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On February 02 2015 19:27 Caladbolg wrote:
Oh God what a monologue. Secret isn't the be-all-end-all of the West. But they are showing how good they are is enough to be the best team right now... In the group stages. It's like how everyone nuthugged the Miami Heat cause of their star power but then that same team got crushed by the Spurs. Sure, it's nice to have good talent, but that won't win you the world.
To be fair, you did mention that there are replaceable parts, but hey, you never know what kind of chemistry you'll get with those different parts.
It's less about the individual skill than the sheer amount of brain power that Secret packs. Two of the greatest thinkers in Dota are on Secret. Which other team is able to say that it's led by not one, but two TI winning captains?
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c9's draft ensured they would lose out in the laning phase but i didn't expect it to be like this. bone7 mid is gonna have the same infamy as support tinker
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On February 02 2015 19:36 ref4 wrote:
Mushi should have never left DK
BurNing's revenge
I think Mushi was probably held DK back the most more than anyone else
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Honestly C9 would lose to a offlane techies this game too. 4 melee heroes and a wisp
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On February 02 2015 19:36 Exoteric wrote:
c9's draft ensured they would lose out in the laning phase but i didn't expect it to be like this. bone7 mid is gonna have the same infamy as support tinker
the lanes werent the best
but how they lane this game it was even worse
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On February 02 2015 19:36 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 19:27 Caladbolg wrote:
Oh God what a monologue. Secret isn't the be-all-end-all of the West. But they are showing how good they are is enough to be the best team right now... In the group stages. It's like how everyone nuthugged the Miami Heat cause of their star power but then that same team got crushed by the Spurs. Sure, it's nice to have good talent, but that won't win you the world.
To be fair, you did mention that there are replaceable parts, but hey, you never know what kind of chemistry you'll get with those different parts. It's less about the individual skill than the sheer amount of brain power that Secret packs. Two of the greatest thinkers in Dota are on Secret. Which other team is able to say that it's led by not one, but two TI winning captains?
well there aren't exactly many TI captains to choose from lol
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EHOME's draft is atrocious.
@Azarkon, do I need to remind you that first TI was all, but formality?
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I'm so glad C9 does poorly
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17min bloodstone is pretty good. When its first item....
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18 minute Bloodstone/Orchid rofl
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Lol c9's draft was perfectly fine til they lane it that way..
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On February 02 2015 19:37 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 19:36 Azarkon wrote:On February 02 2015 19:27 Caladbolg wrote:
Oh God what a monologue. Secret isn't the be-all-end-all of the West. But they are showing how good they are is enough to be the best team right now... In the group stages. It's like how everyone nuthugged the Miami Heat cause of their star power but then that same team got crushed by the Spurs. Sure, it's nice to have good talent, but that won't win you the world.
To be fair, you did mention that there are replaceable parts, but hey, you never know what kind of chemistry you'll get with those different parts. It's less about the individual skill than the sheer amount of brain power that Secret packs. Two of the greatest thinkers in Dota are on Secret. Which other team is able to say that it's led by not one, but two TI winning captains? well there aren't exactly many TI captains to choose from lol
China has two. Zhou and Xiao8. Were they to form a team, which is a long shot b/c Zhou is retired, and then invite Lanm to coach, then it'd have the same amount of brain power that Secret has.
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On February 02 2015 19:36 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 19:27 Caladbolg wrote:
Oh God what a monologue. Secret isn't the be-all-end-all of the West. But they are showing how good they are is enough to be the best team right now... In the group stages. It's like how everyone nuthugged the Miami Heat cause of their star power but then that same team got crushed by the Spurs. Sure, it's nice to have good talent, but that won't win you the world.
To be fair, you did mention that there are replaceable parts, but hey, you never know what kind of chemistry you'll get with those different parts. It's less about the individual skill than the sheer amount of brain power that Secret packs. Two of the greatest thinkers in Dota are on Secret. Which other team is able to say that it's led by not one, but two TI winning captains?
well. 1 max given only 4 TIs....
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On February 02 2015 19:39 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 19:37 opterown wrote:On February 02 2015 19:36 Azarkon wrote:On February 02 2015 19:27 Caladbolg wrote:
Oh God what a monologue. Secret isn't the be-all-end-all of the West. But they are showing how good they are is enough to be the best team right now... In the group stages. It's like how everyone nuthugged the Miami Heat cause of their star power but then that same team got crushed by the Spurs. Sure, it's nice to have good talent, but that won't win you the world.
To be fair, you did mention that there are replaceable parts, but hey, you never know what kind of chemistry you'll get with those different parts. It's less about the individual skill than the sheer amount of brain power that Secret packs. Two of the greatest thinkers in Dota are on Secret. Which other team is able to say that it's led by not one, but two TI winning captains? well there aren't exactly many TI captains to choose from lol China has two. Zhou and Xiao8. Were they to form a team, which is a long shot b/c Zhou is retired, and then invite Lanm to coach, then it'd have the same amount of brain power that Secret has.
XIao8, BurNing, LanM and ROTK are also "retired" lol
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On February 02 2015 19:19 CmdZOD wrote:Pretty sad for VG after their match against Secret. It kinda seems like they were dicking around, picking Sniper as their only core, Enigma with no real wombo-combo and lack of strategic focus. Poor Sniper got chased all around the map and initiated upon from 1000+ range for half the match  VG comp couldn't push or rosh for their life. I mean when they got a full team wipe, they could only convert it into a tier 1... I wonder how a Bristleback would have fared. On the other hand, it seems Chen is an instaban when you're playing against secret. I find it kinda ironic as the hero disappeard from the meta prior to this tournament. I wonder who will figure out secret and have the skill to take them head on in a Bo3. It's cool for the tournament story to have a team acting as the big bad wolf.
Wierd but i guess HR got best papers for that. They tend to run wierd lineups against toptierteams that actually work if snowballed.
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2.5k gold swing from 1 storm kill rofl
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EPT
