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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 07:59:23
November 24 2012 07:59 GMT
#4901
On November 24 2012 16:38 BigBeezy wrote:
Thanks! :D. When is a bottle viable? I frequently buy it and find it very useful but my friend says that it strictly for mid. I go random and side lane most of the time.

Bottle is your go to option for pretty much any mid hero that needs mana and health. Notable exceptions are Invoker (health regen from Q), Batrider (up to personal preference, he doesn't really need the additonal manaregen tho), Necrolyte, OD and probably one or two others I can't think of right now.

Sidelane bottle is solid, but only if your team is clever enough about the courier usage that you can bottle crow effectively or if you buy a 2nd courier specifically for that purpose.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
November 24 2012 08:37 GMT
#4902
Do anyone know VODS which showcases good gameplay of bounty hunter, batrider lonedruid and rk? I have been missing out on shit load of tournaments thanks to various commitments such as NS and i have absolutely no idea where to search from. If you guys know anything i hope you all can tell me! thanks!
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 12:33:45
November 24 2012 12:31 GMT
#4903
having trouble figuring out what rk is...
i cant link any vods because im on my phone but lgd vs dk and notidehunter vs navi are some vods that come to mind for lone druid
hes played so much it honestly isnt very hard finding games of him but the ones i specify show a 12 item lone druid and a 17?min radiance
as for bh i think if you look at a lot of ig's games from last year yyf played a lot of bh with high success
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
November 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#4904
On November 24 2012 15:28 UniversalSnip wrote:
when should I skip magic stick/wand?

Sometimes it is not worth upgrading your stick to a full wand, particularly if you don't already have iron branches from the beginning of the game or if you're farming fast enough to get bigger items anyway.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 12:37:14
November 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#4905
rk is rogue knight.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
November 24 2012 13:53 GMT
#4906
On November 24 2012 21:36 Unleashing wrote:
rk is rogue knight.

Aka sven.
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Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
November 24 2012 19:14 GMT
#4907
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 19:17:39
November 24 2012 19:16 GMT
#4908
On November 25 2012 04:14 Irratonalys wrote:
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?

No. Only one crit can ever proc at a time--if two crits proc at the same time, the lower damage crit is ignored.

Basically don't ever bother with buying crit on heroes that already have crit--it's not cost-efficient.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 24 2012 19:38 GMT
#4909
On November 25 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 04:14 Irratonalys wrote:
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?

No. Only one crit can ever proc at a time--if two crits proc at the same time, the lower damage crit is ignored.

Basically don't ever bother with buying crit on heroes that already have crit--it's not cost-efficient.

except kunkka where all you want is lothars and 5 crits
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
November 24 2012 19:44 GMT
#4910
On November 24 2012 17:37 Invictus wrote:
Do anyone know VODS which showcases good gameplay of bounty hunter, batrider lonedruid and rk? I have been missing out on shit load of tournaments thanks to various commitments such as NS and i have absolutely no idea where to search from. If you guys know anything i hope you all can tell me! thanks!


It takes longer to say RK than Sven. And Sven makes you think of a Nordic supermanly badass.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
November 24 2012 20:08 GMT
#4911
On November 25 2012 04:44 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 17:37 Invictus wrote:
Do anyone know VODS which showcases good gameplay of bounty hunter, batrider lonedruid and rk? I have been missing out on shit load of tournaments thanks to various commitments such as NS and i have absolutely no idea where to search from. If you guys know anything i hope you all can tell me! thanks!


It takes longer to say RK than Sven. And Sven makes you think of a Nordic supermanly badass.


haha sorry its cause im still used to my dota 1 style of calling, so sometimes i just type it out without noticing
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
November 24 2012 23:09 GMT
#4912
On November 25 2012 04:38 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
On November 25 2012 04:14 Irratonalys wrote:
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?

No. Only one crit can ever proc at a time--if two crits proc at the same time, the lower damage crit is ignored.

Basically don't ever bother with buying crit on heroes that already have crit--it's not cost-efficient.

except kunkka where all you want is lothars and 5 crits


That's a little different tho because the different on-hit procs (tidebringer, lothars, crit) actually stack. The extra daedali (daedaluses?) are just to get your proc rate up for that GG one hit ultra-kill.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 23:14:57
November 24 2012 23:14 GMT
#4913
On November 25 2012 04:38 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 04:16 TheYango wrote:
On November 25 2012 04:14 Irratonalys wrote:
if you have a guaranteed crit from a jinada , can a secondary crit from a daedalus also prock? and does it stack?

No. Only one crit can ever proc at a time--if two crits proc at the same time, the lower damage crit is ignored.

Basically don't ever bother with buying crit on heroes that already have crit--it's not cost-efficient.

except kunkka where all you want is lothars and 5 crits

That's just cuz you're not man enough to get rapiers.

Or Battle Furies.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 25 2012 01:41 GMT
#4914
i think i don't build enough rapiers
i love battle furies tho
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
November 25 2012 02:00 GMT
#4915
On November 24 2012 16:59 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 16:38 BigBeezy wrote:
Thanks! :D. When is a bottle viable? I frequently buy it and find it very useful but my friend says that it strictly for mid. I go random and side lane most of the time.

Bottle is your go to option for pretty much any mid hero that needs mana and health. Notable exceptions are Invoker (health regen from Q), Batrider (up to personal preference, he doesn't really need the additonal manaregen tho), Necrolyte, OD and probably one or two others I can't think of right now.

Sidelane bottle is solid, but only if your team is clever enough about the courier usage that you can bottle crow effectively or if you buy a 2nd courier specifically for that purpose.


I've seen tinkers pick up bottles when they're on side lane so its not strictly for mid its just a really popular and recommended thing to do when playing mid and alot less common for any other laners to really get a bottle.

So yeah this guy is right. Buying bottle when you don't really need it means you just invested in something thats really a waste when that 600 gold could have been used for early boots (like whats pretty standard now because of the price nerf) or some other item that you want rush if your a carry.
MeatlessTaco
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 03:18:08
November 25 2012 03:14 GMT
#4916
1. Is there hacking in MOBA games? Is it because DOTA2 isn't popular enough yet, or did they actually put fog-of-war information server-side only?

2. How much trolling can a person do before the reports have consequences? What consequences? I early-left a couple bot games and know that an early abandonment is a 24-hour low-priority queue penalty.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
November 25 2012 03:17 GMT
#4917
Map hacking is impossible in DotA2 simply due to the way valve designed it.
And DotA is plenty popular already.

And i don't know, not a lot, my friend trolling 2 games in a row and was sent to low priority from reports alone(According to him anyway).

And yes, leaving puts you in low priority, because it's bad mannered.
Low priority means slower Q'ing(Generally), no items, no BP and you're grouped with the kind of people who will rage-leave.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
MeatlessTaco
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 03:22:16
November 25 2012 03:19 GMT
#4918
On November 25 2012 12:17 Unleashing wrote:
Map hacking is impossible in DotA2 simply due to the way valve designed it.
And DotA is plenty popular already.


If that's true, fucking-A! Finally a company doesn't put information the character doesn't need client-side (*cough* blizzard).

On November 25 2012 12:17 Unleashing wrote:
And i don't know, not a lot, my friend trolling 2 games in a row and was sent to low priority from reports alone(According to him anyway).


That seems perfect. The first game could be a fluke ( I went 0-14 as Huskar once and everyone thought I was feeding, and I was trying my best). Two games with most reporting you should be an immediate ban.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 25 2012 04:15 GMT
#4919
On November 24 2012 21:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 15:28 UniversalSnip wrote:
when should I skip magic stick/wand?

Sometimes it is not worth upgrading your stick to a full wand, particularly if you don't already have iron branches from the beginning of the game or if you're farming fast enough to get bigger items anyway.

so basically, stick always, unless i'm some hardcore assassin or split pusher, and upgrade always if i bought it unless i'm really fed or i didn't start branches, although from what i can tell everyone starts branches
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
November 25 2012 09:34 GMT
#4920
On November 25 2012 12:14 MeatlessTaco wrote:
1. Is there hacking in MOBA games? Is it because DOTA2 isn't popular enough yet, or did they actually put fog-of-war information server-side only?

2. How much trolling can a person do before the reports have consequences? What consequences? I early-left a couple bot games and know that an early abandonment is a 24-hour low-priority queue penalty.


If you're playing a bot game with only yourself vs. bots there isn't a penalty for leaving early, considering it's just you.
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