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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 03 2015 01:48 GMT
#22621
On August 03 2015 05:41 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 00:04 rebdomine wrote:
On August 02 2015 23:40 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On August 02 2015 18:45 Surprise.820 wrote:
Depends, if you're in the jungle as main Naga your illusions can be microed instead because you aren't doing much. Early on I imagine people focus on the last hitting (i.e. Dire Naga mid) but when they've got Radiance they just push all lanes out to drown farm.

Look up a replay of RTZ for more details, should be some around in one of the free2download tournaments.


I think you can download a replay even if you don't have the ticket to the tourney. Just go to dotabuff and look up the match ID, search that Match ID in Dota and you'd be able to get the replay. That's how I got IceIceIce's record breaking tidehunter game.


Fuck and I often buy tickets just to get replays.

It doesn't work anymore, they fixed it almost a year ago. You were able to download and view replays via Match IDs, but at some point it was mentioned in some random comment on Reddit and fixed two days later. I tried reversing the mechanism the client uses to distinguish tournament replays from regular ones, but to no avail.


For real? IceIceIce's record breaking tidehunter game (highest networth in <30 minutes) happened within the year only and I was able to get the replays even if I didn't get the ticket....:/

Maybe it works for some tournaments and for some, it does not?
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 03 2015 02:02 GMT
#22622
On August 03 2015 10:48 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 05:41 makmeatt wrote:
On August 03 2015 00:04 rebdomine wrote:
On August 02 2015 23:40 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On August 02 2015 18:45 Surprise.820 wrote:
Depends, if you're in the jungle as main Naga your illusions can be microed instead because you aren't doing much. Early on I imagine people focus on the last hitting (i.e. Dire Naga mid) but when they've got Radiance they just push all lanes out to drown farm.

Look up a replay of RTZ for more details, should be some around in one of the free2download tournaments.


I think you can download a replay even if you don't have the ticket to the tourney. Just go to dotabuff and look up the match ID, search that Match ID in Dota and you'd be able to get the replay. That's how I got IceIceIce's record breaking tidehunter game.


Fuck and I often buy tickets just to get replays.

It doesn't work anymore, they fixed it almost a year ago. You were able to download and view replays via Match IDs, but at some point it was mentioned in some random comment on Reddit and fixed two days later. I tried reversing the mechanism the client uses to distinguish tournament replays from regular ones, but to no avail.


For real? IceIceIce's record breaking tidehunter game (highest networth in <30 minutes) happened within the year only and I was able to get the replays even if I didn't get the ticket....:/

Maybe it works for some tournaments and for some, it does not?


maybe that was a free ticket tournament
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
August 03 2015 02:34 GMT
#22623
if oracle is chanelling fortunes end and goes invisible, is it disjointed?
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
August 03 2015 03:01 GMT
#22624
On August 03 2015 11:34 BluemoonSC wrote:
if oracle is chanelling fortunes end and goes invisible, is it disjointed?

Please. Nobody plays Oracle and thus this is impossible to answer.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-03 05:00:16
August 03 2015 04:58 GMT
#22625
On August 03 2015 11:34 BluemoonSC wrote:
if oracle is chanelling fortunes end and goes invisible, is it disjointed?

Fortune's End can be disjointed by turning invisible. When disjointed, Fortune's End will hit the target's last known position, so in order to fully dodge Fortune's End with invisiblity you need to move 215 units (the spells AoE) away from your original position after becoming invisible.
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
August 03 2015 05:10 GMT
#22626
Is there a reason teams never siege the T4 towers, even when it's a 5v3 and they are super far ahead? It doesn't make sense to me, you should be easily able to win if they try to fight you, or at least force their buybacks right?
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-03 05:55:15
August 03 2015 05:37 GMT
#22627
To clarify: Oracle can continue channeling if Oracle becomes invisible. The projectile part of the move will only be disjointed if the target becomes invisible.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-03 05:59:51
August 03 2015 05:58 GMT
#22628
On August 03 2015 14:10 miicah wrote:
Is there a reason teams never siege the T4 towers, even when it's a 5v3 and they are super far ahead? It doesn't make sense to me, you should be easily able to win if they try to fight you, or at least force their buybacks right?

You can't really force buybacks and leave when you're hitting T4 towers the way you can when you're sieging T3s. When you're at T3s, the distance/time required for those buying back to get to you usually means you can just turn around and leave when the buybacks are popped (and even that's questionable depending on the heroes--there are heroes like Batrider that make even trying to force buybacks off a T3 siege questionable). You can't do that with T4s. The T4s are sufficiently close to the fountain that you really don't have time to escape on reaction if the enemy team double buybacks and fights you. You're going to be forced to fight, and probably be in a situation where your team is all at half health/mana while the enemy team is all fresh because they're coming from the fountain. If you get wiped in that situation, the enemy team well more than makes back the cost of 2 buybacks.
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
August 03 2015 06:17 GMT
#22629
Hmm... It seems to me like the main reason I don't see teams siege the T4 towers is that if it's obviously safe to do so, the other team has already gg'd.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 03 2015 06:26 GMT
#22630
I mean unless you're sure you can end the game right there, getting another lane of supers is usually worth more than breaking T4s. And if you think they have buybacks, its safer to break T3s for the reasons i stated before.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 03 2015 08:10 GMT
#22631
i think the only reason you would go for chip dmg on t4s instead of another lane is the t2s are still up on the other lanes
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 04 2015 00:26 GMT
#22632
how do you edit the recommended in game items for each hero?
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
August 04 2015 00:37 GMT
#22633
On August 04 2015 09:26 zev318 wrote:
how do you edit the recommended in game items for each hero?

Under the Library section there's a Build tab where you can make your own builds. It's only in Source 1 though.
Otherwise you can use other peoples' builds by clicking the book icon in the top left and selecting the build you want.
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8865 Posts
August 04 2015 00:55 GMT
#22634
buybacks arent even the biggest problem when sieging t4
if youre at their t4 and they are only buying back now, then theyre stupid (unless its a rare case of them needing 10 gold and they had to wait it out)
even if you could safely get 1 or 2 t4 without the threat of buy back, its usually better strategically to go for another lane of rax because of the map control you get from it.
taking the t4s gives you 1 lane of rax + 2 tower gold. in a fairly even game this isn't a big enough advantage for you to force fights whenever you want, because 1 bad fight could still leave you with 2 lanes of rax down.
taking a 2nd lane of rax rather than going for the t4 gives you map control to further starve your opponent, and in the worst cast scenario where you get teamwiped somehow, even if the opponents get 2 lanes of rax of their own the map is evened out.
so basically:
going for t4 gives you instant gold advantage and 1 lane of rax with a possibility for you to lose a fight and go 2 rax down and lose map control
vs
going for 2nd lane of rax which gives you gradual gold advantage, better map control and in the case you lose a fight, the map will even out
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 04 2015 08:48 GMT
#22635
On August 04 2015 09:26 zev318 wrote:
how do you edit the recommended in game items for each hero?

or when ur ingame u can bring up the shop menu, click on the little pencil icon at the top of the recommended items list, and that will let u edit it. just drag items in or out, then press the green tick when ur done.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
August 06 2015 16:52 GMT
#22636
Currently what are the #1 offlaners? Im going to go play some dota which its been a year since I have played. Alot has changed can someone fill me in?
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 17:02:02
August 06 2015 17:01 GMT
#22637
On August 07 2015 01:52 Adrian_mx wrote:
Currently what are the #1 offlaners? Im going to go play some dota which its been a year since I have played. Alot has changed can someone fill me in?

Imho lining setups have become more flexible over the last year (or more precisely, over the last patches). 2-1-2 without a "classic" offlane happens a lot.

Regarding solo offlaners, at TI5 we often saw ds, undying, tusk.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
August 06 2015 23:27 GMT
#22638
Why isn't Puck being picked in TI 2015?
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 07 2015 03:52 GMT
#22639
On August 07 2015 08:27 Bleak wrote:
Why isn't Puck being picked in TI 2015?

Puck was basically the last of the utility mids to stay relevant and in this meta he just doesn't do enough damage, basically.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 07 2015 04:01 GMT
#22640
He's also not super amazing as a "utility" mid either, seeing as he has no reliable stun and a silence.

He's good when paired with specific heroes or against certain heroes, but none of the heroes he goes really well with (e.g. Lycan) are popular heroes right now, and he's not really a hero that's purely useful based on his own strength.
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