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SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3121
KK. Nice draft by RotK imo.
So zen.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3122
On August 05 2015 08:16 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 08:14 hfglgg wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:11 Azarkon wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:09 blobrus wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:08 hfglgg wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
This year is going to go the same way as last year. Western teams looking strong only to go crashing out. Like VG and Newbee last year, china has adapted to the meta faster, and their team play will outdo individual prowess.


last year western teams looked good going into ti?

Yea maybe I don't remember right but I'm pretty sure most people thought EG was the sole western hope last year.


And they lost to IG in the last tournament before the big one.

Going into last year, even I thought the West only had an equal shot at taking it.

This year IS different. The West has not lost a single tournament in the last three months. It is going to be a Western year.


last year all western teams were far behind chinese and only EG who was much weaker than they are now had a shot at taking a game off of them.


What? I remember the Americans won an entire tournament with Chinese teams. You don't do that just by being able to take a game off.

Show nested quote +

this year it is indeed different though, but chinese werent as far behind as you think they were.


We don't know yet. The top 3 Western teams are all still in the tournament. And there's no way the Chinese are so behind that they're behind the bottom Western teams. I never believed that.



c9 won a tournament against DK as well, but it doesnt make them a contender for TI.
eg was the only top tier western team last year and they constantly lost to chinese teams except the one time where they beat vg and dk 2-1 and 3-2 respectivly after being 5th out of 6 teams in the groupstage.
they were far behind the chinese competition.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3123
On August 05 2015 08:14 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 08:11 Azarkon wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:09 blobrus wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:08 hfglgg wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
This year is going to go the same way as last year. Western teams looking strong only to go crashing out. Like VG and Newbee last year, china has adapted to the meta faster, and their team play will outdo individual prowess.


last year western teams looked good going into ti?

Yea maybe I don't remember right but I'm pretty sure most people thought EG was the sole western hope last year.


And they lost to IG in the last tournament before the big one.

Going into last year, even I thought the West only had an equal shot at taking it.

This year IS different. The West has not lost a single tournament in the last three months. It is going to be a Western year.


last year all western teams were far behind chinese and only EG who was much weaker than they are now had a shot at taking a game off of them.

this year it is indeed different though, but chinese werent as far behind as you think they were.

Why is it always "West vs China"? Kinda weird since Euro and America are different regions
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3124
yeah i definitely feel like this will snowball into ehome's favor super fast after like 10 minutes
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3125
S A D B O Y S
The Real Power~
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3126
william lEE-sama
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3127
Secret wins this game, not enough teamfight by rotk and Lanaya gets rekt by AM after manta.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3128
On August 05 2015 08:22 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Ehome has cool drafts

BUT AXE

BETTER RED THAN DEAD


Night Stalker is cooler than Axe.

We already saw a ton of Axe in the last patches.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2848 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3129
On August 05 2015 08:23 Unleashing wrote:
yeah i definitely feel like this will snowball into ehome's favor super fast after like 10 minutes

me too but I suck so hard at dota so I'm usually wrong
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 04 2015 23:23 GMT
#3130
rotk back2back TIs
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 04 2015 23:24 GMT
#3131
On August 05 2015 08:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 08:16 Azarkon wrote:
What? I remember the Americans won an entire tournament with Chinese teams. You don't do that just by being able to take a game off.

But if you're the *only* good Western team, you have to be vastly better than every contender Chinese team to take the title.

Like, if you consider Newbee+VG+DK as the only Chinese contender teams to EG taking the title, EG has to be 80/20 against each of them individually in order for them to have a 50/50 shot at taking the title vs. any one of the others taking it.

Even if you thought EG was the best team in the tournament (which is fair), saying that the West *as a whole* has a 50% chance of winning TI is absurd.


I didn't think Newbee and VG were going to be an issue; they didn't look top at all before the tournament, and indeed Newbee didn't even look top during the tournament. At best, I thought the other two Chinese teams were able to take them down, but IG is going to fail as usual, so it's down to one Chinese team.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 04 2015 23:24 GMT
#3132
I still would have preferred enigma on EHOME or something big and scary for AM.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 04 2015 23:24 GMT
#3133
On August 05 2015 08:22 CherryNubCakes wrote:
I've not watched support Night Stalker, how does it work?

You run at people early then get eventually get aghs and take a massive vision advantage. Silence also pretty amazing vs am.
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
August 04 2015 23:24 GMT
#3134
On August 05 2015 08:23 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 08:14 hfglgg wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:11 Azarkon wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:09 blobrus wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:08 hfglgg wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
This year is going to go the same way as last year. Western teams looking strong only to go crashing out. Like VG and Newbee last year, china has adapted to the meta faster, and their team play will outdo individual prowess.


last year western teams looked good going into ti?

Yea maybe I don't remember right but I'm pretty sure most people thought EG was the sole western hope last year.


And they lost to IG in the last tournament before the big one.

Going into last year, even I thought the West only had an equal shot at taking it.

This year IS different. The West has not lost a single tournament in the last three months. It is going to be a Western year.


last year all western teams were far behind chinese and only EG who was much weaker than they are now had a shot at taking a game off of them.

this year it is indeed different though, but chinese werent as far behind as you think they were.

Why is it always "West vs China"? Kinda weird since Euro and America are different regions

Because China had a long period of eating every other region alive.
So zen.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2866 Posts
August 04 2015 23:24 GMT
#3135
OK guys let's hear it: Who has Secret getting 2-0'ed here in their contest bracket?

*does not raise hand*
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 04 2015 23:24 GMT
#3136
On August 05 2015 08:23 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 08:14 hfglgg wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:11 Azarkon wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:09 blobrus wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:08 hfglgg wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
This year is going to go the same way as last year. Western teams looking strong only to go crashing out. Like VG and Newbee last year, china has adapted to the meta faster, and their team play will outdo individual prowess.


last year western teams looked good going into ti?

Yea maybe I don't remember right but I'm pretty sure most people thought EG was the sole western hope last year.


And they lost to IG in the last tournament before the big one.

Going into last year, even I thought the West only had an equal shot at taking it.

This year IS different. The West has not lost a single tournament in the last three months. It is going to be a Western year.


last year all western teams were far behind chinese and only EG who was much weaker than they are now had a shot at taking a game off of them.

this year it is indeed different though, but chinese werent as far behind as you think they were.

Why is it always "West vs China"? Kinda weird since Euro and America are different regions

should it be West vs Eurasia?
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2866 Posts
August 04 2015 23:25 GMT
#3137
On August 05 2015 08:24 SQWKZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 08:23 Supamang wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:14 hfglgg wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:11 Azarkon wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:09 blobrus wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:08 hfglgg wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:07 SleepyDreams wrote:
This year is going to go the same way as last year. Western teams looking strong only to go crashing out. Like VG and Newbee last year, china has adapted to the meta faster, and their team play will outdo individual prowess.


last year western teams looked good going into ti?

Yea maybe I don't remember right but I'm pretty sure most people thought EG was the sole western hope last year.


And they lost to IG in the last tournament before the big one.

Going into last year, even I thought the West only had an equal shot at taking it.

This year IS different. The West has not lost a single tournament in the last three months. It is going to be a Western year.


last year all western teams were far behind chinese and only EG who was much weaker than they are now had a shot at taking a game off of them.

this year it is indeed different though, but chinese werent as far behind as you think they were.

Why is it always "West vs China"? Kinda weird since Euro and America are different regions

Because China had a long period of eating every other region alive.

...and "America" has meant "basically just EG" for like at least two years now.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
August 04 2015 23:25 GMT
#3138
No idea what DDC was doing there
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
August 04 2015 23:25 GMT
#3139
Look at it go.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 04 2015 23:25 GMT
#3140
the bodyblocks this tournament have actually been insane
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
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