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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 15 2014 00:45 GMT
#18421
Just to be clear, when you have multiple boots, only the movement speed doesn't stack (you benefit from the fastest one). Other stats provided by the slower boots still benefit you. For example when a carry lategame buys Travels while still carrying Treads (a conceivable scenario where you might have 2 Boots), you don't lose the Treads' +8 Stats and +30 AS, while still benefiting from the faster MS of the Travels.
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 01:36:24
July 15 2014 01:31 GMT
#18422
On July 14 2014 22:07 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What's the best thing to do with excess player cards? Sell them on the market or do a one time big time offering?

Make a big time offering (after trading the more rare ones. The rares are wayto illidanstr xiangxii xiao8 YYF xtinct yamateh zai yao, although only wayto illidanstr xiangxii and yao are "well-known" to be rare and therefore more people seem to want them).

There are some people that traded around 1k to 2k cards http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/298jeh/q_what_should_i_get_if_i_offered_3200_items/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/28mkgt/q_what_if_i_offered_1286_items/

Uhh scratch all that, looks like the offering got nerfed. I personally will probably hold onto my cards and wait for another offering to come up with a different event (unless the expiring means that they disappear from my inventory? I'll have to research that unless someone here knows about expiration). yes it does. So now I have a conundrum on my hands as to what to do with my cards
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 15 2014 01:33 GMT
#18423
On July 15 2014 10:31 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 22:07 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What's the best thing to do with excess player cards? Sell them on the market or do a one time big time offering?

Make a big time offering (after trading the more rare ones. The rares are wayto illidanstr xiangxii xiao8 YYF xtinct yamateh zai yao, although only wayto illidanstr xiangxii and yao are "well-known" to be rare and therefore more people seem to want them).

There are some people that traded around 1k to 2k cards http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/298jeh/q_what_should_i_get_if_i_offered_3200_items/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/28mkgt/q_what_if_i_offered_1286_items/

Uhh scratch all that, looks like the offering got nerfed. I personally will probably hold onto my cards and wait for another offering to come up with a different event (unless the expiring means that they disappear from my inventory? I'll have to research that unless someone here knows about expiration).


Expiration is self explanatory. The items disappear.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
July 15 2014 02:11 GMT
#18424
On July 15 2014 09:45 TheYango wrote:
Just to be clear, when you have multiple boots, only the movement speed doesn't stack (you benefit from the fastest one). Other stats provided by the slower boots still benefit you. For example when a carry lategame buys Travels while still carrying Treads (a conceivable scenario where you might have 2 Boots), you don't lose the Treads' +8 Stats and +30 AS, while still benefiting from the faster MS of the Travels.


Thanks m8
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
July 15 2014 02:12 GMT
#18425
On July 15 2014 10:33 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 10:31 Birdie wrote:
On July 14 2014 22:07 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What's the best thing to do with excess player cards? Sell them on the market or do a one time big time offering?

Make a big time offering (after trading the more rare ones. The rares are wayto illidanstr xiangxii xiao8 YYF xtinct yamateh zai yao, although only wayto illidanstr xiangxii and yao are "well-known" to be rare and therefore more people seem to want them).

There are some people that traded around 1k to 2k cards http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/298jeh/q_what_should_i_get_if_i_offered_3200_items/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/28mkgt/q_what_if_i_offered_1286_items/

Uhh scratch all that, looks like the offering got nerfed. I personally will probably hold onto my cards and wait for another offering to come up with a different event (unless the expiring means that they disappear from my inventory? I'll have to research that unless someone here knows about expiration).


Expiration is self explanatory. The items disappear.


What should we do with the ton of card packs? Sell them unopened or wait to sell? Or any idea?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
July 15 2014 02:14 GMT
#18426
I've started just using mine and building up the Silver and Gold level gems.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 15 2014 02:47 GMT
#18427
On July 15 2014 11:12 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 10:33 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 15 2014 10:31 Birdie wrote:
On July 14 2014 22:07 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What's the best thing to do with excess player cards? Sell them on the market or do a one time big time offering?

Make a big time offering (after trading the more rare ones. The rares are wayto illidanstr xiangxii xiao8 YYF xtinct yamateh zai yao, although only wayto illidanstr xiangxii and yao are "well-known" to be rare and therefore more people seem to want them).

There are some people that traded around 1k to 2k cards http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/298jeh/q_what_should_i_get_if_i_offered_3200_items/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/28mkgt/q_what_if_i_offered_1286_items/

Uhh scratch all that, looks like the offering got nerfed. I personally will probably hold onto my cards and wait for another offering to come up with a different event (unless the expiring means that they disappear from my inventory? I'll have to research that unless someone here knows about expiration).


Expiration is self explanatory. The items disappear.


What should we do with the ton of card packs? Sell them unopened or wait to sell? Or any idea?


Selling the packs is easier unless you open the rare cards. Too hard to sell ten cards at one cent each.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 06:59:47
July 15 2014 06:56 GMT
#18428
Okay, does the "whole team leaves, don't get an abandon" thing still work?

Tried it twice today as a 5 stack and got an abandon because someone pressed "leave game", but when we didn't leave the game just sat there for multiple minutes waiting for us to recon.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
July 15 2014 07:18 GMT
#18429
On July 15 2014 15:56 Belisarius wrote:
Okay, does the "whole team leaves, don't get an abandon" thing still work?

Tried it twice today as a 5 stack and got an abandon because someone pressed "leave game", but when we didn't leave the game just sat there for multiple minutes waiting for us to recon.

I don't think it works anymore
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 15 2014 07:29 GMT
#18430
On July 15 2014 11:14 Excalibur_Z wrote:
I've started just using mine and building up the Silver and Gold level gems.

Same as me, I'm selling the rares and building all the other teams, swapping cards from teams with rares in them for ones that I need to complete the gems.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
ReligionLOL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
July 15 2014 10:16 GMT
#18431
just wondering: generally speaking (i.e. assume u will be one of any of the 'standard' mid heros) which other mid hero do you least like to play against? or i guess what im asking is this: i give u a random mid hero and before u know which hero u are, u get to ban 5 mid heros from the other team, which 5 would u ban even tho u dont know which hero u will be yet.
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
July 15 2014 10:34 GMT
#18432
Viper OD Razor TA Pudge. Pudge because even if you own him in lane he's going to succesfully gank other lanes and you're gonna get blamed for it.
ReligionLOL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
July 15 2014 10:35 GMT
#18433
not PA?
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
ReligionLOL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 11:11:03
July 15 2014 11:10 GMT
#18434
I would add to the list pa, kunka, and bs. sometimes even pugna just b/c he can be such a bitch about not letting you get denies
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
July 15 2014 11:21 GMT
#18435
If you can bottle-crow I don't find Kunkka to be a problem.

BS is annoying, but if I play well with a hero like Invoker with good lasthitting and zoning power I can zone him out pretty well while getting 90% of lasthits and denies. Also carrying a TP works wonders.

PA can get lasthits every 4s with maxed dagger which is annoying, otherwise I don't find any problems with that match up. She's weak to magic damage which many mids have in abundance until she hits BKB, and she won't get it very quickly if you can zone her with magic damage every time she tries to lasthit with her autos.

The thing about the heroes Awful_ listed is that they have massive amounts of auto-win match ups outside of Pudge, meaning if they're any good, you will get 0 cs while they will get 100% cs (assuming creeps are fighting in river, not pushing to your tower) while still having solid solo kill potential in the cases of Viper, Razor, and TA. This isn't so much the case with the heroes you picked, as they can still be played against while winning lane and having a larger impact on the game.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 15 2014 14:44 GMT
#18436
On July 15 2014 16:18 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 15:56 Belisarius wrote:
Okay, does the "whole team leaves, don't get an abandon" thing still work?

Tried it twice today as a 5 stack and got an abandon because someone pressed "leave game", but when we didn't leave the game just sat there for multiple minutes waiting for us to recon.

I don't think it works anymore

? really?
why not o_O
:)
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
July 15 2014 14:49 GMT
#18437
On July 15 2014 15:56 Belisarius wrote:
Okay, does the "whole team leaves, don't get an abandon" thing still work?

Tried it twice today as a 5 stack and got an abandon because someone pressed "leave game", but when we didn't leave the game just sat there for multiple minutes waiting for us to recon.


My understanding of the way it works is that if everyone on one team disconnects, then the game ends in a loss and not an abandon. The key word here being 'disconnect'. This includes just leaving the game without abandoning it, meaning you're on the screen where it gives you the option to reconnect. If you actually abandon, then even if everybody else on your team left, you get the abandon. Also, since you're playing in a 5-stack, if anybody else on your team abandons, you get an abandon as well.

This means that your entire team would need to be on the Reconnect screen for I think a minute before the game ends. Of course, this is just my understanding of it, I'm more than willing to be proven wrong.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 15 2014 14:52 GMT
#18438
once upon a time that worked but not anymore basically. Not sure why. That coupled with no "GG" in the new TMM means that there's really no reason to TMM. Apart from not gaining/losing mmr while playing "ranked" lel.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 23:11:46
July 15 2014 23:10 GMT
#18439
I thought TMM affected your party mmr now, and you could still gg?

18th June 2014 patch
Team Matchmaking
Team matchmaking is now merged into ranked matchmaking
To play as a team, prepare a party of five for ranked matchmaking. Then select the option to play using the team identity.
Max team roster size increased from 5 to 7. Any team roster change will reset the team MMR.
You may not create a team or be a member of a team until you reach level 13. (Existing teams with players lower than level 13 are not removed from the roster, but will be prevented from matchmaking.)
Abandonment rules and available game modes are now the same as ordinary ranked matchmaking.
You may not participate in team matchmaking while in the low priority matchmaking pool.
Teams will only be matched against other ranked parties of five, preferably against other parties playing using a team identity, but potentially against ordinary parties not using a team identity.

Doesn't say anything about if you can still gg out. Actually, it doesn't say if party mmr changes either, but I assumed it did, since it's merged with ranked matchmaking
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 23:16:08
July 15 2014 23:13 GMT
#18440
On July 15 2014 23:49 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 15:56 Belisarius wrote:
Okay, does the "whole team leaves, don't get an abandon" thing still work?

Tried it twice today as a 5 stack and got an abandon because someone pressed "leave game", but when we didn't leave the game just sat there for multiple minutes waiting for us to recon.


My understanding of the way it works is that if everyone on one team disconnects, then the game ends in a loss and not an abandon. The key word here being 'disconnect'. This includes just leaving the game without abandoning it, meaning you're on the screen where it gives you the option to reconnect. If you actually abandon, then even if everybody else on your team left, you get the abandon. Also, since you're playing in a 5-stack, if anybody else on your team abandons, you get an abandon as well.

This means that your entire team would need to be on the Reconnect screen for I think a minute before the game ends. Of course, this is just my understanding of it, I'm more than willing to be proven wrong.


Yeah that's what happened the second time. We all disconnected and sat staring at the reconnect screen for 4 minutes, decided to rejoin to find the other team fountain farming our heroes, and got camped for another ten. Dota is great sometimes.

Disappointing they removed it. It wasn't even being abused as far as I know, because you still got a loss.
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