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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 10 2013 03:21 GMT
#6181
Nice SF play
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 10 2013 03:21 GMT
#6182
On August 10 2013 12:20 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:19 Shaella wrote:
Can I just say that this game is also fucking boring?

i dont know what you want anymore

some kills so i feel like i'm not watching LoL anymore would be a good start

This game is boring in a different way than the last
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
CherryNubCakes
Profile Joined July 2012
United States972 Posts
August 10 2013 03:21 GMT
#6183
On August 10 2013 12:19 Tarot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:18 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:12 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:50 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:47 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:46 TanKLoveR wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:43 trinxified wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:42 TanKLoveR wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:40 Fruscainte wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:38 TanKLoveR wrote:
Ugh you people seriously are ....

You're all about gimicky bs, "OPA DENDI OPA XD!!" like this hook or freaking Ursa and meepo ugh. What a ton of crap, that was a disgusting game and Na'Vi should be ashamed. But nope, everyone stood and screamed and clapped at such a shameful display, there was no skill, no team play just fucking luck. I hope Alliance destroys these people tomorrow, I look forward to it.


OH NO PEOPLE ARE PLAYING TO WIN IN A 1.4 MILLION DOLLAR FIRST PRIZE TOURNAMENT

A BLOO BLOO BLOO

:|

It's not even about Na'Vi doing anything they can to win even if its completely retarded and turned me off from supporting them, it's the fact that people are celebrating this kind of BS. That "victory" was 100% luck, Na'Vi displayed NO skill in that match.


You think Navi cares that you don't support them anymore when they can win 1.4 million?

No they don't give a shit, and I don't give a shit about them now. That was complete crap, it's literally the same as people celebrating and cheering for Idra swearing, calling people names and early GGing. People around here are little kids, so easily pleased by shitty behavior.


but when [A] picks kotl pl it's all hunky-dory for mr. dedicated [A] fan!

double standards 4ever



The difference is that you have to outplay your opponents first to get into a position to abuse PL/Kotl. With fountain hooking, you can be losing the game and hit maybe 2-3 key ones and turn the entire game around.


I can almost guarantee from a player's perspective you'd call bullshit if you lost to it just in a pub game, let alone in a 2 million dollar tournament.

Same thing with Black Hole, RP, Tide Ravage, Wall+Vacuum, etc basically.


All of those skills have high cd's.

And they're all way easier to execute.

And they put you in harm's way, cost a ton of mana, and finally you're screwed if you mess it up. Sure fountain hooks are more difficult but they're also much lower risk.
johnnyb211
Profile Joined July 2013
1452 Posts
August 10 2013 03:21 GMT
#6184
damn hanni going ham
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 10 2013 03:21 GMT
#6185
22 mins, 2 kills LOL
Dear Sixsmith...
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
August 10 2013 03:21 GMT
#6186
On August 10 2013 12:18 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:14 BigAsia wrote:


I think the majority like the fountain hooks... sorry to say guys


Because Na`Vi are insanely popular. If it was TongFu doing it to Na`Vi and the crowd was going crazy for it, then you would have an argument.

I think Navi is popular because of this kind of move. So I'm sure this is some argument.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 10 2013 03:21 GMT
#6187
On August 10 2013 12:21 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:20 DDie wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:18 Fionn wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:14 BigAsia wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxUDuPFNvY

I think the majority like the fountain hooks... sorry to say guys


Because Na`Vi are insanely popular. If it was TongFu doing it to Na`Vi and the crowd was going crazy for it, then you would have an argument.



You really think that's because it's Na'Vi and not because it's a pudge on a playoff elimination game of the international?

yes it's a very large part due to navi

yes, because navi are the only team in the world who would ever do such a strat

what a dumb discussion
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 10 2013 03:22 GMT
#6188
On August 10 2013 12:21 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:20 DDie wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:18 Fionn wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:14 BigAsia wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxUDuPFNvY

I think the majority like the fountain hooks... sorry to say guys


Because Na`Vi are insanely popular. If it was TongFu doing it to Na`Vi and the crowd was going crazy for it, then you would have an argument.



You really think that's because it's Na'Vi and not because it's a pudge on a playoff elimination game of the international?

yes it's a very large part due to navi

Or because it was awesome?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 10 2013 03:22 GMT
#6189
Centaur sound when stumping is really cool.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 10 2013 03:22 GMT
#6190
On August 10 2013 12:21 EchoZ wrote:
22 mins, 2 kills LOL

Incoming 100 minute game
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
August 10 2013 03:22 GMT
#6191
Time to see how fnatic themselves can handle proper rat dota
I speak fluent sarcasm.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
August 10 2013 03:22 GMT
#6192
and people blamed the chinese
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 03:22:58
August 10 2013 03:22 GMT
#6193
On August 10 2013 12:21 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:20 DDie wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:18 Fionn wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:14 BigAsia wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxUDuPFNvY

I think the majority like the fountain hooks... sorry to say guys


Because Na`Vi are insanely popular. If it was TongFu doing it to Na`Vi and the crowd was going crazy for it, then you would have an argument.



You really think that's because it's Na'Vi and not because it's a pudge on a playoff elimination game of the international?

yes it's a very large part due to navi



And how Na'Vi got so popular again?


By making crazy ridiculous plays, and pulling wins out of their asses, perhaps?!
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 10 2013 03:22 GMT
#6194
On August 10 2013 12:21 CherryNubCakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:19 Tarot wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:18 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:12 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:50 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:47 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:46 TanKLoveR wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:43 trinxified wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:42 TanKLoveR wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:40 Fruscainte wrote:
[quote]

OH NO PEOPLE ARE PLAYING TO WIN IN A 1.4 MILLION DOLLAR FIRST PRIZE TOURNAMENT

A BLOO BLOO BLOO

:|

It's not even about Na'Vi doing anything they can to win even if its completely retarded and turned me off from supporting them, it's the fact that people are celebrating this kind of BS. That "victory" was 100% luck, Na'Vi displayed NO skill in that match.


You think Navi cares that you don't support them anymore when they can win 1.4 million?

No they don't give a shit, and I don't give a shit about them now. That was complete crap, it's literally the same as people celebrating and cheering for Idra swearing, calling people names and early GGing. People around here are little kids, so easily pleased by shitty behavior.


but when [A] picks kotl pl it's all hunky-dory for mr. dedicated [A] fan!

double standards 4ever



The difference is that you have to outplay your opponents first to get into a position to abuse PL/Kotl. With fountain hooking, you can be losing the game and hit maybe 2-3 key ones and turn the entire game around.


I can almost guarantee from a player's perspective you'd call bullshit if you lost to it just in a pub game, let alone in a 2 million dollar tournament.

Same thing with Black Hole, RP, Tide Ravage, Wall+Vacuum, etc basically.


All of those skills have high cd's.

And they're all way easier to execute.

And they put you in harm's way, cost a ton of mana, and finally you're screwed if you mess it up. Sure fountain hooks are more difficult but they're also much lower risk.

Do you understand the concept of "farm" and "being on the map" and "2 position"?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 10 2013 03:22 GMT
#6195
LOL THAT WARD?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#6196
Triple Ancient Snack.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
August 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#6197
Kinda offtopic, but I just noticed it: Since when has the default HUD this glow thingy in the bottom? Between map and hero potraits.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#6198
bugged ward

DOTA 2 DED GAEM
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
crc
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia256 Posts
August 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#6199
Fountain hook has existed for years guys. If it was that game breaking, that anti-fun, something would've been done about it. Other teams have tried, I remember a pathetic EG game where trying to fountain hook, and that resulted in them being owned. For most of the game, Tongfu had 3 out of the top 4 most farmed heroes, they needed to take advantage of that and just close out the game. Even if their carry (which they had 2 of, the doom was totally leading the farm earlier on) got hooked and they were 4v4, they still have the upper hand if they stay focused and stop panicking. If you say the doom had little impact, then that's Tongfu's own fault for drafting him and not utilising him.

The fact is, this can be done for a long time, and only now it's been pulled off this way. The more you argue for its brokenness, the more you are highlighting navi's innovativeness.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#6200
On August 10 2013 12:22 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:21 opterown wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:20 DDie wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:18 Fionn wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:14 BigAsia wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxUDuPFNvY

I think the majority like the fountain hooks... sorry to say guys


Because Na`Vi are insanely popular. If it was TongFu doing it to Na`Vi and the crowd was going crazy for it, then you would have an argument.



You really think that's because it's Na'Vi and not because it's a pudge on a playoff elimination game of the international?

yes it's a very large part due to navi



And how Na'Vi got so popular again?


By making crazy ridiculous plays, perhaps?!

#bigplays
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