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On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great.
I think he's pretty angry about the fact that this is the situation.
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On December 02 2012 17:13 kdgns wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. I think he's pretty angry about the fact that this is the situation.
It's WCG, they love to do everything in the worst possible way.
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This is a joke is doa one of the commentators? So unprofessional of them, and insulting to the viewers and fans of dota. They're just trying to troll the dota community -.-
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On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do.
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Canada2068 Posts
On December 02 2012 16:23 kdgns wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 16:21 CountChocula wrote:On December 02 2012 16:20 kdgns wrote:On December 02 2012 16:20 CountChocula wrote:On December 02 2012 16:18 kdgns wrote:On December 02 2012 16:17 CountChocula wrote:
This Chinese caster is pretty unprofessional. Always calls out stuff 2-3 seconds before it enters Orange's vision. players cant hear casters at this point Stream delay? soundproof headsets, this is live. also, sound is directed away from stage, they specifically did tests to make sure stage could not hear commentators On the Chinese stream, you can see Mushi isn't even wearing a headset. hey you're right, I wonder cos the casters actually were concerned about analysis during ban stage but after game started they said the sound has been removed from the stage. I assume the referees would notify casters if they could hear commentating from stage.
Look likes you were right. Casters just mentioned Stage D audience can't hear the cast either.
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On December 02 2012 17:17 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do.
yeah you see, if you do that he would know he wouldnt be able to do a good job, these two people dont know that, and they should.
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They're trying to be funny, making the best of what they have. They have to cast the match, so what do you want? A bunch of half-ass, boring, wrong bs'ing?
It's a bad situation but you can't blame it on the casters of all people. They did not deliberately choose to cast a game they had no knowledge of to "troll the dota community".
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On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful.
Doa has been in the casting community (well for SC2) for a while. He already said he doesn't know what's going on (or else he'll talk more about the actual game).
They only got like 1 Dota casters (Tobi AFAIK) in WCG. They're doing the best they can with what they have.
Finally I don't know why people are thinking he's making fun of the game or down playing it.
Artosis and Tasteless make jokes about SC2 all the time (like whether the Medivac is cute or not, what would a Zerg say if they saw a flying bunker, etc).
Edit - Also they mentioned that they're not casting in the best environment (it's a really small screen and they can barely see what's going on).
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On December 02 2012 17:17 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do.
i wouldn't apply for a job I can't do. Or if I had to do it I would actually watch a tutorial video or read a basic guide not to make a complete ass out of myself. Yes I get that they had limited time to prepare but that doesn't excuse what they are currently doing now.
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On December 02 2012 17:17 kdgns wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:17 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do. yeah you see, if you do that he would know he wouldnt be able to do a good job, these two people dont know that, and they should. What? Do you think they believe to be doing a good job? Lol. They absolutely know they can't cast this game at all, but the organizers told them to talk over it, so they must say stuff. It wasn't planned beforehand, they aren't there for that.
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On December 02 2012 17:18 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. Doa has been in the casting community (well for SC2) for a while. He already said he doesn't know what's going on (or else he'll talk more about the actual game). They only got like 1 Dota casters (Tobi AFAIK) in WCG. They're doing the best they can with what they have. Finally I don't know why people are thinking he's making fun of the game or down playing it. Artosis and Tasteless make jokes about SC2 all the time (like whether the Medivac is cute or not, what would a Zerg say if they saw a flying bunker, etc).
Well, I think another option would be if you don't know the game, you get on stream, say you dont know the game, announce who is playing and shut the hell up and link to the koreans for the atmosphere.
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On December 02 2012 17:19 Implenia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:17 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do. i wouldn't apply for a job I can't do. Or if I had to do it I would actually watch a tutorial video or read a basic guide not to make a complete ass out of myself. Yes I get that they had limited time to prepare but that doesn't excuse what they are currently doing now.
Doa is an SC2 caster and Ramon is a CS caster.
WCG is spreading out the casters.
Plus Doa had to cast WC3, FIFA, and a bunch of other random WCG games too.
It's not their fault that WCG didn't get more Dota casters.
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On December 02 2012 17:19 Implenia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:17 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do. i wouldn't apply for a job I can't do. Or if I had to do it I would actually watch a tutorial video or read a basic guide not to make a complete ass out of myself. Yes I get that they had limited time to prepare but that doesn't excuse what they are currently doing now. That's where you are getting it wrong - Doa is SC2 caster, the other guy was for one of the other games (the FPS I believe). They went there to cast those games in which they are professionals. But the organizers told all English casters of all types of games that they will actually have to rotate a lot and cast other games too. It happened right there and was not planned. Blame the organizers for making clowns out of these people, but they aren't really clowns themselves and are doing their best.
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"Its a Golden Glove that summons gold."
Oh god. Its best to just leave stream on the background, its amusing on its own. ^_^
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On December 02 2012 17:21 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:19 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:17 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do. i wouldn't apply for a job I can't do. Or if I had to do it I would actually watch a tutorial video or read a basic guide not to make a complete ass out of myself. Yes I get that they had limited time to prepare but that doesn't excuse what they are currently doing now. Doa is an SC2 caster and Ramon is a CS caster. WCG is spreading out the casters. Plus Doa had to cast WC3, FIFA, and a bunch of other random WCG games too. It's not their fault that WCG didn't get more Dota casters.
Some time before this week, WCG scheduled the events. Some time before this week, a bunch of english casters got on a plane and went to china. Some time before this week someone should have realized, wait a minute theres only one dota caster coming to cast an event that has 2 dota games. At some point before breakfast on the first morning someone at wcg should have realized they didnt have enough dota casters. At some point before the first games these two casted, someone should have handed them a list of what the names of the heroes are in dota. But none of that happened.
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Wow I can't believe that DM are maybe going to 2:0 Orange :o
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On December 02 2012 17:24 kdgns wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:21 Goldfish wrote:On December 02 2012 17:19 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:17 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do. i wouldn't apply for a job I can't do. Or if I had to do it I would actually watch a tutorial video or read a basic guide not to make a complete ass out of myself. Yes I get that they had limited time to prepare but that doesn't excuse what they are currently doing now. Doa is an SC2 caster and Ramon is a CS caster. WCG is spreading out the casters. Plus Doa had to cast WC3, FIFA, and a bunch of other random WCG games too. It's not their fault that WCG didn't get more Dota casters. Some time before this week, WCG scheduled the events. Some time before this week, a bunch of english casters got on a plane and went to china. Some time before this week someone should have realized, wait a minute theres only one dota caster coming to cast an event that has 2 dota games. At some point before breakfast on the first morning someone at wcg should have realized they didnt have enough dota casters. At some point before the first games these two casted, someone should have handed them a list of what the names of the heroes are in dota. But none of that happened.
I can't believe what you're saying. First you suggest they stay silent for the greater good (lol) on an english stream they are told and paid to cast. Now it seems like you're saying it's somehow the casters' job to last minute spot check who WCG hires, how they organize their event, and their scheduling.
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On December 02 2012 17:24 kdgns wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:21 Goldfish wrote:On December 02 2012 17:19 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:17 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do. i wouldn't apply for a job I can't do. Or if I had to do it I would actually watch a tutorial video or read a basic guide not to make a complete ass out of myself. Yes I get that they had limited time to prepare but that doesn't excuse what they are currently doing now. Doa is an SC2 caster and Ramon is a CS caster. WCG is spreading out the casters. Plus Doa had to cast WC3, FIFA, and a bunch of other random WCG games too. It's not their fault that WCG didn't get more Dota casters. Some time before this week, WCG scheduled the events. Some time before this week, a bunch of english casters got on a plane and went to china. Some time before this week someone should have realized, wait a minute theres only one dota caster coming to cast an event that has 2 dota games. At some point before breakfast on the first morning someone at wcg should have realized they didnt have enough dota casters. At some point before the first games these two casted, someone should have handed them a list of what the names of the heroes are in dota. But none of that happened.
You seem to be under the assumption that WCG wants to knock it out of the park for the english stream. Good one. One day you'll learn, young padawan.
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On December 02 2012 17:28 ketomai wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 17:24 kdgns wrote:On December 02 2012 17:21 Goldfish wrote:On December 02 2012 17:19 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:17 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:13 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:11 figq wrote:On December 02 2012 17:02 Implenia wrote:On December 02 2012 17:01 poorcloud wrote:
this is hilarious. this is absolutely sad that a 3rd place game gets casted by clowns fixed that You seem angry. Keep in mind WCG made Tobi cast a lot of WarCraft III matches and even SC2, while many Dota matches were cast by people who've never played Dota, in Chinese client, where their only clue is if they occasionally hear the English names of the heroes as they appear in the picking phase. Given the situation, they are doing great. Is it wrong of me to be upset that a good dota 2 match gets shown by two clowns who can't appreciate the game and instead make fun of it and compare it to LoL? I get it some people think it's funny. It was funny on the first day, now it is just sad and disrespectful. We should make you cast a game you've never played in Chinese client and see how you do. i wouldn't apply for a job I can't do. Or if I had to do it I would actually watch a tutorial video or read a basic guide not to make a complete ass out of myself. Yes I get that they had limited time to prepare but that doesn't excuse what they are currently doing now. Doa is an SC2 caster and Ramon is a CS caster. WCG is spreading out the casters. Plus Doa had to cast WC3, FIFA, and a bunch of other random WCG games too. It's not their fault that WCG didn't get more Dota casters. Some time before this week, WCG scheduled the events. Some time before this week, a bunch of english casters got on a plane and went to china. Some time before this week someone should have realized, wait a minute theres only one dota caster coming to cast an event that has 2 dota games. At some point before breakfast on the first morning someone at wcg should have realized they didnt have enough dota casters. At some point before the first games these two casted, someone should have handed them a list of what the names of the heroes are in dota. But none of that happened. I can't believe what you're saying. First you suggest they stay silent for the greater good (lol) on an english stream they are told and paid to cast. Now it seems like you're saying it's somehow the casters' job to last minute spot check who WCG hires, how they organize their event, and their scheduling.
Lets say someone hires a plumber to fix a TV, do you think that plumber should go ahead and take apart the TV and be all like, well I got hired for this job, might as well go ahead and do it. Or maybe, it would be in the plumber's best intrest to ask his electrician buddy to give him some tips. I'm saying that if you realize you have to do a job that you dont know how to do, either dont do it or ask for some help. These two didn't ask for help cos they dont know anything about the game.
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