too

the rhasta could have easily helped luna in a 1v1 vs earth shaker


It was a 2v1. The Silencer pick allowed fng to rotate to the offlane to help Phobos.

kuroky could have definitely helped arteezy's lane but was getting caught constantly by es+lil overextending while the equilibrium was near tier 1. i really felt kuroky especially had a bad game, not a bad hero.


At that point Shadow Shaman has almost nothing to counter-initiate against Fissure + Slave/LSA. He needs...I dunno, level 4 to reliably do anything.

fng wasn't even in lane for that long though. he would roam occasionally but es was definitely isolated for a period while fng was running between middle to top.
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
August 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#2420
On August 07 2015 07:11 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:07 Nymzee wrote:
RTZ is easily the best carry in the world

but it means fuck all when you're vs an ES lina lane and your support is a shadow shaman lmao

He's a huge talent but if this tournament hasn't had you question where you rank players you either aren't watching or aren't thinking.

even in this tournament he's the best carry

imo it's rtz > fear > hao thus far
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