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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 06 2015 06:39 GMT
#7261
On August 06 2015 15:37 blobrus wrote:
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On August 06 2015 15:36 stuchiu wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:35 Reson wrote:
As long as people admit that EG is boring...

EG is super strong.


That last game was more boring than any bl/infestor SH game I saw.

Ok now you're taking it too far. That era literally turned me off from sc.


if a majority of dota2 games were like this I'd never watch dota2 again.
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Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 06:40:28
August 06 2015 06:39 GMT
#7262
On August 06 2015 15:36 lolnoty wrote:
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On August 06 2015 15:35 Reson wrote:
As long as people admit that EG is boring...

EG is super strong.

I mean if you completely take the map from your enemy and farm farm farm, why is it EG's fault if the enemy is content to let them farm? It would be throwing if they just decided to CIS it up when their enemy is offering the entire map.


I have no problem with how they play. I think it's smart, disciplined, and takes skill to execute. I have a problem with people calling it boring when teams not EG do the same thing.

IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 06 2015 06:39 GMT
#7263
why are people discussing EG as a team, take sumail away and this draft gets utterly shrekt, this was ridiculous 1 man pressure, QO playing lanaya yesterday didn't do nearly the same despite the better score, this was...annoying.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
August 06 2015 06:39 GMT
#7264
On August 06 2015 15:34 lolnoty wrote:
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On August 06 2015 15:33 mutantmagnet wrote:
I understood why Razor worked so well during that Sven and Dazzle game but I'm wondering f EG would've been more effective with a different hero. Was Razor drafted mostly to strengthen their laning stage?

they wanted a self sustain safelaner that can handle dual lanes. razor was one of the options



On August 06 2015 15:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:
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On August 06 2015 15:33 mutantmagnet wrote:
I understood why Razor worked so well during that Sven and Dazzle game but I'm wondering f EG would've been more effective with a different hero. Was Razor drafted mostly to strengthen their laning stage?

Laning stage, pushing power, and anti-PL.



Ok so the laning stage was important but Razor needed to be useful beyond that. I think Razor is questionable as an answer for PL because if you break even or fall behind PL will eventually wreck you. The Windranger pick felt like a more inspired answer for PL.


On August 06 2015 15:35 bagels21 wrote:
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On August 06 2015 15:33 mutantmagnet wrote:
I understood why Razor worked so well during that Sven and Dazzle game but I'm wondering f EG would've been more effective with a different hero. Was Razor drafted mostly to strengthen their laning stage?


Razor can push and can fight a tough lane (phoenix/ww) as they drafted SB which needs a strong ranged partner



Speaking SB support what I really liked about this draft was how they countered Storm Spirit. He likes to dive and kill off the supports. That's very hard to do when they are elusive and durable as SB and bounty hunter.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4553 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 06:41:13
August 06 2015 06:39 GMT
#7265
On August 06 2015 15:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:35 Reson wrote:
As long as people admit that EG is boring...

EG is super strong.


That last game was more boring than any bl/infestor SH game I saw.


Let's not overexaggerate.

Though tbh, SC2 becoming complete shit to watch for 6 months is what made me play Dota in the first place, so I can't complain too much.
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
August 06 2015 06:40 GMT
#7266
On August 06 2015 15:37 Supamang wrote:
EG are like the Spurs of dota. Consistent, team oriented, top tier execution, but boring in many peoples eyes.

Spurs are anything but consistent . They have a good keeper in lloris. Soldado is shit and Adebayor is a waste of cash. Only Kane,loris,vertongen(I'm a fan of him) and eriksen is consistent
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 06:42:29
August 06 2015 06:40 GMT
#7267
On August 06 2015 15:40 shad2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:37 Supamang wrote:
EG are like the Spurs of dota. Consistent, team oriented, top tier execution, but boring in many peoples eyes.

Spurs are anything but consistent . They have a good keeper in lloris. Soldado is shit and Adebayor is a waste of cash. Only Kane,loris,vertongen(I'm a fan of him) and eriksen is consistent


Hes talking about the San Antonio spurs + Show Spoiler +
who like EG are super fun to watch. And its not their play style that people harp on so much as the fact that their players dont rock tat sleeves and do shit like this



. Even if he wasnt. This is a dota thread.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 06 2015 06:40 GMT
#7268
As long as Universe is on EG , they will almost never be completely stomped out of games. The guy is THE best offlaner in the world IMO. Never loses his lane , farms like a maniac and can make plays after plays if Sumail gets shut down.

Teams need to focus on both Sumail and Universe to shut down EG in my opinion. Either of them can wreck a team by their own if they have a good game.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Bandino
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
August 06 2015 06:40 GMT
#7269
On August 06 2015 15:40 shad2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:37 Supamang wrote:
EG are like the Spurs of dota. Consistent, team oriented, top tier execution, but boring in many peoples eyes.

Spurs are anything but consistent . They have a good keeper in lloris. Soldado is shit and Adebayor is a waste of cash. Only Kane,loris,vertongen(I'm a fan of him) and eriksen is consistent


I think he meant the basketball team.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 06 2015 06:40 GMT
#7270
over-exaggerate is a redundant phrase and triggers me

kind of like irregardless
posting on liquid sites in current year
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
August 06 2015 06:41 GMT
#7271
On August 06 2015 15:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:35 Reson wrote:
As long as people admit that EG is boring...

EG is super strong.


That last game was more boring than any bl/infestor SH game I saw.

western team cannot be boring
only chinese can be boring

west win = super tactic very smart clean play wp wp wp wp usa usa usa
-Terran-
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 06 2015 06:41 GMT
#7272
On August 06 2015 15:39 mutantmagnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:34 lolnoty wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:33 mutantmagnet wrote:
I understood why Razor worked so well during that Sven and Dazzle game but I'm wondering f EG would've been more effective with a different hero. Was Razor drafted mostly to strengthen their laning stage?

they wanted a self sustain safelaner that can handle dual lanes. razor was one of the options



Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:33 mutantmagnet wrote:
I understood why Razor worked so well during that Sven and Dazzle game but I'm wondering f EG would've been more effective with a different hero. Was Razor drafted mostly to strengthen their laning stage?

Laning stage, pushing power, and anti-PL.



Ok so the laning stage was important but Razor needed to be useful beyond that. I think Razor is questionable as an answer for PL because if you break even or fall behind PL will eventually wreck you. The Windranger pick felt like a more inspired answer for PL.


Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:35 bagels21 wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:33 mutantmagnet wrote:
I understood why Razor worked so well during that Sven and Dazzle game but I'm wondering f EG would've been more effective with a different hero. Was Razor drafted mostly to strengthen their laning stage?


Razor can push and can fight a tough lane (phoenix/ww) as they drafted SB which needs a strong ranged partner



Speaking SB support what I really liked about this draft was how they countered Storm Spirit. He likes to dive and kill off the supports. That's very hard to do when they are elusive and durable as SB and bounty hunter.


yeah the opening picks are basically a counter to SS. They pick PL into space cow which is odd because SB actually works really well against PL. PPD honestly thought this draft out really well
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
August 06 2015 06:41 GMT
#7273
On August 06 2015 15:40 shad2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:37 Supamang wrote:
EG are like the Spurs of dota. Consistent, team oriented, top tier execution, but boring in many peoples eyes.

Spurs are anything but consistent . They have a good keeper in lloris. Soldado is shit and Adebayor is a waste of cash. Only Kane,loris,vertongen(I'm a fan of him) and eriksen is consistent

Lol wrong sport. Im American, Spurs are always a basketball team first and an English football team second
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
August 06 2015 06:41 GMT
#7274
On August 06 2015 15:40 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:40 shad2810 wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:37 Supamang wrote:
EG are like the Spurs of dota. Consistent, team oriented, top tier execution, but boring in many peoples eyes.

Spurs are anything but consistent . They have a good keeper in lloris. Soldado is shit and Adebayor is a waste of cash. Only Kane,loris,vertongen(I'm a fan of him) and eriksen is consistent


Hes talking about the San Antonio spurs. Even if he wasnt. This is a dota thread.


Ok I'm confused. Thought it was the Tottenham(which is nicknamed spurs )
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 06 2015 06:42 GMT
#7275
On August 06 2015 15:39 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:36 stuchiu wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:35 Reson wrote:
As long as people admit that EG is boring...

EG is super strong.


That last game was more boring than any bl/infestor SH game I saw.


Let's not overexaggerate.

Though tbh, SC2 becoming complete shit to watch for 6 months is what made me play Dota in the first place, so I can't complain too much.

pretty much this
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
August 06 2015 06:42 GMT
#7276
Razor is good because you put an aghs, aegis, and some other defensive items on him and have him press r and stand next to the enemy buildings. EG needed a hero to siege the base with so they picked him. It has nothing to do with a "PL counter" except for the fact that he ended the game before PL became an issue.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4553 Posts
August 06 2015 06:42 GMT
#7277
On August 06 2015 15:40 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
over-exaggerate is a redundant phrase and triggers me

kind of like irregardless


You are correct, apologies for triggering xD
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 06 2015 06:42 GMT
#7278
On August 06 2015 15:41 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:40 shad2810 wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:37 Supamang wrote:
EG are like the Spurs of dota. Consistent, team oriented, top tier execution, but boring in many peoples eyes.

Spurs are anything but consistent . They have a good keeper in lloris. Soldado is shit and Adebayor is a waste of cash. Only Kane,loris,vertongen(I'm a fan of him) and eriksen is consistent

Lol wrong sport. Im American, Spurs are always a basketball team first and an English football team second

no dude, they are an attachment to boots second
posting on liquid sites in current year
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 06 2015 06:42 GMT
#7279
On August 06 2015 15:39 IshinShishi wrote:
why are people discussing EG as a team, take sumail away and this draft gets utterly shrekt, this was ridiculous 1 man pressure, QO playing lanaya yesterday didn't do nearly the same despite the better score, this was...annoying.


If EG didn't have SuMail and had someone else instead. PPD would draft to that player's strength. PPD elevates his players which is one of the main reasons why he's such a strong captain.

It is easier to appreciate other players cause they have to create more out of nothing. SuMail has been super good this tournament though, much stronger than DAC.
CAPSLOCKED
Profile Joined April 2011
563 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 06:42:40
August 06 2015 06:42 GMT
#7280
On August 06 2015 15:40 Bandino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 15:40 shad2810 wrote:
On August 06 2015 15:37 Supamang wrote:
EG are like the Spurs of dota. Consistent, team oriented, top tier execution, but boring in many peoples eyes.

Spurs are anything but consistent . They have a good keeper in lloris. Soldado is shit and Adebayor is a waste of cash. Only Kane,loris,vertongen(I'm a fan of him) and eriksen is consistent


I think he meant the basketball team.


This makes a lot more sense, since those Spurs actually win.
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