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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8866 Posts
ideally you should go phase and euls for the movespeed. bloodstone on top of that gives you a whole bunch of useless stats besides the hp and hp regen. the mana and mana regen isn't needed because you won't run out assuming there's at least 1 arcane boots holder and you still have your bottle. 110 mana for swarm plus 90? for silence and a couple hundred for ultimate still leaves a huge amount of mana for your swarm spam mid game. don't agree with the above build (yasha and to a lesser extent drums) however, because dp isn't tiny. getting yasha solely for movespeed purposes isn't a worthy investment. drums is a decent item but the speed dp farms at with his swarm and ultimate allows her to go for a bigger item quicker without losing effectiveness early. just don't get over confident with your ultimate early on and rambo in, position yourself decently and you should survive early game skirmishes allowing yourself to save up for a bigger item. shivas, heart, pipe, hex or even skadi would be better imo | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:09 TheSubtleArt wrote: Thanks for the reply. For death prophet I'm copying a build a friend showed me where i get arcane boots, eventually disassemble them to build the final item for bloodstone, then use the boots of speed to make phase boots (at which point I no longer need the mana regen of arcane boots). I'm more asking what lategame items i should after that though? If I'm a tanky hero should i be considering heart of torrasque? That seems like it would allow to better help pushes in conjunction with my ult. There was also an item that cost 4700 that let me cast a circle of frost around myself that seemed pretty good (forget the name) after bloodstone I suggest you go Boots of Travel instead so you can go anywhere on the map and push multiple lane, next is heart so that you can absorb more damage during your ulti and to top it off Refresher Orb for double Ulti  Shadow blade is also good since you can Ulti then shadow blade and if they dont have detection, they cant target you (as long as you dont attack or cast spell) | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On December 07 2012 13:48 evilfatsh1t wrote: I agree with dropping bloodstone ideally you should go phase and euls for the movespeed. bloodstone on top of that gives you a whole bunch of useless stats besides the hp and hp regen. the mana and mana regen isn't needed because you won't run out assuming there's at least 1 arcane boots holder and you still have your bottle. 110 mana for swarm plus 90? for silence and a couple hundred for ultimate still leaves a huge amount of mana for your swarm spam mid game. don't agree with the above build (yasha and to a lesser extent drums) however, because dp isn't tiny. getting yasha solely for movespeed purposes isn't a worthy investment. drums is a decent item but the speed dp farms at with his swarm and ultimate allows her to go for a bigger item quicker without losing effectiveness early. just don't get over confident with your ultimate early on and rambo in, position yourself decently and you should survive early game skirmishes allowing yourself to save up for a bigger item. shivas, heart, pipe, hex or even skadi would be better imo I'm not really being serious with my above-suggested build. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8866 Posts
On December 07 2012 17:13 flamewheel wrote: I'm not really being serious with my above-suggested build. Sarcasm doesnt really work in text | ||
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Rodberd
Germany531 Posts
which items can i get from the sideshop? Arcane boots says i can get boots (confirmed) and e-booster there. Sideshop syas there is no e-booster to sell. is that only a mistake for the sideshop-entry, or are there more items missing? | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8866 Posts
so can ring of health go into the game and just look at the items in game... | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
On December 07 2012 19:58 Rodberd wrote: im confused ... which items can i get from the sideshop? Arcane boots says i can get boots (confirmed) and e-booster there. Sideshop syas there is no e-booster to sell. is that only a mistake for the sideshop-entry, or are there more items missing? They're both there in the third column. Look more carefully. | ||
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Rodberd
Germany531 Posts
On December 07 2012 20:08 Firebolt145 wrote: They're both there in the third column. Look more carefully. -.- you are right, there is just no pic for the booster ... thats what i was mainly looking for ... well ok, learned sth again | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
On December 07 2012 20:16 Rodberd wrote: -.- you are right, there is just no pic for the booster ... thats what i was mainly looking for ... well ok, learned sth again Picture is showing for me. | ||
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njt7
Sweden769 Posts
On December 07 2012 13:48 evilfatsh1t wrote: I agree with dropping bloodstone ideally you should go phase and euls for the movespeed. bloodstone on top of that gives you a whole bunch of useless stats besides the hp and hp regen. the mana and mana regen isn't needed because you won't run out assuming there's at least 1 arcane boots holder and you still have your bottle. 110 mana for swarm plus 90? for silence and a couple hundred for ultimate still leaves a huge amount of mana for your swarm spam mid game. don't agree with the above build (yasha and to a lesser extent drums) however, because dp isn't tiny. getting yasha solely for movespeed purposes isn't a worthy investment. drums is a decent item but the speed dp farms at with his swarm and ultimate allows her to go for a bigger item quicker without losing effectiveness early. just don't get over confident with your ultimate early on and rambo in, position yourself decently and you should survive early game skirmishes allowing yourself to save up for a bigger item. shivas, heart, pipe, hex or even skadi would be better imo The lvl 4 swarm is actually 165. It is quite a lot. One pair of arcane boots will barely let you cast one more swarm each 55:e second. big mana regen is really important to not run out of mana during a drawn out fight. Euls is awesome on death prophet sure. But I still think bloodstone is really good for her. You are supposed to push and win rather early with her. You are supposed to be the main target for the enemy team when going 5v5. Having bloodstone will boost your team if they actually manage to kill you. And if they do you will respawn shortly because of the reduced respawn time with some charges letting you comeback into the fight before your enemies respawn to push those precious raxes. I think bloodstone is needed because it fits so well with the way you are supposed to play her. Force the issue and push their base everytime your ult is off cd. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On December 07 2012 19:58 Rodberd wrote: im confused ... which items can i get from the sideshop? Arcane boots says i can get boots (confirmed) and e-booster there. Sideshop syas there is no e-booster to sell. is that only a mistake for the sideshop-entry, or are there more items missing? A basic tl;dr that helped me in the beginning is that all boots (except for tranquils and travels) can be completed from just the sideshop. On top of that the key items you can also complete from there are Hood, Helm of the Dominator and Oblivion Staff. That's 5 things to remember but includes lots of components. Besides that I'd say the only truely important thing is the Blink Dagger. http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Side_Lane_Shop | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
Like ranked solo/duo and ranked 5s? I've been loving Dota2 but missing ranked play. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I don't think even Valve are certain on this one, they are gauging how the community responds to no visible KDR/MMR/ELO/etc. Not even a visible Win/Loss for any1 except yourself. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Like, there are 3x tier 3s plus 2x tier 4s, plus a bit extra for any lasthiting of buildings and raxes, but I don't know how much team bounty T3 and T4 towers give, etc. Basically, If 2 teams were even, then a teamwipe + complete razing of base, what would the gold difference be (approx is fine)? | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XDtSS.png) 74485272 | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1aZuY.jpg) Seems blocked by the creeps | ||
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