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drumandbass
Profile Joined June 2014
Hungary63 Posts
August 07 2017 20:39 GMT
#4441
I mean they also had 4 not especially tanky meelee heroes and a bear to 'synergize' with the chrono... That was kind of embarassing
"... you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; you put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; you put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
August 07 2017 20:39 GMT
#4442
On August 08 2017 05:37 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2017 05:34 Nikto wrote:
On August 08 2017 05:32 LemOn wrote:
On August 08 2017 05:31 Nikto wrote:
what a train wreck, they never got anything going, even game 2 was only a lucky break, they are crumbling on the main stage again, like last year... kuro defaulting to bad drafting again...

What's wrong with draft?

The execution is just . . .choke


you tell me what's right with it... oh please, you of all people calling it a choke

it's heavy execution based
Ifyou jump em right you blow upkey heroes andwin bear+armor+void kill anyone

you don't ... well you saw

Like the blink crush on sven that missed

They then go to him, hesitate back and forth before committing after IG got to their backlines and the whole team scrambled all over the place



I am sorry I do not agree with your reasoning, bear and void have 0 synergy, none at all, ember is useless vs what iG had etc etc
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
August 07 2017 20:39 GMT
#4443
Their drafts have just lacked cohesion and trust in their own playstyle. Invoker with no stun setup,a random GH Visage, a random miracle safelane Monkey King, random second pick AA, Void with 4 melee heroes. Picking up Lone Druid when you can pick the Miracle Invoker with your Void.

After the dominating group stage it's just disappointing how quickly the wheels come off the wagon when they go all-in on countering GH in the first phase.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Aurrius
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany120 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-07 20:40:41
August 07 2017 20:40 GMT
#4444
I dont understand why Kuroky does these Drafts... Void didnt fit to this meele focused lineup at all. If Liquid drops out to Team Secret/Execration then they need at last a change for the Captains Spot.

Really this Liquid plays now again so horrible like they did in the Groupstage for Epicenter.
f0xteam
Profile Joined December 2015
79 Posts
August 07 2017 20:41 GMT
#4445
miracle is lost + ig played so so well.
kek
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
August 07 2017 20:43 GMT
#4446
The worst start possible to my TI main stage experience. Not even good games, even the one they won was so sloppy. I still believe in them but now they have no more second chances.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
August 07 2017 20:45 GMT
#4447
Guys calm down. They didnt have a day today. Especially MC. If we can say tha tthe static strom in the begining was a big play from IG, the random stun mid was just bad luck. Then the next gank - sven got out of ancient area in half a second before GH stunned there...
Small things like that multiply. Also i think the 4th pick for liquid should've been invoker. From there just chrono 1 core ---> easy kill go from there. Why would you pick Lone druid 4th when you know the invoker was going to get banned.
Instead you get ember for a bad match mid against lina, and then bad matchup bot against shaker. That shaker won the game + the misfortunes. If you had something like Invoker mid - a bid unfavoured against lina but still fine GH rotation makes up for an easy kill. And then some carry for good matchup against shaker and the game would've been easy.

Too cocky drafting, into bad luck and you will lose if you do that.
As simple as that.
On the upper side we get to see more games from Liquid if they make it all the way.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-07 20:47:24
August 07 2017 20:46 GMT
#4448
And now the lower bracket slaughter begins again, they are really making it hard for themselves...
Gotta watch some anime to cheer me up, fuck TI for today
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
August 07 2017 20:46 GMT
#4449
especially MC, where did I see this, remind me again, ah yes TI6
Nakama
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany584 Posts
August 07 2017 20:49 GMT
#4450
Sad to read all the comments in here ... and u call yourself Fans ? Wtf... IG picked such a stupidly easy lineup to execute all three games, while liquid tried their usual style of drafting. If u then have that much of bad luck like in game 3 u lose.. that´s it, no need to question their skill.
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
August 07 2017 20:50 GMT
#4451
On August 08 2017 05:49 Nakama wrote:
Sad to read all the comments in here ... and u call yourself Fans ? Wtf... IG picked such a stupidly easy lineup to execute all three games, while liquid tried their usual style of drafting. If u then have that much of bad luck like in game 3 u lose.. that´s it, no need to question their skill.


and what's wrong with that, maybe Liquid should do the same for a change to win an important game as game 3, right ?
chabode
Profile Joined March 2017
330 Posts
August 07 2017 20:54 GMT
#4452
fuck my bracket and my LD contest

but if they can redeem themself by winning this TI, i'm fine with it
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-07 20:57:08
August 07 2017 20:54 GMT
#4453
I have never seen a team play so bad mechanically since I started watching Dota, if this was an online match I would be sure they're playing at ~200 ms latency or something. Reactions were slow, targeting was off, pulls were missed, even when they had good calls they just couldn't press the buttons. Gh was inside a chrono for half the game.

Pretty weird experience.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-07 20:57:09
August 07 2017 20:55 GMT
#4454
On August 08 2017 05:49 Nakama wrote:
Sad to read all the comments in here ... and u call yourself Fans ? Wtf... IG picked such a stupidly easy lineup to execute all three games, while liquid tried their usual style of drafting. If u then have that much of bad luck like in game 3 u lose.. that´s it, no need to question their skill.

So being fan does mean i cant be angry or sad? I will cheer for them with all my heart in the lower bracket, but its still frustrating you know?
AuthenticFan
Profile Joined July 2017
16 Posts
August 07 2017 20:55 GMT
#4455
man im so disappointed..
AuthenticFan
Profile Joined July 2017
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-07 21:00:48
August 07 2017 20:56 GMT
#4456
man that was so disappointing watching liquid get dumsptered after the strong Groupstages and actually we looked super strong this TI and could atleast get to GF.. then got fucked when IG FP earth shaker. and got nothing to show for.. man im just disappointed really
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
August 07 2017 21:00 GMT
#4457
On August 08 2017 05:49 Nakama wrote:
Sad to read all the comments in here ... and u call yourself Fans ? Wtf... IG picked such a stupidly easy lineup to execute all three games, while liquid tried their usual style of drafting. If u then have that much of bad luck like in game 3 u lose.. that´s it, no need to question their skill.


I do agree that comments are overboard.

It's a hard time to be a Liquid right now and I'd just like to at least be miserable without having to see so much flaming of the members. This is the only half decent place to talk Team Liquid or Dota in general and I can't even vent or hate my life without people making it harder on all of us.
Aurrius
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany120 Posts
August 07 2017 21:03 GMT
#4458
On August 08 2017 05:56 AuthenticFan wrote:
man that was so disappointing watching liquid get dumsptered after the strong Groupstages and actually we looked super strong this TI and could atleast get to GF.. then got fucked when IG FP earth shaker. and got nothing to show for.. man im just disappointed really

This feels like the reserve thing that happend at Epicenter. A very bad Groupstage and after it a good performance in the Knocking Out Stage and now its a very good Groupstage and a bad performance in the knocking out stage
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
August 07 2017 21:03 GMT
#4459
Man you guys get depressed really easily considering they still are in the tournament
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
August 07 2017 21:04 GMT
#4460
Like seriously, chill the fuck out ~
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