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United States47024 Posts
On August 05 2015 08:24 Azarkon wrote:
I didn't think Newbee and VG were going to be an issue; they didn't look top at all before the tournament, and indeed Newbee didn't even look top during the tournament. At best, I thought the other two Chinese teams were able to take them down, but IG is going to fail as usual, so it's down to one Chinese team.
Even if you didn't think they "weren't going to be an issue", you have to be absurdly biased to think EG's odds against them were 80/20 or better.
The only teams at TI4 that were so much worse than EG that they could have 80/20 odds against them are Arrow and NAR.
Like, if EG is the best team, and DK is slightly worse than them, if teams 3-6 are all Chinese, the odds are still stacked against EG even if EG has relatively good odds against each of them. Your chance of losing a set gets high even with good odds once you're playing a sufficient number of sets.
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On August 05 2015 08:26 plasmidghost wrote:
BM as fuck pause
lol, he got disconnected/had issues under tower, he at least waited for the kill to happen before pausing?
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On August 05 2015 08:25 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 08:24 75 wrote:On August 05 2015 08:23 Supamang wrote:On August 05 2015 08:14 hfglgg wrote:On August 05 2015 08:11 Azarkon wrote:On August 05 2015 08:09 blobrus wrote:On August 05 2015 08:08 hfglgg wrote:On August 05 2015 08:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
This year is going to go the same way as last year. Western teams looking strong only to go crashing out. Like VG and Newbee last year, china has adapted to the meta faster, and their team play will outdo individual prowess. last year western teams looked good going into ti? Yea maybe I don't remember right but I'm pretty sure most people thought EG was the sole western hope last year. And they lost to IG in the last tournament before the big one. Going into last year, even I thought the West only had an equal shot at taking it. This year IS different. The West has not lost a single tournament in the last three months. It is going to be a Western year. last year all western teams were far behind chinese and only EG who was much weaker than they are now had a shot at taking a game off of them. this year it is indeed different though, but chinese werent as far behind as you think they were. Why is it always "West vs China"? Kinda weird since Euro and America are different regions should it be West vs Eurasia? SEA vs the world
CIS vs boring calculated doto
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I feel like i'm too pessimistic but i don't see how secret are meant to win this game tbh
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On August 05 2015 08:28 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 08:25 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 08:24 75 wrote:On August 05 2015 08:23 Supamang wrote:On August 05 2015 08:14 hfglgg wrote:On August 05 2015 08:11 Azarkon wrote:On August 05 2015 08:09 blobrus wrote:On August 05 2015 08:08 hfglgg wrote:On August 05 2015 08:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
This year is going to go the same way as last year. Western teams looking strong only to go crashing out. Like VG and Newbee last year, china has adapted to the meta faster, and their team play will outdo individual prowess. last year western teams looked good going into ti? Yea maybe I don't remember right but I'm pretty sure most people thought EG was the sole western hope last year. And they lost to IG in the last tournament before the big one. Going into last year, even I thought the West only had an equal shot at taking it. This year IS different. The West has not lost a single tournament in the last three months. It is going to be a Western year. last year all western teams were far behind chinese and only EG who was much weaker than they are now had a shot at taking a game off of them. this year it is indeed different though, but chinese werent as far behind as you think they were. Why is it always "West vs China"? Kinda weird since Euro and America are different regions should it be West vs Eurasia? SEA vs the world CIS vs boring calculated doto
In that case, isn't it CIS + SEA vs. everybody else?
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these pauses 
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On August 05 2015 08:28 Unleashing wrote:
I feel like i'm too pessimistic but i don't see how secret are meant to win this game tbh
antimaga
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 05 2015 08:29 ASoo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 08:28 nojok wrote:On August 05 2015 08:25 stuchiu wrote:On August 05 2015 08:24 75 wrote:On August 05 2015 08:23 Supamang wrote:On August 05 2015 08:14 hfglgg wrote:On August 05 2015 08:11 Azarkon wrote:On August 05 2015 08:09 blobrus wrote:On August 05 2015 08:08 hfglgg wrote:On August 05 2015 08:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
This year is going to go the same way as last year. Western teams looking strong only to go crashing out. Like VG and Newbee last year, china has adapted to the meta faster, and their team play will outdo individual prowess. last year western teams looked good going into ti? Yea maybe I don't remember right but I'm pretty sure most people thought EG was the sole western hope last year. And they lost to IG in the last tournament before the big one. Going into last year, even I thought the West only had an equal shot at taking it. This year IS different. The West has not lost a single tournament in the last three months. It is going to be a Western year. last year all western teams were far behind chinese and only EG who was much weaker than they are now had a shot at taking a game off of them. this year it is indeed different though, but chinese werent as far behind as you think they were. Why is it always "West vs China"? Kinda weird since Euro and America are different regions should it be West vs Eurasia? SEA vs the world CIS vs boring calculated doto In that case, isn't it CIS + SEA vs. everybody else?
Brothers of the Dive
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Germany3128 Posts
On August 05 2015 08:29 plasmidghost wrote:
RIP my hype
You're still watching this tournament?
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On August 05 2015 08:28 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 08:24 Azarkon wrote:
I didn't think Newbee and VG were going to be an issue; they didn't look top at all before the tournament, and indeed Newbee didn't even look top during the tournament. At best, I thought the other two Chinese teams were able to take them down, but IG is going to fail as usual, so it's down to one Chinese team. Even if you didn't think they "weren't going to be an issue", you have to be absurdly biased to think EG's odds against them were 80/20 or better. The only teams at TI4 that were so much worse than EG that they could have 80/20 odds against them are Arrow and NAR.
In Dota, I feel that the best teams simply win. When Alliance was at the top, they didn't drop a single team against Chinese teams in over twenty games. Why would I just give Newbee a shot?
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On August 05 2015 08:29 wooozy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 08:28 Unleashing wrote:
I feel like i'm too pessimistic but i don't see how secret are meant to win this game tbh antimaga
Nightstalker + TA are going to murder anti-mage i feel, pre-manta.
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On August 05 2015 08:28 Unleashing wrote:
I feel like i'm too pessimistic but i don't see how secret are meant to win this game tbh
by having a fat antimage
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Vatican City State2902 Posts
On August 05 2015 08:29 wooozy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2015 08:28 Unleashing wrote:
I feel like i'm too pessimistic but i don't see how secret are meant to win this game tbh antimaga
what's antimage's winrate in the main event? only AM i remember losing has been xbox's
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