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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
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Arkhe
France116 Posts
On November 25 2014 14:36 TBone- wrote: Is there ever a scenario where you have a jungler and pick Visage as a solo lane support? Whenever I try this it always seems to flop throughout the whole game. I never really get ags, I don't feel very good as a lane support alone as Visage, and I just end up not being all that relevant. I find that visage is better with level than stuff, solo supporting mean also more xp. But if you know you will solo support there is better one than visage. Execpt if you have a sick dual combo with visage | ||
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
Separate to above Razor is a strong counter to Visage, your birds are usually the lowest health units nearby and Eye of the Storm just tears them up with only a few strikes. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Archeon
3253 Posts
On November 25 2014 14:36 TBone- wrote: Is there ever a scenario where you have a jungler and pick Visage as a solo lane support? Whenever I try this it always seems to flop throughout the whole game. I never really get ags, I don't feel very good as a lane support alone as Visage, and I just end up not being all that relevant. Only in conjunction with a hero that dishes out high burst damage already. I often have difficulties getting a max damage soul assumption in dual lanes and that's a big part of visage's early game usefulness. For example a clinkz or viper lane could work with visage, but both are usually better off without him unless visage makes the difference between them dying or not. Actually birds are quite vulnerable against everything that buys a blink dagger, heroes like pa and blink prophet destroy them. So I agree that scouting with them isnt always great. That being said familiars are really good for checking rosh. Also: Opinions on 1:2:2:1 vs 1:3:1:1? I have seen 1:2:2:1 multiple times now and it gives you a lot more sustain, which is nice for a second or third soul assumption and for early skirmishes. But theoretically you want to do damage frontloaded, so I can see the point of 1:3:1:1 too. | ||
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Mecha King Ghidorah
United States595 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Realistically it's likely to be an off-beat game if ur visage has aghs/ac and is looking to pick up more luxury items. Hex, necrobook, refresher, all aren't terrible options. Shiva's could work although you likely don't need armor after AC and the rest is preeeetty expensive for the benefit it gives you. E-blade or force staff to help ur team might be valuable, or they might not (depending on the game). You can't really answer those questions without being in the exact game imo. | ||
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Mecha King Ghidorah
United States595 Posts
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
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Arkhe
France116 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On November 25 2014 14:40 Jinxed wrote: No. A visage with no farm is useless. Before the nerf to his base armor and magic resist you could, but anymore you can't get away with it. just as a side-note, this kind of usage of "anymore" is nonstandard and limited to certain regions; most english speakers will find it strange http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_anymore | ||
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ASoo
2864 Posts
On November 30 2014 00:56 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: just as a side-note, this kind of usage of "anymore" is nonstandard and limited to certain regions; most english speakers will find it strange http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_anymore just as a side-note, pointing out people's dialect variations and telling them that they're "nonstandard" isn't really very helpful; most people will find it irritating and elitist | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On November 30 2014 08:13 ASoo wrote: just as a side-note, pointing out people's dialect variations and telling them that they're "nonstandard" isn't really very helpful; most people will find it irritating and elitist kay | ||
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Rodrak
United States165 Posts
Items needed; Agh's, Refresher's. (Good Luck getting that farm) Summon Familiars, wait 140 Seconds. Stun with each familiar (1.5 * 3 = 4.5 Seconds) Re-Summon Stun With Each (4.5 Seconds) Refresh, Re-Summon Stun with Each (4.5) This results in a 13.5 second stun when maximized. More than likely you will get a 10 second stun. However you could also get the other outcome, which is a lose for your team because their Support is a Core. Just a thought. : / | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On March 07 2015 10:52 Rodrak wrote: I was thinking today, you could have the longest stun in the game if you play it right. Items needed; Agh's, Refresher's. (Good Luck getting that farm) Summon Familiars, wait 140 Seconds. Stun with each familiar (1.5 * 3 = 4.5 Seconds) Re-Summon Stun With Each (4.5 Seconds) Refresh, Re-Summon Stun with Each (4.5) This results in a 13.5 second stun when maximized. More than likely you will get a 10 second stun. However you could also get the other outcome, which is a lose for your team because their Support is a Core. Just a thought. : / Playing visage around the stun is one of the worst approaches to play. | ||
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
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DazzleEnthusiast
United States72 Posts
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1948 Posts
On November 30 2014 08:13 ASoo wrote: just as a side-note, pointing out people's dialect variations and telling them that they're "nonstandard" isn't really very helpful; most people will find it irritating and elitist Well, I learned something. I just thought he made a spelling mistake, didn't even know "positive anymore was a thing." Now I do. | ||
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