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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 04 2015 19:19 GMT
#1161
On August 05 2015 04:18 goody153 wrote:
did chen sendback clinkz ? or did it get debuffed by euls ?

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:15 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:12 goody153 wrote:


even LD actually knows that need instant disables not octarine

Clinkz goes Medallion for Roshing, coL does hardly anything with Rosh. Orchid would have been preferable to control Fear instead.


? orchid is useless against AM. Manta style bro

if clinkz get it in a certain timing .. there's a window of opportunity where clinkz can murder AM without manta

he can also use it to silence the wyvern and take away the cold embrace once am does get manta
it would have been a much better choice overall
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 04 2015 19:19 GMT
#1162
On August 05 2015 04:18 BurningSera wrote:
Poll: Your worst TI

TI5 (technology omg) (33)
 
50%

TI4 (are you American?) (16)
 
24%

TI1 (no more than 50 heroes in total) (10)
 
15%

TI3 (I bet you hate rat) (5)
 
8%

TI2 (why you navi fan?) (2)
 
3%

66 total votes

Your vote: Your worst TI

(Vote): TI1 (no more than 50 heroes in total)
(Vote): TI2 (why you navi fan?)
(Vote): TI3 (I bet you hate rat)
(Vote): TI4 (are you American?)
(Vote): TI5 (technology omg)


My god

come on
it's day2
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 04 2015 19:19 GMT
#1163
On August 05 2015 04:19 ref4 wrote:
Col fanboys DDOS?


well if they're doing that it's having the exact opposite result
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 04 2015 19:19 GMT
#1164
On August 05 2015 04:18 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I don't believe for an instant CoL would have made that play without the pauses

that sucks



I agree. In a situation like this EG was probably caught off guard by how well CoL was playing. Being hit with a long pause seems to have let EG collect themselves while also removing the hype and focus from CoL.
Logo
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 04 2015 19:19 GMT
#1165
On August 05 2015 04:19 Daralii wrote:
Two teams losing because technical issues make them tilt.


yeah thats why c9 lost LMAO
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 04 2015 19:19 GMT
#1166
--- Nuked ---
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
August 04 2015 19:19 GMT
#1167
On August 05 2015 04:14 Rocket-Bear wrote:




rofl my god so relentless


no mercy oh my god
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
August 04 2015 19:19 GMT
#1168
On August 05 2015 04:19 ref4 wrote:
Col fanboys DDOS?


If anything the pauses are really hurting CoL.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1169
On August 05 2015 04:19 plasmidghost wrote:
Screw the pauses I'm solo queueing ranked

Please provide running commentary on your game!
kiss kiss fall in love
zzdd
Profile Joined December 2010
United States484 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1170
On August 05 2015 04:18 beifru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:16 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:14 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:12 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:11 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:09 absinthfee wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:09 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:07 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:06 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:03 lolnoty wrote:
[quote]
right now they're going for items to kill AM before the WW/Naga helps, or during it. If they didn't get aghs/deso/medallion that gives the WW and Naga much easier time to respond and press buttons ruining any kill attempt


Trying to instagib AM is a legit idea, if they were gonna force the issue; not if they allow EG to split the map.

The deso is pretty useless thus far; they even took rosh without the help of the deso.

Deso is the standard for Clinkz. You murder towers and the rest of EG. Qop needed hex, not the core.


Tbh, their lineup already murders towers and rosh. Just because deso is standard for Clinkz in the current meta does not mean it is the best item in this scenario. Itemization separates the top tier carries from their peers.

Decision making separates the top tier carries from their peers as can be seen by fear, by not dying at all this game.


Arguably, decision making is a very broad term and itemization falls under it.

And once Fear gets manta, the silence is useless. And planning on him not getting manta because you win isn't a good plan.


And once AM gets MKB, butterfly is useless. So arguably no team should get butterfly. You see the fallacy in the reasoning here?

Fear won't be able to get Manta before Clinkz gets Orchid. Clinkz would have a good 7-10 minutes more pressure on the map threatening the AM.

And it might not do anything and then they stuck with a useless item.


And so the right idea is to not threaten AM at all? Okay... lets see what happens this game.

Either you go for AM or you go for the base. Col chose the base.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1171
On August 05 2015 04:18 beifru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:16 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:14 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:12 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:11 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:09 absinthfee wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:09 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:07 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:06 beifru wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:03 lolnoty wrote:
[quote]
right now they're going for items to kill AM before the WW/Naga helps, or during it. If they didn't get aghs/deso/medallion that gives the WW and Naga much easier time to respond and press buttons ruining any kill attempt


Trying to instagib AM is a legit idea, if they were gonna force the issue; not if they allow EG to split the map.

The deso is pretty useless thus far; they even took rosh without the help of the deso.

Deso is the standard for Clinkz. You murder towers and the rest of EG. Qop needed hex, not the core.


Tbh, their lineup already murders towers and rosh. Just because deso is standard for Clinkz in the current meta does not mean it is the best item in this scenario. Itemization separates the top tier carries from their peers.

Decision making separates the top tier carries from their peers as can be seen by fear, by not dying at all this game.


Arguably, decision making is a very broad term and itemization falls under it.

And once Fear gets manta, the silence is useless. And planning on him not getting manta because you win isn't a good plan.


And once AM gets MKB, butterfly is useless. So arguably no team should get butterfly. You see the fallacy in the reasoning here?

Fear won't be able to get Manta before Clinkz gets Orchid. Clinkz would have a good 7-10 minutes more pressure on the map threatening the AM.

And it might not do anything and then they stuck with a useless item.


And so the right idea is to not threaten AM at all? Okay... lets see what happens this game.

What is the Orchid timing?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5118 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1172
EG ddos to disrupt col momentum
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1173
On August 05 2015 04:18 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:17 Faruko wrote:
col pls

it's not a throw or anything, EG draft was just better.


col draft was at a disadvantage but not instaloss. They just executed it terribly and got retarded items on clinkz and qop
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1174
Looking forward to the TI5 finals in August 2016
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1175
On August 05 2015 04:18 goody153 wrote:
did chen sendback clinkz ? or did it get debuffed by euls ?

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:15 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 05 2015 04:12 goody153 wrote:
https://twitter.com/LDdota/status/628639620922675200

even LD actually knows that need instant disables not octarine

Clinkz goes Medallion for Roshing, coL does hardly anything with Rosh. Orchid would have been preferable to control Fear instead.


? orchid is useless against AM. Manta style bro

if clinkz get it in a certain timing .. there's a window of opportunity where clinkz can murder AM without manta

that is why they had wards. They never actually were in a position to kill the am. Even if they had orchid.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1176
On August 05 2015 04:19 plasmidghost wrote:
Screw the pauses I'm solo queueing ranked

Don't touch US West bro.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1177
Now that I think about it TI1 was pretty awful with very little diversity.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1178
On August 05 2015 04:15 Yurie wrote:
GAME ON

..ANNDDDD OFFF
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1179
On August 05 2015 04:19 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 04:18 BurningSera wrote:
Poll: Your worst TI

TI5 (technology omg) (33)
 
50%

TI4 (are you American?) (16)
 
24%

TI1 (no more than 50 heroes in total) (10)
 
15%

TI3 (I bet you hate rat) (5)
 
8%

TI2 (why you navi fan?) (2)
 
3%

66 total votes

Your vote: Your worst TI

(Vote): TI1 (no more than 50 heroes in total)
(Vote): TI2 (why you navi fan?)
(Vote): TI3 (I bet you hate rat)
(Vote): TI4 (are you American?)
(Vote): TI5 (technology omg)


My god

come on
it's day2


Just for lulz during these ridiculous pauses
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 04 2015 19:20 GMT
#1180
col missed their window before the 1st big pause..thats not an excuse
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