• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:01
CET 18:01
KST 02:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down15ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League77Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid?
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Hands of Pluto Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! Bot on ladder
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group C
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10984 users

Simple Questions, Simple Answers - Page 246

Forum Index > Dota 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 244 245 246 247 248 1254 Next
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 07:59:23
November 24 2012 07:59 GMT
#4901
On November 24 2012 16:38 BigBeezy wrote:
Thanks! :D. When is a bottle viable? I frequently buy it and find it very useful but my friend says that it strictly for mid. I go random and side lane most of the time.

Bottle is your go to option for pretty much any mid hero that needs mana and health. Notable exceptions are Invoker (health regen from Q), Batrider (up to personal preference, he doesn't really need the additonal manaregen tho), Necrolyte, OD and probably one or two others I can't think of right now.

Sidelane bottle is solid, but only if your team is clever enough about the courier usage that you can bottle crow effectively or if you buy a 2nd courier specifically for that purpose.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
November 24 2012 08:37 GMT
#4902
Do anyone know VODS which showcases good gameplay of bounty hunter, batrider lonedruid and rk? I have been missing out on shit load of tournaments thanks to various commitments such as NS and i have absolutely no idea where to search from. If you guys know anything i hope you all can tell me! thanks!
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 12:33:45
November 24 2012 12:31 GMT
#4903
having trouble figuring out what rk is...
i cant link any vods because im on my phone but lgd vs dk and notidehunter vs navi are some vods that come to mind for lone druid
hes played so much it honestly isnt very hard finding games of him but the ones i specify show a 12 item lone druid and a 17?min radiance
as for bh i think if you look at a lot of ig's games from last year yyf played a lot of bh with high success
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
November 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#4904
On November 24 2012 15:28 UniversalSnip wrote:
when should I skip magic stick/wand?

Sometimes it is not worth upgrading your stick to a full wand, particularly if you don't already have iron branches from the beginning of the game or if you're farming fast enough to get bigger items anyway.
Moderator
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 12:37:14
November 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#4905
rk is rogue knight.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
November 24 2012 13:53 GMT
#4906
On November 24 2012 21:36 Unleashing wrote:
rk is rogue knight.

Aka sven.
Moderator
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
November 24 2012 19:14 GMT
#4907
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 19:17:39
November 24 2012 19:16 GMT
#4908
On November 25 2012 04:14 Irratonalys wrote:
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?

No. Only one crit can ever proc at a time--if two crits proc at the same time, the lower damage crit is ignored.

Basically don't ever bother with buying crit on heroes that already have crit--it's not cost-efficient.
Moderator
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 24 2012 19:38 GMT
#4909
On November 25 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 04:14 Irratonalys wrote:
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?

No. Only one crit can ever proc at a time--if two crits proc at the same time, the lower damage crit is ignored.

Basically don't ever bother with buying crit on heroes that already have crit--it's not cost-efficient.

except kunkka where all you want is lothars and 5 crits
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
November 24 2012 19:44 GMT
#4910
On November 24 2012 17:37 Invictus wrote:
Do anyone know VODS which showcases good gameplay of bounty hunter, batrider lonedruid and rk? I have been missing out on shit load of tournaments thanks to various commitments such as NS and i have absolutely no idea where to search from. If you guys know anything i hope you all can tell me! thanks!


It takes longer to say RK than Sven. And Sven makes you think of a Nordic supermanly badass.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
November 24 2012 20:08 GMT
#4911
On November 25 2012 04:44 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 17:37 Invictus wrote:
Do anyone know VODS which showcases good gameplay of bounty hunter, batrider lonedruid and rk? I have been missing out on shit load of tournaments thanks to various commitments such as NS and i have absolutely no idea where to search from. If you guys know anything i hope you all can tell me! thanks!


It takes longer to say RK than Sven. And Sven makes you think of a Nordic supermanly badass.


haha sorry its cause im still used to my dota 1 style of calling, so sometimes i just type it out without noticing
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
November 24 2012 23:09 GMT
#4912
On November 25 2012 04:38 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
On November 25 2012 04:14 Irratonalys wrote:
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?

No. Only one crit can ever proc at a time--if two crits proc at the same time, the lower damage crit is ignored.

Basically don't ever bother with buying crit on heroes that already have crit--it's not cost-efficient.

except kunkka where all you want is lothars and 5 crits


That's a little different tho because the different on-hit procs (tidebringer, lothars, crit) actually stack. The extra daedali (daedaluses?) are just to get your proc rate up for that GG one hit ultra-kill.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 23:14:57
November 24 2012 23:14 GMT
#4913
On November 25 2012 04:38 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
On November 25 2012 04:14 Irratonalys wrote:
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?

No. Only one crit can ever proc at a time--if two crits proc at the same time, the lower damage crit is ignored.

Basically don't ever bother with buying crit on heroes that already have crit--it's not cost-efficient.

except kunkka where all you want is lothars and 5 crits

That's just cuz you're not man enough to get rapiers.

Or Battle Furies.
Moderator
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 25 2012 01:41 GMT
#4914
i think i don't build enough rapiers
i love battle furies tho
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
November 25 2012 02:00 GMT
#4915
On November 24 2012 16:59 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 16:38 BigBeezy wrote:
Thanks! :D. When is a bottle viable? I frequently buy it and find it very useful but my friend says that it strictly for mid. I go random and side lane most of the time.

Bottle is your go to option for pretty much any mid hero that needs mana and health. Notable exceptions are Invoker (health regen from Q), Batrider (up to personal preference, he doesn't really need the additonal manaregen tho), Necrolyte, OD and probably one or two others I can't think of right now.

Sidelane bottle is solid, but only if your team is clever enough about the courier usage that you can bottle crow effectively or if you buy a 2nd courier specifically for that purpose.


I've seen tinkers pick up bottles when they're on side lane so its not strictly for mid its just a really popular and recommended thing to do when playing mid and alot less common for any other laners to really get a bottle.

So yeah this guy is right. Buying bottle when you don't really need it means you just invested in something thats really a waste when that 600 gold could have been used for early boots (like whats pretty standard now because of the price nerf) or some other item that you want rush if your a carry.
MeatlessTaco
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 03:18:08
November 25 2012 03:14 GMT
#4916
1. Is there hacking in MOBA games? Is it because DOTA2 isn't popular enough yet, or did they actually put fog-of-war information server-side only?

2. How much trolling can a person do before the reports have consequences? What consequences? I early-left a couple bot games and know that an early abandonment is a 24-hour low-priority queue penalty.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
November 25 2012 03:17 GMT
#4917
Map hacking is impossible in DotA2 simply due to the way valve designed it.
And DotA is plenty popular already.

And i don't know, not a lot, my friend trolling 2 games in a row and was sent to low priority from reports alone(According to him anyway).

And yes, leaving puts you in low priority, because it's bad mannered.
Low priority means slower Q'ing(Generally), no items, no BP and you're grouped with the kind of people who will rage-leave.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
MeatlessTaco
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 03:22:16
November 25 2012 03:19 GMT
#4918
On November 25 2012 12:17 Unleashing wrote:
Map hacking is impossible in DotA2 simply due to the way valve designed it.
And DotA is plenty popular already.


If that's true, fucking-A! Finally a company doesn't put information the character doesn't need client-side (*cough* blizzard).

On November 25 2012 12:17 Unleashing wrote:
And i don't know, not a lot, my friend trolling 2 games in a row and was sent to low priority from reports alone(According to him anyway).


That seems perfect. The first game could be a fluke ( I went 0-14 as Huskar once and everyone thought I was feeding, and I was trying my best). Two games with most reporting you should be an immediate ban.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 25 2012 04:15 GMT
#4919
On November 24 2012 21:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 15:28 UniversalSnip wrote:
when should I skip magic stick/wand?

Sometimes it is not worth upgrading your stick to a full wand, particularly if you don't already have iron branches from the beginning of the game or if you're farming fast enough to get bigger items anyway.

so basically, stick always, unless i'm some hardcore assassin or split pusher, and upgrade always if i bought it unless i'm really fed or i didn't start branches, although from what i can tell everyone starts branches
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
November 25 2012 09:34 GMT
#4920
On November 25 2012 12:14 MeatlessTaco wrote:
1. Is there hacking in MOBA games? Is it because DOTA2 isn't popular enough yet, or did they actually put fog-of-war information server-side only?

2. How much trolling can a person do before the reports have consequences? What consequences? I early-left a couple bot games and know that an early abandonment is a 24-hour low-priority queue penalty.


If you're playing a bot game with only yourself vs. bots there isn't a penalty for leaving early, considering it's just you.
Prev 1 244 245 246 247 248 1254 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 38
Codebar 28
MindelVK 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 23538
Calm 4505
Horang2 775
Jaedong 510
EffOrt 275
firebathero 160
Dewaltoss 108
Barracks 105
Mind 80
Zeus 58
[ Show more ]
Snow 45
ggaemo 41
Killer 37
Sharp 34
910 25
Rock 22
Trap 22
Bishop 19
HiyA 14
scan(afreeca) 13
yabsab 11
Shine 10
Sacsri 6
Dota 2
Gorgc14139
Cr1tdota1695
qojqva1140
syndereN408
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps485
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor174
Trikslyr90
Other Games
B2W.Neo1477
FrodaN680
Beastyqt613
hiko475
DeMusliM220
Hui .169
Liquid`VortiX152
QueenE56
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL53188
StarCraft 2
WardiTV85
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 36
• FirePhoenix12
• Pr0nogo 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis1376
Other Games
• Shiphtur722
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
7h 29m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
8h 59m
TaKeTV 52
The PondCast
16h 59m
Kung Fu Cup
17h 59m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 17h
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
GSL
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Yamato Cup
4 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.