• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:54
CEST 18:54
KST 01:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection2Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June0Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th150Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th My starcraft 2 changes The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued SC2 Parody - "Somebody That I Used to Troll"
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train
Brood War
General
Tesagi Viewer - A new era of replay watching Data analysis on 70 million replays BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How cold is too cold to be outdoors? Dating: How's your luck? Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
LNN SLEEPINGFOREST
LENION
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3427 users

[LR] The International II - 2012 - Page 970

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 968 969 970 971 972 1179 Next
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 02 2012 23:44 GMT
#19381
OH LOL I should have payed more attention to DotA 2 GD gossip. NEVERMIND, CARRY ON. =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
September 02 2012 23:44 GMT
#19382
On September 03 2012 08:43 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:36 Azarkon wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:35 maDDiC wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:33 Implenia wrote:
32 min. 47 kills. Who said chinese dota is a farm fest?


they are fighting uncharacteristically too much.

most of the time over nothing infact , to the point of fighting for the sake of fighting.

i feel like iam watching mouz vs M5 or something.


Yeah.

This is exciting, but it's bad Dota.

Watch the Na'Vi games for how to play.


Did you just call the top #2 chinese teams "bad dota"?

..

...

Way to be a downer in such a tournament.


You don't have to be good to win, just look at every opponent Idra looses to
Yeah
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
September 02 2012 23:44 GMT
#19383
On September 03 2012 08:37 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:33 kimchikim wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:29 Xpace wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:28 YoucriedWolf wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:25 mr_tolkien wrote:
So few messages for such a good game.

Maybe we are busy watching cuz its such a good game


No cheers, no chants, no claps.

If no one wants to say it, I will.

It's 'cause they're Chinese, and the Chinese have "no personalities", and pick "boring heroes".


how can you say they are boring and have no personality if you (probably) don't speak their language/ don't know a lot a lot about their culture?


I'm Chinese American, currently living in Hong Kong. It's 7:34 AM here, and I'm still closely watching this game, I haven't abandoned it (like the crowd) just because there's no white dude playing.

I was relaying what (most) people are thinking, but are afraid to say in fear of appearing "racist". Look at my previous 10 posts and you'll see.


For me, it's that I've had absolutely zero exposure to Chinese Dota. I usually watch Tobi on Joindota, which is mostly European / Western teams; I know they had an Asian tournament at some point but I apparently missed it. He normally casts pretty late for me, so I don't watch everything. I have no idea about how good the Chinese teams or players are, what their styles are, etc., apart from what I've seen this week. I'd like to see more Chinese teams, especially after seeing how amazingly good they are, but don't really know how to go about finding streams / leagues. So yeah -- I've been less excited about China v. China matches than I probably would be if there were a team that I was familiar with. I imagine that's true for a fair number of U.S. viewers. I don't think it's the Chinese team's fault, I don't think it's fanboyism or racism, it's just that Chinese Dota is kind of a thing of its own and a lot of people aren't familiar with it.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
September 02 2012 23:44 GMT
#19384
damn now i just wanna go watch LGD vs Navi straightaway u guys :<

oh well i have rest of the day and i didnt miss grand finals so its not too bad lolol
POGGERS
maDDiC
Profile Joined September 2012
Singapore24 Posts
September 02 2012 23:44 GMT
#19385
On September 03 2012 08:42 TanGeng wrote:
How dare anyone say that Chinese Dota is boring!!!


i think the EU/NA and the Chinese dota community should try n stop circlejerking each other.

<3 chinese dota
<3 EU/NA dota

<3 dota
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
September 02 2012 23:45 GMT
#19386
On September 03 2012 08:43 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:43 r.Evo wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:36 Azarkon wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:35 maDDiC wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:33 Implenia wrote:
32 min. 47 kills. Who said chinese dota is a farm fest?


they are fighting uncharacteristically too much.

most of the time over nothing infact , to the point of fighting for the sake of fighting.

i feel like iam watching mouz vs M5 or something.


Yeah.

This is exciting, but it's bad Dota.

Watch the Na'Vi games for how to play.


Did you just call the top #2 chinese teams "bad dota"?

..

...

Way to be a downer in such a tournament.

Welcome to Azarkon! Might be the Lightwip of Dota2 right now.

I admit, this made me laugh more than it should have.

This Bear is getting so farmed. Radiance, Demon Edge, MKB, Hood
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 02 2012 23:45 GMT
#19387
On September 03 2012 08:44 Phyxx wrote:
This is such an amazing day of dota... and I have to get to school in 6 hours

i feel bad for non americans watching. when grand finals ends i'm going to a party tonight. you guys have other stuff to do and can miss the finals.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 02 2012 23:45 GMT
#19388
Wow is lgd going to go from perfect to out of the tourney that fast, how the mighty have fallen.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 02 2012 23:46 GMT
#19389
On September 03 2012 08:43 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:36 Azarkon wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:35 maDDiC wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:33 Implenia wrote:
32 min. 47 kills. Who said chinese dota is a farm fest?


they are fighting uncharacteristically too much.

most of the time over nothing infact , to the point of fighting for the sake of fighting.

i feel like iam watching mouz vs M5 or something.


Yeah.

This is exciting, but it's bad Dota.

Watch the Na'Vi games for how to play.


Did you just call the top #2 chinese teams "bad dota"?

..

...

Way to be a downer in such a tournament.

just ignore him, he doesn't really know what he is talking about, also bob ross boss.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
September 02 2012 23:46 GMT
#19390
On September 03 2012 08:41 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:40 Grettin wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:40 konadora wrote:
OH YES I THOUGHT I SLEPT PAST THE GRAND FINALS LOL

just in time for LB :>

BUT HOLY SHIT NAVI WON LGD DAMN


You missed the best series of the tournament. Navi vs LGD. I would be mad at myself missing those games..

I WILL WATCH ENTIRE VODS LATER

too tired QQ i just slept through my alarm when i put the alarm right beside me D:


Sadly thats not the same as watching it live with everyone here. :<
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 23:47:18
September 02 2012 23:47 GMT
#19391
On September 03 2012 08:44 konadora wrote:
damn now i just wanna go watch LGD vs Navi straightaway u guys :<

oh well i have rest of the day and i didnt miss grand finals so its not too bad lolol

hahaha.i have a feeling you'll see LGD vs Na'vi pretty soon anyway, and in the extended directors cut version with two more games (go go go LGD)
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 02 2012 23:47 GMT
#19392
On September 03 2012 08:44 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:37 Xpace wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:33 kimchikim wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:29 Xpace wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:28 YoucriedWolf wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:25 mr_tolkien wrote:
So few messages for such a good game.

Maybe we are busy watching cuz its such a good game


No cheers, no chants, no claps.

If no one wants to say it, I will.

It's 'cause they're Chinese, and the Chinese have "no personalities", and pick "boring heroes".


how can you say they are boring and have no personality if you (probably) don't speak their language/ don't know a lot a lot about their culture?


I'm Chinese American, currently living in Hong Kong. It's 7:34 AM here, and I'm still closely watching this game, I haven't abandoned it (like the crowd) just because there's no white dude playing.

I was relaying what (most) people are thinking, but are afraid to say in fear of appearing "racist". Look at my previous 10 posts and you'll see.


For me, it's that I've had absolutely zero exposure to Chinese Dota. I usually watch Tobi on Joindota, which is mostly European / Western teams; I know they had an Asian tournament at some point but I apparently missed it. He normally casts pretty late for me, so I don't watch everything. I have no idea about how good the Chinese teams or players are, what their styles are, etc., apart from what I've seen this week. I'd like to see more Chinese teams, especially after seeing how amazingly good they are, but don't really know how to go about finding streams / leagues. So yeah -- I've been less excited about China v. China matches than I probably would be if there were a team that I was familiar with. I imagine that's true for a fair number of U.S. viewers. I don't think it's the Chinese team's fault, I don't think it's fanboyism or racism, it's just that Chinese Dota is kind of a thing of its own and a lot of people aren't familiar with it.

The problem with Chinese Dota1 right now is that they play the games even later than what the old pro BW was, and old pro BW was even better. Chinese Dota1 has just only recently in the past year getting amazing at production value (no idea how its going business-wise though)
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 02 2012 23:47 GMT
#19393
On September 03 2012 08:46 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 08:43 r.Evo wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:36 Azarkon wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:35 maDDiC wrote:
On September 03 2012 08:33 Implenia wrote:
32 min. 47 kills. Who said chinese dota is a farm fest?


they are fighting uncharacteristically too much.

most of the time over nothing infact , to the point of fighting for the sake of fighting.

i feel like iam watching mouz vs M5 or something.


Yeah.

This is exciting, but it's bad Dota.

Watch the Na'Vi games for how to play.


Did you just call the top #2 chinese teams "bad dota"?

..

...

Way to be a downer in such a tournament.

just ignore him, he doesn't really know what he is talking about, also bob ross boss.


When it is bad Dota, it is bad Dota, doesn't matter who's playing.

Fighting without cause = bad Dota.
morlakaix
Profile Joined February 2011
United States860 Posts
September 02 2012 23:47 GMT
#19394
the technical play here is amazing, they don't have PERFECT teamwork, but the individual decision making and plays they make are so great to watch
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
September 02 2012 23:48 GMT
#19395
Oh, missed Ward Trap =(
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
September 02 2012 23:48 GMT
#19396
Start ignoring the dumb comments. It's a forum so it's bound to happen.
Everybody just focus on the game and lets be friends :D
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
maDDiC
Profile Joined September 2012
Singapore24 Posts
September 02 2012 23:49 GMT
#19397
On September 03 2012 08:48 Mykill wrote:
Start ignoring the dumb comments. It's a forum so it's bound to happen.
Everybody just focus on the game and lets be friends :D


yes

lets all be friends please.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
September 02 2012 23:50 GMT
#19398
EPICENTER
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
September 02 2012 23:50 GMT
#19399
SYLAR IS FUCKING AMAZING.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
September 02 2012 23:50 GMT
#19400
guys don't argue with Azarkon, it just clutters the thread

BIG FIGHT, great execution from LGD, perfect roar from BM
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Prev 1 968 969 970 971 972 1179 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Maestros of the Game
15:30
Group C
Serral vs Percival
SHIN vs ShoWTimE
RotterdaM1313
IntoTheiNu 1106
ComeBackTV 895
TaKeTV 565
IndyStarCraft 179
SteadfastSC169
BRAT_OK 83
EnkiAlexander 71
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1313
IndyStarCraft 179
Ryung 173
Rex 172
SteadfastSC 169
BRAT_OK 83
ProTech74
UpATreeSC 62
Codebar 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 20890
Calm 6996
Shuttle 1429
EffOrt 1069
Mini 548
ggaemo 266
BeSt 246
hero 167
Sharp 85
Dewaltoss 70
[ Show more ]
firebathero 67
Mong 59
Sea.KH 49
Hyun 48
sorry 32
soO 31
Free 30
910 25
Sacsri 20
Shine 20
Terrorterran 18
IntoTheRainbow 17
Rock 16
yabsab 14
Movie 12
Sexy 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6024
qojqva1610
XaKoH 343
420jenkins175
Counter-Strike
fl0m8503
byalli770
zeus282
x6flipin214
Other Games
Grubby3513
singsing2737
hiko867
FrodaN778
Beastyqt621
Lowko547
Dendi441
B2W.Neo379
crisheroes305
ArmadaUGS117
C9.Mang0100
KnowMe85
Livibee59
Trikslyr53
Mew2King52
MindelVK6
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 87
• Response 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 34
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade825
Other Games
• Shiphtur71
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 6m
Replay Cast
16h 6m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
22h 6m
Maestros of the Game
22h 36m
Clem vs Lambo
Zoun vs SKillous
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Solar vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 22h
Grudge Match
1d 23h
FlaShFTW vs A.Alm
OSC
2 days
GSL
2 days
herO vs Rogue
Maru vs Cure
[ Show More ]
Patches Events
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KK 2v2 League Season 1
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #3
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.