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Group Stage – October 8th - October 9th, 2022
Playoff Bracket – October 10th - October 12th, 2022
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7065 Posts
![]() Group Stage – October 8th - October 9th, 2022 Playoff Bracket – October 10th - October 12th, 2022 | ||
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LennX
4564 Posts
It's TI and everyone is resting /s I'm gonna laugh if T1 cant even make it out of the groups | ||
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VGhost
United States3616 Posts
On October 08 2022 16:12 LennX wrote: Ded Gmae It's TI and everyone is resting /s I'm gonna laugh if T1 cant even make it out of the groups Well they'll get LB at least. | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
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Yurie
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Yurie
12037 Posts
Current game Kuku is doing it from offlane. Guess they are doing 3 core with lower focus on the safe lane one. | ||
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LennX
4564 Posts
On October 09 2022 11:52 Yurie wrote: T1 is also interesting. Topson is playing pos 1 from mid in most games. Perhaps due to Ana having a low impact in the games I've watched. Could be how they want to play but especially the first series yesterday they didn't pick that way. Current game Kuku is doing it from offlane. Guess they are doing 3 core with lower focus on the safe lane one. Yea.. This playstyle is reminiscent of TI3 Alliance | ||
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
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Yurie
12037 Posts
Nouns is surprising me today. Playing much better than yesterday. | ||
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goody153
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LennX
4564 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
NaVi are looking good. Pulling out a Core IO was nothing I expected from them! | ||
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Yurie
12037 Posts
Edit, yay they did pick it, seems strong against naga. Edit 2, though not sure why they went offlane with it. | ||
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Yurie
12037 Posts
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Yurie
12037 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
On October 10 2022 14:26 Yurie wrote: The first series today seems to show that timing lineups don't work. Could be the teams are in the wrong sweet spot where the opponent is good enough to target your mistakes while you still make too many? I'm not sure... I had the same thinking, but looking at the games it is ... unconclusive Also I admit, quite a few heroes I can't completly put in a "timing" spot. SF goes quite late, as does TA I think. But more than Morph or a Terrorblade!? And what is "late"? 40min? 50? more? I know from past TIs that you see some things in the group stages you think is "busted" and "all" try to play it. But suddenly in Playoffs the game changes and it falls off! Maybe we will get something like that too! | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
Secret taking down the chinese giant XG and VP on the brink of winning against VG. EEU and WEU looking good so far. All of NA and SA can be eliminated today... | ||
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Yurie
12037 Posts
On October 10 2022 15:09 Geisterkarle wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2022 14:26 Yurie wrote: The first series today seems to show that timing lineups don't work. Could be the teams are in the wrong sweet spot where the opponent is good enough to target your mistakes while you still make too many? I'm not sure... I had the same thinking, but looking at the games it is ... unconclusive Also I admit, quite a few heroes I can't completly put in a "timing" spot. SF goes quite late, as does TA I think. But more than Morph or a Terrorblade!? And what is "late"? 40min? 50? more? I know from past TIs that you see some things in the group stages you think is "busted" and "all" try to play it. But suddenly in Playoffs the game changes and it falls off! Maybe we will get something like that too! OG going magical snapfire mid is the one that really stuck out to me. A lineup where you need to have a 10k lead at 25 min or you get outscaled. | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
On October 10 2022 18:23 Yurie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2022 15:09 Geisterkarle wrote: On October 10 2022 14:26 Yurie wrote: The first series today seems to show that timing lineups don't work. Could be the teams are in the wrong sweet spot where the opponent is good enough to target your mistakes while you still make too many? I'm not sure... I had the same thinking, but looking at the games it is ... unconclusive Also I admit, quite a few heroes I can't completly put in a "timing" spot. SF goes quite late, as does TA I think. But more than Morph or a Terrorblade!? And what is "late"? 40min? 50? more? I know from past TIs that you see some things in the group stages you think is "busted" and "all" try to play it. But suddenly in Playoffs the game changes and it falls off! Maybe we will get something like that too! OG going magical snapfire mid is the one that really stuck out to me. A lineup where you need to have a 10k lead at 25 min or you get outscaled. That is an "extreme" example. I actually think about that if I see a Pos 1 Lina! Maybe it is "just the game" that changed, that there isn't a clear "cut" between "mid game" and "late game" heroes anymore. Aside that: Tempest first out. And Xtreme... Infamous looking good; 1:0 in front and second map quite even/good for INF! Maybe the first bigger upset incoming? | ||
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
On October 10 2022 15:09 Geisterkarle wrote: Also I admit, quite a few heroes I can't completly put in a "timing" spot. SF goes quite late, as does TA I think. But more than Morph or a Terrorblade!? And what is "late"? 40min? 50? more? Guess it depends on how you are playing a hero...Magic SF is pretty strong till BKBs are coming up, then falls off and getting strong again once BKBs are on the low side and/or you have the tools with arcane blink and hex to prevent the BKB-usage. Same for Zeus with his percentage based damage...an absolute monster once BKBs are down. Would count Medusa, Void and classic Spectre as well to the ultra late game heroes which can 1vs5 with the right set-up... Early game till minutes 15, mid game 15-40 and everything beyond minute 40 is late game for me. | ||
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Yurie
12037 Posts
It is so nice that the series I want to see the most in the playoffs are the morning series. Can get up at 4 and watch them before work. I actually quite like the two parallel series as well. 4 is too much, 1 means a lot of dead time. | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
Even a few months ago I remember a team picked Templar Assassin as Pos 1. And it was quite a long game and even the casters were surprised, that TA is still an absolutely killer at 50+min! They thought it will drop off. And now... maybe we "think" that some heroes are "just for a timing" but go quite late too! But back to topic: Wildcard the only American team making it to tomorrow! ![]() Infamous were close! They were hitting their head too much against the wall (or highground) in game 2! | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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emperorchampion
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Yurie
12037 Posts
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
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Yurie
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
Oh, "out": Wildcard is now gone and so is America ![]() And I just noticed the "unusual" match-times. The lower-bracket have to play back-to-back games! Normally in those playoff-brackets this is only happening before the grand finale - which we don't have here. | ||
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
CN Doto on the ropes, both XG and VG are only one game away of being eliminated. Chinese Doto best Doto? No way...they may have the best team with LGD, but afterwards? Still possible that six teams from WEU will be at TI...talking about most competetive region. EDIT: T1 with the ultra mega throw against VG in Game 2. XG also forcing a game 3 against NaVi which is very intense so far. EDIT2: XG prevails like yesterday. Terrible Game 1, better game 2 and 3. Now going against Liquid. | ||
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Geisterkarle
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
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Archeon
3264 Posts
On October 10 2022 20:13 Rufus Dupres wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2022 15:09 Geisterkarle wrote: Also I admit, quite a few heroes I can't completly put in a "timing" spot. SF goes quite late, as does TA I think. But more than Morph or a Terrorblade!? And what is "late"? 40min? 50? more? Guess it depends on how you are playing a hero...Magic SF is pretty strong till BKBs are coming up, then falls off and getting strong again once BKBs are on the low side and/or you have the tools with arcane blink and hex to prevent the BKB-usage. Same for Zeus with his percentage based damage...an absolute monster once BKBs are down. Would count Medusa, Void and classic Spectre as well to the ultra late game heroes which can 1vs5 with the right set-up... Early game till minutes 15, mid game 15-40 and everything beyond minute 40 is late game for me. My experience with spec is that you have a timing around Manta+1 and past that only get weaker. Spec's main advantages over other carries is the ability to jump and kill a sup fairly reliably at the start of the fight and get vision. Killing a sup becomes increasingly difficult the longer the game goes though and while yes you can become very tanky due to dispersion break makes you very killable. Spec is still a strong core in the later stages, but I'd much rather have a 6-slotted AM than a 6-slotted Spec on average. | ||
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PoulsenB
Poland7730 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On October 12 2022 00:28 PoulsenB wrote: T1 is out, good. Sad for the sea players, but topson and ana should not expect to just force their way into TI without playing the DPC. yep, turns out there is a reason people play the whole season | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
hoping that both secret and liquid pull through tomorrow | ||
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Yurie
12037 Posts
The contrast between the two series for liquid was very large. | ||
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emperorchampion
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emperorchampion
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emperorchampion
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Yurie
12037 Posts
I think Pudge mid doesn't suit how Liquid plays normally. It isn't a strong hero from mid in the first place and it doesn't suit them. | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
On October 12 2022 13:53 emperorchampion wrote: nice they did it ![]() Yeah, Puppy keeping his "Ti-grandpa" status ![]() | ||
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Yurie
12037 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
Liquid had a really good laning stage and they had really good push! That jump from insania at the end was incredible! | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
Now sent bloody gpk into oblivion and WEU will be having six teams out of 20 at TI. | ||
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Merany
France890 Posts
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
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Merany
France890 Posts
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
What makes Matu happy? If VP is not banning Disruptor and/or picking it first, then they will lose game 2 as well(most likely). EDIT: Has VP not seen how Liquid crushed the VG-Morph with the Tusk/Disruptor duo? | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34501 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
now we have a few days of breathing time ![]() | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On October 12 2022 13:53 emperorchampion wrote: nice they did it ![]() | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
2 Days to go! Do we get a nice "offical" thread? ![]() | ||
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