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herZ
Bulgaria7 Posts
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
MK and Ember for Miracle? Weaver on Matumba? Visage on gh? Void on MC? I guess there were some signature picks in there, but overall it felt like something was missing. Learn from it - own LB - win TI. #Istillbelieve | ||
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kun3
101 Posts
Yesterday was a sad day for Kuro. For the couple months he has been on point with drafts. Mainstage pressure eats him alive? | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On August 08 2017 18:06 kun3 wrote: I still have faith for the team but it all depends on Kuro not getting blatantly outdrafted. Yesterday was a sad day for Kuro. For the couple months he has been on point with drafts. Mainstage pressure eats him alive? I can not imagine pressure gets to you while drafting. Kuro is to chill for that;) We know that kuro sometimes drafts weird shit, that is nothing new. I wish them good luck today, they still can do this. | ||
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herZ
Bulgaria7 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Possibly game 1 as well, I don't think they were as far behind early as Lumi insisted they were, but the decision to stick around and fight after popping aegis on Alch + getting unnecessarily caught one by one after a lost fight several times. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
And yeah they were thrown off-guard Went for 3 very much signature comfort picks 1 Cancer combo (weaver+visage) where weaver is great vs bat in lane But they got completely out - strategised: night stalker made tusk useless AA Alch stop push in it's track Bat+AA shat on Bristle all game long And it allfell apart That's why Kuro went to try different stuff That's why they tilted near the end - just didn't handle the pressure, got caught off guard by iG | ||
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crocshark
139 Posts
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kun3
101 Posts
On August 08 2017 23:07 crocshark wrote: Mind control play very poorly again especially on game 3 vs IG. Either that or Kuroky poorly drafted 3 melee damage dealer into chrono which is pretty questionable. It is awful draft when you don't have ranged heroes to dish out dmg to chrono BUT MC didn't get off even 1 good chrono during the game. He was also absymal in game 1. | ||
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herZ
Bulgaria7 Posts
Regarding game 1 however, i agree. He fed quite much on the bot lane in the first couple of minutes, which made a recovery later quite impossible (also no stacks at all). Overall, i think that gh, Kuro and MC had no synchron in the games and that is basically what lost them the games. (and of course a couple mistakes from Matu and Miracle, but probably from the tilt-factor) | ||
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crocshark
139 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On August 08 2017 23:25 crocshark wrote: I really hope mind control doesn't fuck this up in lower bracket. Out of thread's context, XSS was legit. His sand king and earthshaker were top notch. Wish mind control learn a thing or two from this guy. XSS got SK and Eartshaker versus melee cores and little to no lane pressure, MC would also go off in those lanes. Let's take a look what it takes for a chrono to be good that game: 1. MC needs to catch heroes on the edges of the chrono because they have no ranged damage. 2. He can't catch any of his own heroes in the chrono despite slardar, ember and lone druid generally being in the middle of the fray. 3. He somehow needs to catch a 600+ range Lina in his Chrono or else she will delete him. 4. Earth Spirit can boulder smash through the chrono to keep Void from dealing damage, Eartshaker can throw fissure in to control him, Disruptor can glimpse the Void back out of his chrono or ult on top, Sven can stun him from outside the chrono. In short all their heroes can interact from outside the chrono. 5. They need to deal damage to the targets caught on the edge of chrono with their melee heroes for ice blast to shatter them without grouping up to get hit by stormhammer, lsa, fissure, enchant totem, echo slam, boulder smash, geomagnetic grip, magnetize, kinetic field, static storm. Also lastpicking Ember Spirit into an Earthshaker lane and a lineup with 5 stuns glimpse static storm, geomagnetic grip, laguna blade and god strength. He couldn't pressure the earthshaker resulting in a 12 minute blink dagger that dunked on them all game and he had to build all defensive items to do little damage and still be an easy pickoff. | ||
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derElbe
Germany571 Posts
 Lets hype GO GH , GO KURO, GO MC, GO MIRACLE and GO MATUMBA you can do it!! | ||
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f0xteam
79 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
 First game was maybe an outdraft... there was nothing too special about it. The Second map ... man, that was art! Tell me: How many team are going highground during that phase of the game with basically TI on the line? They knew exactly what they can do! These decisions will be important later on! The third game was Lina ... not the hero in itself, but I clearly remember three of the first chronos: first big team fight, MC catches two but Lina is just outside and rains hell on void and the rest. Then on top lane; yeah, Void catched GH in the chrono, but more important: Lina, AGAIN just outside the chrono and just kills everything! And Third in the middle, where Lina had clairvoyance or something and stunned the "trees" with void in them; so I lied, because there was actually no third chrono at that point. So with a little bit more "luck" or positioning of chronos this would have been a very different game! Secret has a mountain to climb! | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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bLzPostman
New Zealand82 Posts
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lxginverse
Monaco1506 Posts
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Nikto
Slovakia410 Posts
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
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