RaidCall EMS One - Page 39

On February 27 2013 05:41 crms wrote:
Na'Vi are going to have to show INSANE turtle power to pull this one out. On the brightside, they do have the lineup to win if it goes late. They have 2 heroes that can outcarry anyone on NTH. The way it's going though.. I'm not sure Na'Vi can defend long enough, they are getting crushed.

On February 27 2013 05:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


Na'vi can't farm back into this one turtling in their base. The shadowdemon almost has as much networth as naix and LoH rushed a vlads on LD so he isn't going to be farming much.

On February 27 2013 05:46 Jehct wrote:

they definitely can't drag the game out by taking the fight lowground when they have blackhole

i'm so confused about that game lol

On February 27 2013 05:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


When Na'vi lost those two fights and all their outer towers during the first night it was time to gg pretty much. nth solos were several levels ahead and carried them game easily from that point.

On February 27 2013 05:54 Jehct wrote:

I mean continually feeding kills instead of actually contending fights at all kinda helps too. In theory they might get something done if lone druid can split down a tower or two while nth push, but that just wasn't gonna happen the way they were playing lol

On February 27 2013 05:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


I'm not sure you can turtle behind towers when you're facing a nightstalker, even with kotl. It's also hard to run away from nth lineup if they defend their tier 1s instead of trading for tier 2s if you're trying to go that route.

On February 27 2013 05:59 cecek wrote:
Nice play from nth. Didn't expect them doing so well. I think the biggest factor holding them back the last couple weeks with ee was the bad blood in the team. It seems like no one was hapy what was going on in the team, but didn't say anything. Now nth reform and they're in their honeymoon period. Hopefully it will last for them.

On February 27 2013 06:00 Jehct wrote:

Not behind towers, but in your base still you can take a fight if you get some tower gold + druid farm yourself along the way. Like they had kotl, lightofheaven had no reason to be with his team ever unless pushing except for being scared rly. That's why watching nth bear is so awesome - they understand how to use it perfectly, whatever the situation. You can't push as 5, but you can pretend to defend with 3-4 while you trade (or get out if they tp, because they were pushing during mfing daytime rofl)

On February 27 2013 06:03 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


You aren't going to farm back into a game when you're hiding in your base and nth is farming the entire map. Lone Druid is good, but he isn't that good. He also needs a radiance to farm safely that way which LoH didn't even try to build. Naix was their 1 position not bear.

On February 27 2013 06:05 Jehct wrote:

It's bounty and nightstalker v druid and bounty hunter lol you can be multiple items behind and the innate hero carry potential/matchup will let you win, once you get to a certain point

On February 27 2013 06:11 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


You don't ever reach that point if your carries aren't farming though. Navi could never reach that point unless nth decided to siege their base for thirty minutes and never break them. Nightstalker and Bounty might not be hard carries, but if they're two or three items ahead they'll still outcarry you no problem. When the nth supports are also several levels ahead of navi's supports and have huge teamfight items like shiva there is just no coming back.