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Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
November 01 2014 18:27 GMT
#1561
On November 02 2014 03:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:22 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe some people will realise that just because Sing has some bad games (and please don't give him Jakiro ever again) it doesn't make him a terrible player.

Probably not though

Players can't go very far if they can't be consistent.


Sure and I'm not saying that Sing is the best player ever but according to some people, just because he occasionally feeds, he should never play in a t1 team ever. Let's not forget that he played very well at TI4 for example and he was one of the main reasons C9 did so well. Even with Team Tinker, he has had very good games too
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 18:28:16
November 01 2014 18:27 GMT
#1562
On November 02 2014 03:16 Latham wrote:
Necrolyte so good. Na'vi has nothing to do in this game.


That's also because they picked a hero that excels in doing nothing, our good friend Outsidian Desvourer.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 01 2014 18:29 GMT
#1563
OK I don't know if anyone else has this problem but I normally have adblock off for TL and had to turn it on for this DM stream because these constant ads overlaying the sound of the stream are obnoxious beyond belief.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Chrian
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1472 Posts
November 01 2014 18:29 GMT
#1564
My issue with sing is that he he only seems to play well from being ahead (as a core, not enough data to judge his support play). If he falls behind in lane/is in a disadvantaged lane (see: most of his recent offlane performances), he really really struggles to find farm at any point in the game, and basically becomes an aimless feed machine.

WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 01 2014 18:29 GMT
#1565
Is that word in the centre of the stage "SHARE?"

People keep standing right over the last three letters and it keeps looking like "SHIT".
Average means I'm better than half of you.
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
November 01 2014 18:30 GMT
#1566
People flaming Sing for me is the same who flames Fly with no reason. He sacrifices himself so much for qojqva and Pajkatt to get farm around the map. Except for his Jakiro. He suck as Jakiro.

And I don't know why people say he's not versatile. He can play in any position (as he already did in his career, sup on Kaipi, mid on most of his teams and carry on QPAD) and has a larger hero pool than people give him credit for.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 01 2014 18:30 GMT
#1567
On November 02 2014 03:27 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:16 Latham wrote:
Necrolyte so good. Na'vi has nothing to do in this game.


That's also because they picked a hero that excels in doing nothing, our good friend Outsidian Desvourer.


I would say a 1 role void is also a Do Nothing hero.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 01 2014 18:31 GMT
#1568
On November 02 2014 03:27 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:22 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe some people will realise that just because Sing has some bad games (and please don't give him Jakiro ever again) it doesn't make him a terrible player.

Probably not though

Players can't go very far if they can't be consistent.


Sure and I'm not saying that Sing is the best player ever but according to some people, just because he occasionally feeds, he should never play in a t1 team ever. Let's not forget that he played very well at TI4 for example and he was one of the main reasons C9 did so well. Even with Team Tinker, he has had very good games too


At TI4, C9 made a conscious effort to pick/ban around heroes Sing was comfortable with. Often times they let Sing take the 1 position farm (meepo games for instance). The main complaint from people is that once Sing isn't winning his lane or getting support, he tends to drop off dramatically
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 01 2014 18:31 GMT
#1569
Is that curly haired guy with the glasses coaching for Team Tinker Chappie? He seems to have a lot of input in their drafts. I thought he was just their manager.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
November 01 2014 18:32 GMT
#1570
On November 02 2014 03:25 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:22 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe some people will realise that just because Sing has some bad games (and please don't give him Jakiro ever again) it doesn't make him a terrible player.

Probably not though


Sing is not terrible, but he's not nearly as versatile as you would want your solo mid to be. He also seems to struggle with farming past the laning stage.

Does he even play solo mid anymore? Sing's heroes need space. Not a ton of space like qojqva needs, but some space. There's simply not enough space on that team for Pajkatt, Qojqva, and sing. And they can't go around killing as 3 people cause EGM and Bulba likes feeding as well (granted funn1k owned the supports pretty hard) but no one says anyting cause supports are supposed to feed or something. They should just go full EG and start putting sing on heroes like tide or bounty.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 01 2014 18:32 GMT
#1571
On November 02 2014 03:29 FHDH wrote:
OK I don't know if anyone else has this problem but I normally have adblock off for TL and had to turn it on for this DM stream because these constant ads overlaying the sound of the stream are obnoxious beyond belief.


Some of the ads are also seven minutes long. Something about Jamaica or some crap.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 01 2014 18:33 GMT
#1572
Do we not get to see the draft?
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 18:35:19
November 01 2014 18:33 GMT
#1573
On November 02 2014 03:31 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:27 Linwelin wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:22 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe some people will realise that just because Sing has some bad games (and please don't give him Jakiro ever again) it doesn't make him a terrible player.

Probably not though

Players can't go very far if they can't be consistent.


Sure and I'm not saying that Sing is the best player ever but according to some people, just because he occasionally feeds, he should never play in a t1 team ever. Let's not forget that he played very well at TI4 for example and he was one of the main reasons C9 did so well. Even with Team Tinker, he has had very good games too


At TI4, C9 made a conscious effort to pick/ban around heroes Sing was comfortable with. Often times they let Sing take the 1 position farm (meepo games for instance). The main complaint from people is that once Sing isn't winning his lane or getting support, he tends to drop off dramatically


But I don't really see qojqva or Pajkatt being different in that. Both of them have bad games if they don't farm well.

And it's actually something Sing knows he's quite bad at (comingback in a game). I remember at TI4 HUB pieliedie and him discussing their strenghts and weakness and both mentioned that.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 01 2014 18:34 GMT
#1574
Dendi od always depresses me. Can't really think of a worse hero for him.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
November 01 2014 18:35 GMT
#1575
On November 02 2014 03:34 hifriend wrote:
Dendi od always depresses me. Can't really think of a worse hero for him.

magnus?
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 01 2014 18:37 GMT
#1576
On November 02 2014 03:35 Count9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:34 hifriend wrote:
Dendi od always depresses me. Can't really think of a worse hero for him.

magnus?

Yeah he doesn't have 70% winrate with 5.2 KDA on Magnus in 68 pro games or anything.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 01 2014 18:38 GMT
#1577
give sing a non-core kunkka pls. miss my tempo kunkka
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 01 2014 18:39 GMT
#1578
On November 02 2014 03:33 cuckoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 03:31 bagels21 wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:27 Linwelin wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 02 2014 03:22 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe some people will realise that just because Sing has some bad games (and please don't give him Jakiro ever again) it doesn't make him a terrible player.

Probably not though

Players can't go very far if they can't be consistent.


Sure and I'm not saying that Sing is the best player ever but according to some people, just because he occasionally feeds, he should never play in a t1 team ever. Let's not forget that he played very well at TI4 for example and he was one of the main reasons C9 did so well. Even with Team Tinker, he has had very good games too


At TI4, C9 made a conscious effort to pick/ban around heroes Sing was comfortable with. Often times they let Sing take the 1 position farm (meepo games for instance). The main complaint from people is that once Sing isn't winning his lane or getting support, he tends to drop off dramatically


But I don't really see qojqva or Pajkatt being different in that. Both of them have bad games if they don't farm well.

And it's actually something Sing knows he's quite bad at (comingback in a game). I remember at TI4 HUB pieliedie and him discussing their strenghts and weakness and both mentioned that.


granted PJ doesn't really impress me, but he's never really had the same kind of fanbase(and haters) as Sing has. PJ sorta just plays solidly and does whatever you need him to do.

Qojqva rarely falls behind in farm though, even when he's in an unfavorable lane. I think his laning stage is probably one of his strengths. He almost never falls behind early game.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 01 2014 18:40 GMT
#1579
bloodlust lone druid have you seen this fucking bear
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 01 2014 18:41 GMT
#1580
OD is a shit hero. He needs BKB for survivability but can't rush it or you have no damage output for fights and fast farming. He was only viable before the creep deny nerfs when he could win the lane enough to buy him time to get fat.
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