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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
July 08 2015 02:15 GMT
#22421
I mean vlads gives you everything you need to boost your farm speed for 2.3k gold and it opens up solo roshan. I don't see too many downsides unless youre going for a quicker manta to deal with a silence.
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Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
July 08 2015 02:41 GMT
#22422
To dish out additional attack during omnislash, do I have to a-click on the target or Jugg will automatically do it?
Best or nothing.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 08 2015 02:51 GMT
#22423
On July 08 2015 11:41 Quochobao wrote:
To dish out additional attack during omnislash, do I have to a-click on the target or Jugg will automatically do it?

jugg automatically does it im pretty sure

i always ult mom and put my hands in da air and the extra slashes almost definitely come out
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Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
July 08 2015 02:54 GMT
#22424
On July 08 2015 11:51 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 11:41 Quochobao wrote:
To dish out additional attack during omnislash, do I have to a-click on the target or Jugg will automatically do it?

jugg automatically does it im pretty sure

i always ult mom and put my hands in da air and the extra slashes almost definitely come out


If someone ghost scepter / eul themselves during omnislash, could I purge them while slashing? Or will I stop slashing?
Best or nothing.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 02:55:46
July 08 2015 02:55 GMT
#22425
On July 08 2015 11:54 Quochobao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 11:51 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 08 2015 11:41 Quochobao wrote:
To dish out additional attack during omnislash, do I have to a-click on the target or Jugg will automatically do it?

jugg automatically does it im pretty sure

i always ult mom and put my hands in da air and the extra slashes almost definitely come out


If someone ghost scepter / eul themselves during omnislash, could I purge them while slashing? Or will I stop slashing?

You can't interrupt omnislash by using items.

I don't think you can purge someone who's using euls though, can you?
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 08 2015 02:56 GMT
#22426
yea you can use any items while omnislashing including blink to switch targets

you can purge ghost... is it possible to purge cyclone using diffusal?
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Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
July 08 2015 03:05 GMT
#22427
Thanks all with helping with jugg so far!

Another issue I have is after I ulti, jugg is quite squishy and can be focused down easily if their team is not already dead. Thus my jugg fights tend to go to extremes: either I'm strong enough to kill them all during ulti, or I die quickly after ulti.

This problem is especially severe during early games, when the standard build seems to be aquila phase mom yasha / maelstorm, i.e. no hp at all.

So am I supposed to just contribute the ulti and that's it? At level 1, it's just 3 hits.
Best or nothing.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 03:15:21
July 08 2015 03:13 GMT
#22428
yeah between levels 6-11 you should only be looking for guaranteed solo picks with your ulti, it's not a big deal if you can't find any and it's off cd as long as you're farming efficiently. you should never be ulting into multiple heroes at this point unless it's like to clean up low hp stragglers

if your team is flaming you for not joining a big fight before level 11 they're probably just wrong

after 11 finding solo picks or small skirmishes should be a little higher on your priority list but if you're playing jugg as the hard carry, minimizing deaths is still paramount so that when the big lategame fights break out you'll actually win them with enough farm (if you're going to get outscaled regardless then maybe start begging your team for 5man smoke into objectives though)
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fourthirds
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada132 Posts
July 09 2015 01:20 GMT
#22429
How does bloodrage on BS work with damage block? Let's say blood raged BS with a pms is attacked for a base 60 damage. Does the 25% damage buff apply first, so 75 damage then minus 20 for PMS for 55 damage, or does it apply after pms, ex 60 base minus 20 for 40, plus 25% for 50 total? I'm curious if bloodrage makes damage block more or less valuable.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
July 09 2015 02:52 GMT
#22430
IIRC damage block is applied before any damage reductions or amplifications
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 09 2015 03:12 GMT
#22431
On July 09 2015 11:52 BluemoonSC wrote:
IIRC damage block is applied before any damage reductions or amplifications

Correct.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2807 Posts
July 09 2015 05:03 GMT
#22432
On July 08 2015 11:56 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
yea you can use any items while omnislashing including blink to switch targets

you can purge ghost... is it possible to purge cyclone using diffusal?


Can't target cycloned units, so nop.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-09 07:23:18
July 09 2015 07:16 GMT
#22433
On July 09 2015 14:03 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 11:56 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
yea you can use any items while omnislashing including blink to switch targets

you can purge ghost... is it possible to purge cyclone using diffusal?


Can't target cycloned units, so nop.

huh yes u can purge cyclone (only with diffusal tho)
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 09 2015 08:23 GMT
#22434
i knew you could purge cyclone with storm panda dispel but i didnt know about diffusal... do you have to click the hero on top of the cyclone?
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
July 09 2015 08:38 GMT
#22435
On July 09 2015 17:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i knew you could purge cyclone with storm panda dispel but i didnt know about diffusal... do you have to click the hero on top of the cyclone?

yeah you have to click on the hero model itself and not the base of the cyclone. whereas with storm panda dispel, you click on the base (although thats cuz dispel is aoe ground targeted?)

there are some weird interactions with cyclone. demonic purge wont target it, but oracle purge can target a cycloned unit, but wont do anything
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
July 09 2015 09:14 GMT
#22436
On July 09 2015 17:38 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 17:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i knew you could purge cyclone with storm panda dispel but i didnt know about diffusal... do you have to click the hero on top of the cyclone?

yeah you have to click on the hero model itself and not the base of the cyclone. whereas with storm panda dispel, you click on the base (although thats cuz dispel is aoe ground targeted?)

there are some weird interactions with cyclone. demonic purge wont target it, but oracle purge can target a cycloned unit, but wont do anything

yup, cyclone is really strange. i wonder how he really works. For example you can hook someone who's cyclone and it cancels it, but this will not work with clock ult & shit
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
July 09 2015 10:48 GMT
#22437
On July 09 2015 18:14 VelJa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 17:38 ahswtini wrote:
On July 09 2015 17:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i knew you could purge cyclone with storm panda dispel but i didnt know about diffusal... do you have to click the hero on top of the cyclone?

yeah you have to click on the hero model itself and not the base of the cyclone. whereas with storm panda dispel, you click on the base (although thats cuz dispel is aoe ground targeted?)

there are some weird interactions with cyclone. demonic purge wont target it, but oracle purge can target a cycloned unit, but wont do anything

yup, cyclone is really strange. i wonder how he really works. For example you can hook someone who's cyclone and it cancels it, but this will not work with clock ult & shit

Any AoE purge removes it (Brew, Nerif) - I've never seen anyone being able to purge it with Diff.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
July 09 2015 12:01 GMT
#22438
On July 09 2015 19:48 Jisira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 18:14 VelJa wrote:
On July 09 2015 17:38 ahswtini wrote:
On July 09 2015 17:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i knew you could purge cyclone with storm panda dispel but i didnt know about diffusal... do you have to click the hero on top of the cyclone?

yeah you have to click on the hero model itself and not the base of the cyclone. whereas with storm panda dispel, you click on the base (although thats cuz dispel is aoe ground targeted?)

there are some weird interactions with cyclone. demonic purge wont target it, but oracle purge can target a cycloned unit, but wont do anything

yup, cyclone is really strange. i wonder how he really works. For example you can hook someone who's cyclone and it cancels it, but this will not work with clock ult & shit

Any AoE purge removes it (Brew, Nerif) - I've never seen anyone being able to purge it with Diff.

this is nonsense, i tested it myself earlier and can do it again and record it later.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
July 09 2015 14:01 GMT
#22439
On July 09 2015 19:48 Jisira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 18:14 VelJa wrote:
On July 09 2015 17:38 ahswtini wrote:
On July 09 2015 17:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i knew you could purge cyclone with storm panda dispel but i didnt know about diffusal... do you have to click the hero on top of the cyclone?

yeah you have to click on the hero model itself and not the base of the cyclone. whereas with storm panda dispel, you click on the base (although thats cuz dispel is aoe ground targeted?)

there are some weird interactions with cyclone. demonic purge wont target it, but oracle purge can target a cycloned unit, but wont do anything

yup, cyclone is really strange. i wonder how he really works. For example you can hook someone who's cyclone and it cancels it, but this will not work with clock ult & shit

Any AoE purge removes it (Brew, Nerif) - I've never seen anyone being able to purge it with Diff.

Nerif ?
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
July 09 2015 14:26 GMT
#22440
= oracle's name
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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