• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:52
CET 01:52
KST 09:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview11Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win0RSL Season 4 announced for March-April5Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April HomeStory Cup 28 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) KSL Week 85 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Let's Get Creative–Video Gam…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2316 users

[TI5] Main Event Day 4 - Page 119

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 117 118 119 120 121 288 Next
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2361
RTZ is easily the best carry in the world

but it means fuck all when you're vs an ES lina lane and your support is a shadow shaman lmao
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2362
On August 07 2015 07:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:03 pellejohnson wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:02 babysimba wrote:
It's 100% on the draft.


Then again so was the first game of the series and you didn't see VP trying to kill each other in the booth

Haven't these guys played together for a long time though? I guess that is something that comes with experience.


VP in this iteration have played together for less than a year
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2363
On August 07 2015 07:03 pellejohnson wrote:
No wonder EG didn't want to keep RTZ on the team. No matter how things end up I doubt secret will stick together. Can't have cancerous players in a successful team


EG did want to keep rtz and zai....

Ppd has said multiple times that the iteration of EG with rtz/zai was stronger than its current iteration.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 22:07:54
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2364
On August 07 2015 07:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Arteezy was pretty aggrevated discussion with Kuroky after the game on the podcam

[image loading]

Remind me something.
[image loading]
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2365
Rtz raging at kuro gave me TI3 flashbacks lol
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2366
well it looks like all doom and gloom but lets hope secret can come back!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2367
On August 07 2015 07:05 opterown wrote:
Poll: Recommend VP vs. Secret Game 2?

Yes (41)
 
87%

If you have time (3)
 
6%

No (3)
 
6%

47 total votes

Your vote: Recommend VP vs. Secret Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No


ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2368
On August 07 2015 07:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:05 Azarkon wrote:
Arteezy left on his own but it was obvious they were no longer able to play together.

Come to think of it, had PPD not found Sumail, they'd have had a big problem, because Sumail does work for the team.

Was Arteezy always solo-farming and doing his own thing while PPD + company wanted to teamfight and work together? I can't seem to remember.


Arteezy wanted to play for late. PPD wanted to win early. That was the difference I think.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2369
On August 07 2015 07:07 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:04 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:03 pellejohnson wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:02 babysimba wrote:
It's 100% on the draft.


Then again so was the first game of the series and you didn't see VP trying to kill each other in the booth

Haven't these guys played together for a long time though? I guess that is something that comes with experience.


VP in this iteration have played together for less than a year

Okay, I take that back. Did these guys know each other well before that?
kiss kiss fall in love
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 22:08:08
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#2370
On August 07 2015 07:07 Nymzee wrote:
RTZ is easily the best carry in the world

but it means fuck all when you're vs an ES lina lane and your support is a shadow shaman lmao

I mean, even i learned that rhasta was shitty solo lane support when i was abusing him and dp for mmr few weeks before TI4.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
August 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#2371
Phobos doesn't nearly get enough credit, he has been playing his best this tourney.
My esports soul belongs to: Boxer | White-Ra | Daigo Umehara | Nazgul | IceFrog
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
August 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#2372
VP needs to win this for CIS scene, they need to prove that scene is more than puppey.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#2373
On August 07 2015 07:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:04 lolnoty wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:03 babysimba wrote:
That enigma pick means you need to sac the luna and come back in the mid game, but silencer last pick fuck that up too

the rhasta could have easily helped luna in a 1v1 vs earth shaker


It was a 2v1. The Silencer pick allowed fng to rotate to the offlane to help Phobos.

kuroky could have definitely helped arteezy's lane but was getting caught constantly by es+lil overextending while the equilibrium was near tier 1. i really felt kuroky especially had a bad game, not a bad hero.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
August 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#2374
On August 07 2015 07:06 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:05 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:02 Mensol wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:01 Zea! wrote:
Arteezy should just shut the fuck up and start carrying

As if he can carry.

He is all about Puppey and Kuroky.

You know he's won tournaments with all three teams he's been on, yeah?

Arguing with mensol is about as much of a waste of time as arguing with azarkon

your PL icon made me think you were Azarkon for a sec
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
August 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#2375
waOW first pick lina
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
August 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#2376
On August 07 2015 07:06 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:05 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:02 Mensol wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:01 Zea! wrote:
Arteezy should just shut the fuck up and start carrying

As if he can carry.

He is all about Puppey and Kuroky.

You know he's won tournaments with all three teams he's been on, yeah?

Arguing with mensol is about as much of a waste of time as arguing with azarkon

and this post comes from the biggest rtz fan on LD, who surprised?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#2377
Just first draft Tusk Techies, why not
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#2378
On August 07 2015 07:05 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:03 pellejohnson wrote:
No wonder EG didn't want to keep RTZ on the team. No matter how things end up I doubt secret will stick together. Can't have cancerous players in a successful team


We get it, you dont like RTZ, feel free to stop at any point.

This is a good post formulation I'm glad it comes out every time RTZ is criticized.

Yeah he's one of the world's most talented players but I'll say it again: this version of RTZ is never going to win TI.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
August 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#2379
Incoming techies. I expect some cancer from Secret.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 22:09 GMT
#2380
On August 07 2015 07:08 pedrlz wrote:
VP needs to win this for CIS scene, they need to prove that scene is more than puppey.

Puppey is not even CIS outside of being Navi member for few years.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Prev 1 117 118 119 120 121 288 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
WardiTV Mondays #71
CranKy Ducklings77
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft545
Nathanias 134
ProTech6
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 622
Shuttle 61
NaDa 18
910 17
yabsab 9
Dota 2
syndereN400
monkeys_forever79
League of Legends
C9.Mang0334
Counter-Strike
taco 388
Super Smash Bros
PPMD52
Other Games
summit1g11059
shahzam474
Maynarde115
Temp060
Livibee49
PiLiPiLi2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick932
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 87
• davetesta35
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21348
League of Legends
• Stunt281
Other Games
• imaqtpie1532
• Shiphtur217
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
11h 8m
PiGosaur Cup
1d
WardiTV Invitational
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RongYI Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-02
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.