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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:43 Ragnarork wrote: By the way, why "throw"... ? VG just got outclassed in the mid-to-late game IMHO... :/ Because they had sizeable lead and threw it away. The very definition of throw. | ||
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calh
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:43 Numy wrote: Quite a few games now they have been rather questionable early game. It's just that no one has really punished them for it. Uh... EVERYONE has punished them for it. That's how their early game is 'questionable' in the first place. They make comebacks during the mid and late game because they outplay their opponents during those stages. They are punishing their opponents for THEIR weakness. | ||
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:43 Azarkon wrote: They won't choke. VG are the chokers. I'll save this comment for this weekend. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:43 Azarkon wrote: They won't choke. VG are the chokers. they ain't invincible yow .. VG can take a series of Secret i think. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:43 Numy wrote: Quite a few games now they have been rather questionable early game. It's just that no one has really punished them for it. 4 days later: every team playing against Secret picks Lycan DP/Razor Bristle Rhasta Chen EDIT: changed pugna to proper hero | ||
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V1ctor
Moldova1645 Posts
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ncsix
1370 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:43 lolfail9001 wrote: Don't be so certain, Secret still don't look like actual chokers, even though their play was... questionable in first half of the game. Yeah, after Chen died to the gank bot and the rest of the team followed in one by one after their deaths, I thought that was an advantage VG really needed to seal the deal on, could have gone greedier and take the bot T2 and Rosh. Its too much for sniper this game. Whether its just black or VG needing to draft better around and for their main carry, some things have got to change going into the playoffs. | ||
TheEmulator
28095 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:45 ahswtini wrote: 15-0 B O Y S?? U N D E F E A T E D B O Y S | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:44 lolfail9001 wrote: Because they had sizeable lead and threw it away. The very definition of throw. You can lose your lead without "throwing" you know... And seriously, I don't think VG just went from playing well to playing completely bad tbh. | ||
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:46 Ragnarork wrote: You can lose your lead without "throwing" you know... And seriously, I don't think VG just went from playing well to playing completely bad tbh. Then we have completely different definitions of good play. | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
Wow emu, using twitch chat on liquid is not allowed. Would report you if I could! | ||
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goody153
44236 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:44 lolfail9001 wrote: Because they had sizeable lead and threw it away. The very definition of throw. they weren't really that ahead .. the killscore is misleading when the fights have almost gone for the favor of secret most of the time and rtz and s4 was still farming well | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:46 Ragnarork wrote: You can lose your lead without "throwing" you know... And seriously, I don't think VG just went from playing well to playing completely bad tbh. Ok, if you lose it in rather bursty manner, it is a throw, if you slowly lose it, that's outplay/outdraft | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:45 goody153 wrote: they ain't invincible yow .. VG can take a series of Secret i think. In theory, yes. In practice, it greatly favors Secret. VG has shown themselves to be chokers when they're challenged to the core of their being by opponents of equal/greater caliber. | ||
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ref4
2933 Posts
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goody153
44236 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:47 Rocket-Bear wrote: Wow emu, using twitch chat on liquid is not allowed. Would report you if I could! i actually tried to report emu .. but you were right  | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:47 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i mean earlygame aside, that draft was hard to execute in terms of closing out a game, they had to snowball very cleanly without messing up anywhere, kind of like c9 vs ig but not as extreme c9 vs ig at least had a mean to push down towers. | ||
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