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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
April 22 2014 16:46 GMT
#3361
the global presence of Navi is crazy
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
April 22 2014 17:12 GMT
#3362
If roxkis get their wombo combo off it will be awesome
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 22 2014 17:20 GMT
#3363
nice gank :D
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
April 22 2014 17:22 GMT
#3364
why bane didn't ult lycan when he was on the tower?
HOMEMdoGAS
Profile Joined October 2012
Portugal1418 Posts
April 22 2014 17:27 GMT
#3365
4
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
April 22 2014 17:27 GMT
#3366
Interesting aegis use.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
April 22 2014 17:28 GMT
#3367
Dat aegis usage.
DarkReign_
Profile Joined September 2012
1250 Posts
April 22 2014 17:30 GMT
#3368
Sloppy plays by both team.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 22 2014 17:36 GMT
#3369
rage quit lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Switters
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada120 Posts
April 22 2014 17:37 GMT
#3370
I love watching Dendi tinker.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-22 19:19:08
April 22 2014 17:39 GMT
#3371
So Navi ends group stages with 5-2.

What do you guys think the odds of them making Top 2 going into the playoffs? Does it work by head to head score for tiebreakers? If it does:

Situations:

EG wins against alliance:

- they are guaranteed first place.
- if Cloud9 wins against Empire and get atleast one win vs Rox or Fnatic, they are through in second.
- if Empire wins against both C9 and Rox, and Cloud9 loses against against Fnatic/Rox, Navi through in second.
- if Empire wins against both C9 and Rox, and Cloud9 wins against Fnatic and Rox, three way tie for second (go to map scores?)...
- If Empire lose against C9 or Rox, and Cloud9 loses to Empire, Rox, or Fnatic... Navi makes it through in second.

And if it comes to mapscore in that one instance:

Empire makes it through if:
- They beat Cloud9 2-0
- They beat Cloud 9 2-1 and Rox 2-0

Cloud9 makes it through if:
-Empire wins both games 2-1, and Cloud9 wins both games 2-0

Navi makes it through if:
-Empire wins both games 2-1, and Cloud 9 wins it's other matches 2-1

Mapscore tie if:
-Empire wins both games 2-1, and Cloud 9 wins one match 2-1 and the other 2-0

Edit: I don't know why I wasted so much time doing this...

Edit2: Actually screw it, I've gone too far - going to go Aligulac on this and see the odds of each of them making it through. I'll give 50:50 odds to Empire beating Cloud 9, and 70:30 odds to Empire/Cloud 9 beating Rox or Fnatic.

Therefore the odds of each instance happening are:

1. 45.5%
2. 17.85%
3. 17.15%
4. 19.5%

If it's a map tie, the instances are:

1: 75%
2: 6.25%
3. 6.25%
4. 12.5%

Therefore, the odds of each team making it out of the group stages in second place, assuming EG beats Alliance are:

Cloud9: 46.57%
Navi: 38.42%
Empire: 12.86%
Perfect Tie: 2.14%


AAAND this is why you run simulations instead of solving these by hand. But, it was kind of fun doing it.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
April 22 2014 17:53 GMT
#3372
On April 23 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
So Navi ends group stages with 5-2.

What do you guys think the odds of them making Top 2 going into the playoffs?

Seeing as there's exactly 1 team (C9) that can tie them and hold tie break advantage over them and they are also the team that can beat them flat out on record (not counting EG who are already through) I'd say the chances are really good for Navi give that C9 is inconsistent with both empire, rox and fnatic left to play. Granted, C9 could always pull a dreamleague and beat everyone in groups but I'd still favor the chances of navi going through top 2.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
April 22 2014 19:18 GMT
#3373
Starladder already having a huge impact with how teams are drafting in C9 vs RoxKis.
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
April 22 2014 19:20 GMT
#3374
On April 23 2014 04:18 wuhan_clan wrote:
Starladder already having a huge impact with how teams are drafting in C9 vs RoxKis.


C9 trying to channel the spirit of Universe.
Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
April 22 2014 19:22 GMT
#3375
Rox.Kis letting Lycan+Shadow Shaman for C9 on Dire side rofl

they have a nice combo though
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 22 2014 19:23 GMT
#3376
Wombo combo gaming, lol.I start to miss the Sven-Magnus-dark seer meta.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
April 22 2014 19:24 GMT
#3377
Ooh interesting. Envy skilling Howl first. Taking a page from DK's Lycan, they see how strong it is for your other if you coordinate your howl with aggression.
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
April 22 2014 19:27 GMT
#3378
THE HOWLING SMOKE GANK. EE skilling Howl over Wolves, I really like this. 8D
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
April 22 2014 19:29 GMT
#3379
Why's the stream quality so poor, weird to see in this day and age.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
April 22 2014 19:31 GMT
#3380
On April 23 2014 04:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wombo combo gaming, lol.I start to miss the Sven-Magnus-dark seer meta.

Nope, Sven/Mag era was the worst. Stack Stack Stack Stack 2 SHOT ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM
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