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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 02 2015 09:44 GMT
#981
On February 02 2015 18:43 Ragnarork wrote:
By the way, why "throw"... ? VG just got outclassed in the mid-to-late game IMHO... :/

Because they had sizeable lead and threw it away. The very definition of throw.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
February 02 2015 09:44 GMT
#982
TBH the overall quality of games this tournament has been a bit disappointing.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 02 2015 09:45 GMT
#983
On February 02 2015 18:43 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:42 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Oh yeah, it will be so nice to see Secret's hypetrain crashing in playoffs.

Don't be so certain, Secret still don't look like actual chokers, even though their play was... questionable in first half of the game.


Quite a few games now they have been rather questionable early game. It's just that no one has really punished them for it.


Uh... EVERYONE has punished them for it. That's how their early game is 'questionable' in the first place.

They make comebacks during the mid and late game because they outplay their opponents during those stages. They are punishing their opponents for THEIR weakness.
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
February 02 2015 09:45 GMT
#984
On February 02 2015 18:43 Azarkon wrote:
They won't choke. VG are the chokers.

I'll save this comment for this weekend.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
February 02 2015 09:45 GMT
#985
15-0 B O Y S??
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
February 02 2015 09:45 GMT
#986
On February 02 2015 18:43 Azarkon wrote:
They won't choke. VG are the chokers.

they ain't invincible yow .. VG can take a series of Secret i think.
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 09:46:28
February 02 2015 09:45 GMT
#987
On February 02 2015 18:43 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:42 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Oh yeah, it will be so nice to see Secret's hypetrain crashing in playoffs.

Don't be so certain, Secret still don't look like actual chokers, even though their play was... questionable in first half of the game.


Quite a few games now they have been rather questionable early game. It's just that no one has really punished them for it.

4 days later: every team playing against Secret picks Lycan DP/Razor Bristle Rhasta Chen

EDIT: changed pugna to proper hero
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
February 02 2015 09:46 GMT
#988
So in the playoffs, first place in groups gets to play 8th? then 2nd plays 7th? 3rd-6th and 4-5?
ncsix
Profile Joined February 2012
1370 Posts
February 02 2015 09:46 GMT
#989
On February 02 2015 18:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:42 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Oh yeah, it will be so nice to see Secret's hypetrain crashing in playoffs.

Don't be so certain, Secret still don't look like actual chokers, even though their play was... questionable in first half of the game.


Yeah, after Chen died to the gank bot and the rest of the team followed in one by one after their deaths, I thought that was an advantage VG really needed to seal the deal on, could have gone greedier and take the bot T2 and Rosh. Its too much for sniper this game. Whether its just black or VG needing to draft better around and for their main carry, some things have got to change going into the playoffs.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
February 02 2015 09:46 GMT
#990
On February 02 2015 18:45 ahswtini wrote:
15-0 B O Y S??

U N D E F E A T E D B O Y S
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 02 2015 09:46 GMT
#991
On February 02 2015 18:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:43 Ragnarork wrote:
By the way, why "throw"... ? VG just got outclassed in the mid-to-late game IMHO... :/

Because they had sizeable lead and threw it away. The very definition of throw.


You can lose your lead without "throwing" you know...
And seriously, I don't think VG just went from playing well to playing completely bad tbh.
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fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
February 02 2015 09:47 GMT
#992
On February 02 2015 18:46 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:43 Ragnarork wrote:
By the way, why "throw"... ? VG just got outclassed in the mid-to-late game IMHO... :/

Because they had sizeable lead and threw it away. The very definition of throw.


You can lose your lead without "throwing" you know...
And seriously, I don't think VG just went from playing well to playing completely bad tbh.

Then we have completely different definitions of good play.
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 02 2015 09:47 GMT
#993
On February 02 2015 18:46 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:45 ahswtini wrote:
15-0 B O Y S??

U N D E F E A T E D B O Y S

Wow emu, using twitch chat on liquid is not allowed. Would report you if I could!
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
February 02 2015 09:47 GMT
#994
On February 02 2015 18:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:43 Ragnarork wrote:
By the way, why "throw"... ? VG just got outclassed in the mid-to-late game IMHO... :/

Because they had sizeable lead and threw it away. The very definition of throw.

they weren't really that ahead .. the killscore is misleading when the fights have almost gone for the favor of secret most of the time

and rtz and s4 was still farming well
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 02 2015 09:47 GMT
#995
On February 02 2015 18:46 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:43 Ragnarork wrote:
By the way, why "throw"... ? VG just got outclassed in the mid-to-late game IMHO... :/

Because they had sizeable lead and threw it away. The very definition of throw.


You can lose your lead without "throwing" you know...
And seriously, I don't think VG just went from playing well to playing completely bad tbh.

Ok, if you lose it in rather bursty manner, it is a throw, if you slowly lose it, that's outplay/outdraft
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 02 2015 09:47 GMT
#996
i mean earlygame aside, that draft was hard to execute in terms of closing out a game, they had to snowball very cleanly without messing up anywhere, kind of like c9 vs ig but not as extreme
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 02 2015 09:48 GMT
#997
On February 02 2015 18:45 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:43 Azarkon wrote:
They won't choke. VG are the chokers.

they ain't invincible yow .. VG can take a series of Secret i think.


In theory, yes. In practice, it greatly favors Secret. VG has shown themselves to be chokers when they're challenged to the core of their being by opponents of equal/greater caliber.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
February 02 2015 09:48 GMT
#998
Big God should stay together after DAC!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
February 02 2015 09:48 GMT
#999
On February 02 2015 18:47 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:46 TheEmulator wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:45 ahswtini wrote:
15-0 B O Y S??

U N D E F E A T E D B O Y S

Wow emu, using twitch chat on liquid is not allowed. Would report you if I could!

i actually tried to report emu .. but you were right
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 02 2015 09:48 GMT
#1000
On February 02 2015 18:47 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i mean earlygame aside, that draft was hard to execute in terms of closing out a game, they had to snowball very cleanly without messing up anywhere, kind of like c9 vs ig but not as extreme

c9 vs ig at least had a mean to push down towers.
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