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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 03 2014 11:49 GMT
#841
Oh for fucks sake.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
October 03 2014 11:49 GMT
#842
On October 03 2014 20:49 kirsed wrote:
Why does no one pause?


They all drop togther i guess
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 03 2014 11:49 GMT
#843
this fucking navi game lol
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
October 03 2014 11:49 GMT
#844
On October 03 2014 20:49 kirsed wrote:
Why does no one pause?


Spectators cannot pause, all players are disconnected
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
October 03 2014 11:49 GMT
#845
fucking chinese servers...
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 03 2014 11:50 GMT
#846
On October 03 2014 20:49 kirsed wrote:
Why does no one pause?

Spectators can't pause, it has to be players but no one seem to be fast enough or they're tired of this game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
October 03 2014 11:50 GMT
#847
On October 03 2014 20:49 babysimba wrote:
I just don't see the hype behind LC. Always thought he's one of the shittiest hero in game, yet people were saying he's OP and versatile. His only good point is clearing summons.


LC did get nerfed so that may be the reason LC is underwhelming atm
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
October 03 2014 11:51 GMT
#848
On October 03 2014 20:49 babysimba wrote:
I just don't see the hype behind LC. Always thought he's one of the shittiest hero in game, yet people were saying he's OP and versatile. His only good point is clearing summons.

Really good laning and anti push too. Also, she scales well without items but scales even better with.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
October 03 2014 11:51 GMT
#849
On October 03 2014 20:49 V1ctor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 20:49 kirsed wrote:
Why does no one pause?


Spectators cannot pause, all players are disconnected


When did they change that?


Also isn't lc supposed to get damage early by only using duel when the target is essentially 100% dead already so you guarantee the damage? Then when you get a good amount of damage actually start duel initiating? I have no idea how to play it this is what I've assumed.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 03 2014 11:51 GMT
#850
On October 03 2014 20:49 babysimba wrote:
I just don't see the hype behind LC. Always thought he's one of the shittiest hero in game, yet people were saying he's OP and versatile. His only good point is clearing summons.

Always what I thought too. Even more so useless in pro games (works ok in pubs where you can find pickoffs to snowball off duel damage with). Snowballing pickoff-dependant heroes just doesnt exist in pro games.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 03 2014 11:51 GMT
#851
On October 03 2014 20:50 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 20:49 babysimba wrote:
I just don't see the hype behind LC. Always thought he's one of the shittiest hero in game, yet people were saying he's OP and versatile. His only good point is clearing summons.


LC did get nerfed so that may be the reason LC is underwhelming atm

Also remember that Funn1k had to jungle LC, which is pretty much like jungling Lone Druid. You can do it, you just would rather not.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
October 03 2014 11:52 GMT
#852
Imagine if Navi kicked xboct and let kuro to be carry :o
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 11:56:33
October 03 2014 11:56 GMT
#853
On October 03 2014 20:49 babysimba wrote:
I just don't see the hype behind LC. Always thought he's one of the shittiest hero in game, yet people were saying he's OP and versatile. His only good point is clearing summons.


Yeah he doesn't have one of the strongest dispels in the game, that also heals you for 300 lifepoints and gives you a hefty attack speed bonus. What an complete and utter shit spell. Once people start min/maxing this hero and figures out to achieve the most with the least amount of farm on this hero, it'll be a very solid hero. I think your completely off tbh.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
October 03 2014 11:58 GMT
#854
Well I don't know if LC is really viable, but it sure won't work against chinese teams who won't hesitate to deathball and exploit the early teamfight weakness of LC. In addition, they usually have some sort of CC in their lineup.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 03 2014 11:59 GMT
#855
On October 03 2014 20:51 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 20:49 V1ctor wrote:
On October 03 2014 20:49 kirsed wrote:
Why does no one pause?


Spectators cannot pause, all players are disconnected


When did they change that?


Also isn't lc supposed to get damage early by only using duel when the target is essentially 100% dead already so you guarantee the damage? Then when you get a good amount of damage actually start duel initiating? I have no idea how to play it this is what I've assumed.

Well, no pro team really seem to have found good use of her. So take what I say with a grain of salt. If you play her as a 1 or 2 position she kinda needs to do what you're saying. To be relevant come midgame and lategame she needs a good chunk of bonus-damage. As position 3 (or even 4 if someone would ever bother trying that) like Navi is using atm, I think you can focus more on just being lockdown and just use the hero as hard CC on a key enemy target. But honestly im not sure why you just dont get a batrider or beastmaster or something instead then.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
October 03 2014 12:03 GMT
#856
old NaVi (Puppey/Kuro) would kick new NaVi's ass any day of the week
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 03 2014 12:05 GMT
#857
On October 03 2014 20:56 Oddball28 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 20:49 babysimba wrote:
I just don't see the hype behind LC. Always thought he's one of the shittiest hero in game, yet people were saying he's OP and versatile. His only good point is clearing summons.


Yeah he doesn't have one of the strongest dispels in the game, that also heals you for 300 lifepoints and gives you a hefty attack speed bonus. What an complete and utter shit spell. Once people start min/maxing this hero and figures out to achieve the most with the least amount of farm on this hero, it'll be a very solid hero. I think your completely off tbh.

You could say the same about every hero in the game. Look at this hero X and his ability Y. It does this and this, its awesome.

Problem with LC is mainly she needs to continously get damage to stay relevant. Pro games are just generally not pickoff-friendly enough to keep doing that.

On a side note, dispel and attack speed bonus synergizes extremely bad. When you dispel someone out of a key CC, the atsp bonus is probably wasted 90% of the time. If you atsp yourself pre-duel or atsp your carry you waste the dispel. That doesnt mean the spell is bad, just saying...
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
October 03 2014 12:06 GMT
#858
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 03 2014 12:07 GMT
#859
Why would you pick QoP?

No idea what purpose this hero even has these days.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
October 03 2014 12:08 GMT
#860


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