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theaxis12
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
December 18 2012 04:34 GMT
#5341
I have never won a lane vs. a Lone Druid, even 2v1. He sits so far back and the bear and creeps do too much damage for me to harass him. I don't know if I should harass the bear, or just last hit, or abandon the lane so we don't split XP. What do you guys do vs. LD?
Shut your mouth and put your head back in the clouds.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 18 2012 04:42 GMT
#5342
wisp + blank seems to do abnormally well against him. Suddenly you can't space as well, and while usually druid is pretty hard to kill, I've seen admiral bulldog with a great start swearing at a tiny-wisp which was instant killing him in bear form.
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
December 18 2012 08:41 GMT
#5343
Why are all admiral bulldog's replays unavailable? I want to examine his builds and playstyles. Who else plays a top tier silly bear?
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
December 18 2012 10:22 GMT
#5344
On December 18 2012 17:41 bardtown wrote:
Why are all admiral bulldog's replays unavailable? I want to examine his builds and playstyles. Who else plays a top tier silly bear?


TC from Liquid plays it quite often in tournament games, don't know how often he does in pubs though.
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
December 18 2012 14:33 GMT
#5345
is it possible that 2 meepos swap places? If you had macro (or maybe do it manually) where both would cast poof at the same time on each other, what would happen?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 18 2012 14:35 GMT
#5346
It depends on the way it is coded really, I don't think we have the data on that
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 18 2012 14:36 GMT
#5347
What gold/min is a comfortable figure for tinker assuming one maxes march and gets bots?
Hey! How you doin'?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
December 18 2012 14:37 GMT
#5348
On December 18 2012 23:36 Zdrastochye wrote:
What gold/min is a comfortable figure for tinker assuming one maxes march and gets bots?

How long is a piece of string? :/ Higher the better but you don't want to take farm from your carries.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 18 2012 14:58 GMT
#5349
So over 1k games of playing tinker, doing the same opening item build every game, what would be a solid gold/min number that would justify playing in such a manner?
Hey! How you doin'?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
December 18 2012 15:00 GMT
#5350
If you are absolutely forcing me to give you a number, I guess 450+ in games that you win is good.

It's still a completely arbitrary number though.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 18 2012 15:07 GMT
#5351
That's fine, I just wanted any number at all. Thank you.
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Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
December 18 2012 15:41 GMT
#5352
is there a way to bind item-alerts to hotkeys?
like when i want to notify allies to come close for arcane, i have to rightclick them, drag down and select alert.
totally uncomfy, takes forever and mouse and focus are out of position.

so, i would prefer to hit 1 button and the "grouphug fro arcane here"-ping goes down.
Ooooh, look at it go
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 18 2012 16:00 GMT
#5353
On December 18 2012 17:41 bardtown wrote:
Why are all admiral bulldog's replays unavailable? I want to examine his builds and playstyles. Who else plays a top tier silly bear?

Zhou Burning Sylar
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 18 2012 16:02 GMT
#5354
You can also sort by hero at http://www.dota-academy.com/home/
And then look at replays and see which teams used him when, and decide if they are teams you want to watch play him. Those are professional games though and not pubs, but still.

For direct list to LD: http://www.dota-academy.com/hero/68/
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
December 18 2012 16:09 GMT
#5355
Which items should I get for Viper? I went with Power Treads, Aghanim's Scepter, Sange+Yasha, Butterfly, Linken's Sphere.
I think getting the Scepter asap makes sense but what should come after that?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 18 2012 16:14 GMT
#5356
On December 19 2012 01:09 nimbim wrote:
Which items should I get for Viper? I went with Power Treads, Aghanim's Scepter, Sange+Yasha, Butterfly, Linken's Sphere.
I think getting the Scepter asap makes sense but what should come after that?

Phase Boots are typically better for Viper than Treads. There are situations that call for Treads, but Viper generally needs the mobility for chasing/disengaging/re-engaging.

There are a lot of different ways to itemize Viper, so it's hard to call out one particular build as straight-up bad. One of the more common Chinese styles is to build heavily defensive items (something like Urn->Janggo->Heart) and then transition onto half-defensive, half-offensive items after that, once your defenses are sufficient (Manta, Butterfly, AC). The intent is to be able to absorb the first round of spells, due to having high defensive stats, and Corrosive Skin, and then be able to disengage, and then re-engage with Heart regen or Urn healing to clean up the fight.

The stand-out problems with your item choices are that S&Y isn't all that good on him (Manta fits the hero much better since he doesn't need the maim at all), and Linken's involves a lot of wasted stats for him (since he has virtually no use for the mana regen component).
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 16:20:33
December 18 2012 16:17 GMT
#5357
It really depends on the enemy line-up and well yeah.
Phase boots are great on him, good situational items include:
Heart, Manta, Butterfly, Drums, Hood, Pipe, Aghanim, AC, S&Y if your goal is to get heaven's halberd and manta, sometimes BKB and sometimes daedalus or MKB.

I can't really give you a set in stone build for him, but you want surviveability, i usually build my viper according to the enemy team, but i very often get drums because he benefits so nicely from the added chasing power, and early vit booster is also nice and against most teams a hood of defiance gives you the hp regen you need ontop of massive surviveability, and upgrading into a pipe is great if your team needs it. Heaven's halberd has obvious uses and so does manta, butterfly is great later on for added DPS and surviveability granted that you're not building HH and heart is just an all around amazing item on viper. BKB can be good but very situational IMO, mkb is great if you need the true strike and daedalus is great for good DPS.
Aghanim is decent if you're going for a ton of early fights and you can get it after your boots + a small item like vit booster or so. I wouldn't personally recommend getting aghanim after another big item. S&Y can work if you're planning to rush HH and manta, but just going straight for one over the other might be better. AC also adds good suviveability and decent damage output.

Edit: God damn ninjas.

Edit2: Oh and occasionally mekansm can work if you have nobody else to get it in your team, adds good surviveability.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
December 18 2012 16:25 GMT
#5358
Yo Yango stop calling it Janggo, you're confusing the poor Dota2 newcommers.
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nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
December 18 2012 16:39 GMT
#5359
Thank you both.
Also, yes I'm a newbie and had no idea what Janggo is. Drums of Endurance are meant if anyone else wonders.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 18 2012 18:44 GMT
#5360
Haha, from reading the forums, I always call drums Janggos now :p

Could anyone recommend some good QoP players I could watch? Dota 2 or Dota is fine, if I can find the videos.
you gotta dance
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