On October 23 2015 11:56 shouldbeworking wrote:
This team needs to go and bootcamp in China or something. Stomping these sea teams over and over isn't going to help get them next level enough to get a top finish.

well they're not the best team in SEA and probably haven't been for at least a month

CosmicSpiral

United States15275 Posts

November 16 2015 20:10 GMT

#242

I don't know.

The entire team feels like they're not coordinating. They've shown almost no draft flexibility. They can't play competently past the early game. Fnatic is a mess.

rabidch

United States20289 Posts

November 17 2015 01:30 GMT

#243

On November 17 2015 05:10 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I don't know.

The entire team feels like they're not coordinating. They've shown almost no draft flexibility. They can't play competently past the early game. Fnatic is a mess.

it has a lot to do with mushi. they have plenty of hero flexibility but mushi limits it, and the early shot calls are usually very poor. the lack of regional competition has something to do with it, but isn't any excuse for mushi to be leading this badly

shouldbeworking

946 Posts

November 17 2015 02:21 GMT

#244

Compared to how well coordinated the tier 1 teams are. I feel FNatic is going to disband. They definitely look lost after a certain point in the game and are not on the same page at all.

Mensol

14536 Posts

November 18 2015 21:01 GMT

#245

Ohaiyo says that team will stick together.

welp.

lphwo

Malaysia751 Posts

December 02 2015 10:53 GMT

#246

So from their latest game it seems like Mushi is playing carry, Black is mid, Ohaiyo is offlane and DJ is support?
I hoped that Mushi would just stay as support since he is the shotcaller.
Still I hope this works out.

MirageTaN

Singapore871 Posts

December 02 2015 15:46 GMT

#247

Mushi could just play EE-sama in C9 , If you follow his rule of "Most farmed calls shots" that is

lphwo

Malaysia751 Posts

December 06 2015 10:27 GMT

#248

On December 03 2015 00:46 MirageTaN wrote:
Mushi could just play EE-sama in C9 , If you follow his rule of "Most farmed calls shots" that is

If I'm not wrong it was PLD that was doing the early to mid game shot calling. EE only really took over during late game.

shad2810

Malaysia2682 Posts

March 05 2016 06:56 GMT

#249

Well, we had a good run in the shanghai major. I'm proud of the boys !

lphwo

Malaysia751 Posts

March 06 2016 07:52 GMT

#250

Yup it was a good run. With MVP being so strong I have hope for the SEA region.

DucK-

Singapore11449 Posts

March 06 2016 08:09 GMT

#251

Dj and midone are the top performers for fnatic. No surprises. Net though was a disappointment.

MetalMercury

United States1161 Posts

March 06 2016 23:11 GMT

#252

Really happy for this team! I hope they get a direct invite for the next major. They improved a ton and there's so many obvious ways they can improve even further (they throw so many games from ahead) that I think if they stay the course and don't get rattled they could be a top 4 team by the time TI comes around.

lphwo

Malaysia751 Posts

March 07 2016 09:26 GMT

#253

On March 06 2016 17:09 DucK- wrote:
Dj and midone are the top performers for fnatic. No surprises. Net though was a disappointment.

To be fair to net he constantly got things like Disruptor and had to play the hard 5 while DJ got to play Enigma/Chen.

goody153

44313 Posts

March 07 2016 10:03 GMT

#254

On March 06 2016 17:09 DucK- wrote:
Dj and midone are the top performers for fnatic. No surprises. Net though was a disappointment.

I wanted DJ to play mid but he's done well as a support it's a waste if a good support like goes to plays a core role when there's somebody else who can do it. And Midone is suprisingly reliable (although there are some weird situations where he jumped at 5 heroes but that's ok, he's new and it happens to anybody)

I think Ohayou did well too. Mushi did what a 1 should do but i'm still not too satisfied with him though this team would probably fall apart without him.

Kamisamanachi

4665 Posts

March 07 2016 10:51 GMT

#255

Aren't boys getting direct invite to manila for getting top 5 at this major? i read somewhere that top 6 gets invited directly..

and yea, Everyone on this team surpasses even tier 1 players on most teams in terms of raw skills.They just need the direction they were getting at this event from analyst and coach.they will do just fine and has the potential to reach even top 3 if they managed to bring stability to their performance and it is achievable with a highly positive leader like mushi. he found such 2 gems in the form of midone and DJ and the fact that DJ is getting along with a team with 4 malaysian players is pretty good thing to watch.

spudde123

4814 Posts

March 07 2016 10:57 GMT

#256

The top6 = direct invite is an assumption people make based on what has happened for Frankfurt and Shanghai. I don't think Valve has explicitly said so anywhere. In this case the question for me is just that if MVP and Fnatic both get invites, who are the teams that qualify from SEA and are they worthy of being at a major? I haven't watched that much SEA dota to have a proper opinion on the level of other teams. Of course as we've seen at Shanghai the assumptions people make about the level of certain teams may be pretty far off, I wouldn't really be against having more SEA teams at the major given that both of their teams got a good placing.

Moreover, the next major is in Manila so that might take some reservations away from Valve. The crowd will surely love having a few teams from nearby, and with the performances of MVP and Fnatic there is a legitimate case to do that.

lolnoty

United States7166 Posts

April 03 2016 06:35 GMT

#257

Fnatic is on a rampage at the moment. 24 series won in a row, only dropping 1 game to MVP.P (2-1) and beat MVP.P 3-0 after that series. I know Mushi is taking a break, but is he also their coach?

DucK-

Singapore11449 Posts

April 03 2016 06:39 GMT

#258

Can't wait for Mushi to return and screw this team up XD

OmniEulogy

Canada6600 Posts

April 03 2016 09:28 GMT

#259

as long as he doesn't lose all of his confidence again and start to give up kills every couple of minutes I think they'll be ok

goody153

44313 Posts

April 03 2016 09:32 GMT

#260

On April 03 2016 15:35 lolnoty wrote:
Fnatic is on a rampage at the moment. 24 series won in a row, only dropping 1 game to MVP.P (2-1) and beat MVP.P 3-0 after that series. I know Mushi is taking a break, but is he also their coach?

oh wow

also DJ-god