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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 23 2013 06:55 GMT
#8241
I've done solo rosh from jungle (less farm) with naked vlads, no boots, and level 5. The trick even at lower levels, you will outregen him while you overpower even at low fury swipe stacks, so if you kite him to the edge of the pit in between overpowers, you won't take as much damage, and you'll leech it all back when you overpower.
I'm not sure if you lifesteal off enrage.
And mathematically leveling overpower does more damage than fury swipes at level 3+ (to non-roshan).
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 23 2013 13:01 GMT
#8242
is there any kind of mmr? and is it hidden or can i see it? how?

thanks!
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 23 2013 13:11 GMT
#8243
On April 23 2013 22:01 teddyoojo wrote:
is there any kind of mmr? and is it hidden or can i see it? how?

thanks!


MMR exists but is hidden.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
April 23 2013 13:44 GMT
#8244
On April 23 2013 22:01 teddyoojo wrote:
is there any kind of mmr? and is it hidden or can i see it? how?

thanks!


You can check your game bracket history by clicking the watch tab, then recent games, and then filter your name for very high, high, and normal to see what bracket you've been playing in
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
April 23 2013 15:40 GMT
#8245
Is there any bugs right now tht I can abuse? xD
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8904 Posts
April 23 2013 15:49 GMT
#8246
On April 24 2013 00:40 therockmanxx wrote:
Is there any bugs right now tht I can abuse? xD

so many. none are as game changing as what youre hoping for though. man up and play the game properly
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 23 2013 15:57 GMT
#8247
I recommend attempting to chen-convert roshan immediately following each patch. It's worked before
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 23 2013 16:01 GMT
#8248
On April 24 2013 00:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
I recommend attempting to chen-convert roshan immediately following each patch. It's worked before


That only happened when they changed holy persuasion. It shouldn't randomly break again.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 23 2013 16:13 GMT
#8249
but when it does he will be the first to win a game from it

I really wish I hadnt missed that bug, it was only around for like 2 or 3 hours before it got hotfixed
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
April 23 2013 19:04 GMT
#8250
On April 23 2013 12:02 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 11:38 shizaep wrote:
Quick noob question:
At what level/items can Ursa begin to solo Rosh?

Basically as soon as he has Vlads

And a smoke of deceit if you don't want to give your opponents a free kill and an aegis.
Dodge arrows
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#8251
Smoke Roshing is only relevant in that narrow skill range where players are smart enough to ward against early Rosh attempts, but not smart enough to also use sentries.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 23 2013 19:18 GMT
#8252
On April 24 2013 04:08 TheYango wrote:
Smoke Roshing is only relevant in that narrow skill range where players are smart enough to ward against early Rosh attempts, but not smart enough to also use sentries.


I'm not sure it's THAT narrow. My other comment being that smoke removes you from the minimap (much like PA's blur) so people have to spend time with their screen on the rosh entrance anyway. That seems pretty unlikely.
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 19:29:36
April 23 2013 19:27 GMT
#8253
The likelyhood of the support putting both Obs AND Sentry is extremelly low. If the Support is 'good' enough to ward Roshan, then he's also poor as fuck because that's just how 5ths roll. He won't be able to constantly put 200-gold sentries every 3 minutes (well I guess it's actually 200 gold every 6 minutes but the point stands) because he needs those god-damn boots/bracer/arcane boots/whatever it is us poor supports have to scrounge up with our spare change.

though I guess if it's 200 gold for every 6 minutes then it's probably worth it since it 'shuts down' Ursa

oh yeah, my question - Clinkz. His whole purpose is to get a quick Orchid, gank people via silence&Strafe, right? so...what's to stop people from just TPing away, just like vs Bloodseeker?
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 23 2013 19:28 GMT
#8254
On April 24 2013 04:08 TheYango wrote:
Smoke Roshing is only relevant in that narrow skill range where players are smart enough to ward against early Rosh attempts, but not smart enough to also use sentries.

Well, you also have to notice the Ursa when he is walking across the sentried path (if you are paying close enough attention).

Sometimes you'll just get lucky and make it across without anyone knowing.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 23 2013 19:29 GMT
#8255
On April 24 2013 04:27 hooahah wrote:
The likelyhood of the support putting both Obs AND Sentry is extremelly low. If the Support is 'good' enough to ward Roshan, then he's also poor as fuck because that's just how 5ths roll. He won't be able to constantly put 200-gold sentries every 3 minutes (well I guess it's actually 200 gold every 6 minutes but the point stands) because he needs those god-damn boots/bracer/arcane boots/whatever it is us poor supports have to scrounge up with our spare change.

though I guess if it's 200 gold for every 6 minutes then it's probably worth it since it 'shuts down' Ursa


you only need one sentry to catch a stupid ursa at rosh for a free kill and a free aegis
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
April 23 2013 19:31 GMT
#8256
On April 24 2013 04:29 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 04:27 hooahah wrote:
The likelyhood of the support putting both Obs AND Sentry is extremelly low. If the Support is 'good' enough to ward Roshan, then he's also poor as fuck because that's just how 5ths roll. He won't be able to constantly put 200-gold sentries every 3 minutes (well I guess it's actually 200 gold every 6 minutes but the point stands) because he needs those god-damn boots/bracer/arcane boots/whatever it is us poor supports have to scrounge up with our spare change.

though I guess if it's 200 gold for every 6 minutes then it's probably worth it since it 'shuts down' Ursa


you only need one sentry to catch a stupid ursa at rosh for a free kill and a free aegis


that's not how it works, sadly just because you only need 'one' effective sentry doesn't mean that you don't waste a lot of money on other sentries, just as if winning the lottery requires only one ticket.

I stand corrected however, it's most definitely worth it to sentry Roshan in case of an Ursa. A different possible solution though - just warding the jungle? that way you can keep tabs on how farmed the Ursa is, where he is (or isn't) and so on
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 23 2013 19:42 GMT
#8257
On April 24 2013 04:31 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 04:29 Kupon3ss wrote:
On April 24 2013 04:27 hooahah wrote:
The likelyhood of the support putting both Obs AND Sentry is extremelly low. If the Support is 'good' enough to ward Roshan, then he's also poor as fuck because that's just how 5ths roll. He won't be able to constantly put 200-gold sentries every 3 minutes (well I guess it's actually 200 gold every 6 minutes but the point stands) because he needs those god-damn boots/bracer/arcane boots/whatever it is us poor supports have to scrounge up with our spare change.

though I guess if it's 200 gold for every 6 minutes then it's probably worth it since it 'shuts down' Ursa


you only need one sentry to catch a stupid ursa at rosh for a free kill and a free aegis


that's not how it works, sadly just because you only need 'one' effective sentry doesn't mean that you don't waste a lot of money on other sentries, just as if winning the lottery requires only one ticket.

I stand corrected however, it's most definitely worth it to sentry Roshan in case of an Ursa. A different possible solution though - just warding the jungle? that way you can keep tabs on how farmed the Ursa is, where he is (or isn't) and so on


You don't have enough wards to keep vision of the entire jungle.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
April 23 2013 19:43 GMT
#8258
On April 24 2013 04:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 04:08 TheYango wrote:
Smoke Roshing is only relevant in that narrow skill range where players are smart enough to ward against early Rosh attempts, but not smart enough to also use sentries.


I'm not sure it's THAT narrow. My other comment being that smoke removes you from the minimap (much like PA's blur) so people have to spend time with their screen on the rosh entrance anyway. That seems pretty unlikely.

Eh, in pub games you're lucky if the supports even upgrade courier for you
Dodge arrows
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 20:02:56
April 23 2013 20:01 GMT
#8259
On April 24 2013 04:27 hooahah wrote:oh yeah, my question - Clinkz. His whole purpose is to get a quick Orchid, gank people via silence&Strafe, right? so...what's to stop people from just TPing away, just like vs Bloodseeker?


Clinkz has reliable damage output (searing arrows and strafe), BS requires you to move in order to do his damage.

EDIT: technically he can't stop people from TPing away, but with an orchid and max arrows you should do enough to get the kill in the time it takes them to realize what is happening, then tp away.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
April 23 2013 20:03 GMT
#8260
On April 24 2013 04:43 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 04:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 24 2013 04:08 TheYango wrote:
Smoke Roshing is only relevant in that narrow skill range where players are smart enough to ward against early Rosh attempts, but not smart enough to also use sentries.


I'm not sure it's THAT narrow. My other comment being that smoke removes you from the minimap (much like PA's blur) so people have to spend time with their screen on the rosh entrance anyway. That seems pretty unlikely.

Eh, in pub games you're lucky if the supports even upgrade courier for you

Once you hit higher MMR levels, it's usually done automatically, and if not simply asking the supports politely will usually have it done. Of course you'll still get exceptions here and there. *cough*Nyovne*cough*
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