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Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
June 02 2015 20:22 GMT
#21
On June 03 2015 04:39 Julmust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 04:04 Ingvar wrote:
"Ever since TI4 they have not been able to claim a single tournament win." False, they won Major All Stars. "They have, in general, not even been in the top 4." Probably also false, they were clear top4 of the world from March reshuffle until 6.84. While it is a short period of time, it is worth noting.

I understand that previews are mainly written based on impressions but small factual checks are what gives them quality.


When I looked at the tournaments I focused on tournaments considered premier on LP. Don't know why MAST wasn't in there though. Might have been the "low" prizepool.

Again when looking at premier tournaments these are their finishes in premier tournaments (since TI4)
i-league Season 3: 5-6th
The Summit 3: 5 - 6th
Star Ladder Star Series Season 12: 2nd
Dota 2 Asia Championships: 7 - 8th
i-League Season 2: 5-6th
World Cyber Arena 2014: 4 - 8th
i-league: 3 - 4th
The International 2014: 7 - 8th


Well, it's a funny coincidence jD MLG Season 1 and Dreamleague Season 3 are premier when MAS and Red Bull are not. Still, if we speak of premier tournaments in the sense of "all super top teams attending" than during this year their winners were a tight group of 4. Add to that Newbee's last win was in October and Secret's first in May and it narrows to only 2 teams in a year. It's probably not the best way to judge teams success.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 02 2015 20:23 GMT
#22
newbee are after all the worst Bo1 group stage team in history as far as I can tell XD
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
June 02 2015 20:37 GMT
#23
Sno_man navi fan confirmed
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 02 2015 20:40 GMT
#24
I just mean the TI4 champions got reamed in groups at TI4, and got reamed even worse at DAC to the point of not making it out
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
June 02 2015 21:01 GMT
#25
On June 03 2015 05:22 Ingvar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 04:39 Julmust wrote:
On June 03 2015 04:04 Ingvar wrote:
"Ever since TI4 they have not been able to claim a single tournament win." False, they won Major All Stars. "They have, in general, not even been in the top 4." Probably also false, they were clear top4 of the world from March reshuffle until 6.84. While it is a short period of time, it is worth noting.

I understand that previews are mainly written based on impressions but small factual checks are what gives them quality.


When I looked at the tournaments I focused on tournaments considered premier on LP. Don't know why MAST wasn't in there though. Might have been the "low" prizepool.

Again when looking at premier tournaments these are their finishes in premier tournaments (since TI4)
i-league Season 3: 5-6th
The Summit 3: 5 - 6th
Star Ladder Star Series Season 12: 2nd
Dota 2 Asia Championships: 7 - 8th
i-League Season 2: 5-6th
World Cyber Arena 2014: 4 - 8th
i-league: 3 - 4th
The International 2014: 7 - 8th


Well, it's a funny coincidence jD MLG Season 1 and Dreamleague Season 3 are premier when MAS and Red Bull are not. Still, if we speak of premier tournaments in the sense of "all super top teams attending" than during this year their winners were a tight group of 4. Add to that Newbee's last win was in October and Secret's first in May and it narrows to only 2 teams in a year. It's probably not the best way to judge teams success.

So if we move away from the stats, would you say IG has had a great year? I wouldn't even call it a good year seen to their lineup
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ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
June 02 2015 21:09 GMT
#26
On June 03 2015 06:01 Julmust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 05:22 Ingvar wrote:
On June 03 2015 04:39 Julmust wrote:
On June 03 2015 04:04 Ingvar wrote:
"Ever since TI4 they have not been able to claim a single tournament win." False, they won Major All Stars. "They have, in general, not even been in the top 4." Probably also false, they were clear top4 of the world from March reshuffle until 6.84. While it is a short period of time, it is worth noting.

I understand that previews are mainly written based on impressions but small factual checks are what gives them quality.


When I looked at the tournaments I focused on tournaments considered premier on LP. Don't know why MAST wasn't in there though. Might have been the "low" prizepool.

Again when looking at premier tournaments these are their finishes in premier tournaments (since TI4)
i-league Season 3: 5-6th
The Summit 3: 5 - 6th
Star Ladder Star Series Season 12: 2nd
Dota 2 Asia Championships: 7 - 8th
i-League Season 2: 5-6th
World Cyber Arena 2014: 4 - 8th
i-league: 3 - 4th
The International 2014: 7 - 8th


Well, it's a funny coincidence jD MLG Season 1 and Dreamleague Season 3 are premier when MAS and Red Bull are not. Still, if we speak of premier tournaments in the sense of "all super top teams attending" than during this year their winners were a tight group of 4. Add to that Newbee's last win was in October and Secret's first in May and it narrows to only 2 teams in a year. It's probably not the best way to judge teams success.

So if we move away from the stats, would you say IG has had a great year? I wouldn't even call it a good year seen to their lineup


IG has been performing kinda meh after the honeymoon period of B-God joining them was over.
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
June 02 2015 23:19 GMT
#27
stacked af event. Empire has actually been 1-2 at all every LAN they've attended as this squad so I'm hoping my boys cause some bugattis to be lost
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
June 02 2015 23:37 GMT
#28
On June 03 2015 06:01 Julmust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 05:22 Ingvar wrote:
On June 03 2015 04:39 Julmust wrote:
On June 03 2015 04:04 Ingvar wrote:
"Ever since TI4 they have not been able to claim a single tournament win." False, they won Major All Stars. "They have, in general, not even been in the top 4." Probably also false, they were clear top4 of the world from March reshuffle until 6.84. While it is a short period of time, it is worth noting.

I understand that previews are mainly written based on impressions but small factual checks are what gives them quality.


When I looked at the tournaments I focused on tournaments considered premier on LP. Don't know why MAST wasn't in there though. Might have been the "low" prizepool.

Again when looking at premier tournaments these are their finishes in premier tournaments (since TI4)
i-league Season 3: 5-6th
The Summit 3: 5 - 6th
Star Ladder Star Series Season 12: 2nd
Dota 2 Asia Championships: 7 - 8th
i-League Season 2: 5-6th
World Cyber Arena 2014: 4 - 8th
i-league: 3 - 4th
The International 2014: 7 - 8th


Well, it's a funny coincidence jD MLG Season 1 and Dreamleague Season 3 are premier when MAS and Red Bull are not. Still, if we speak of premier tournaments in the sense of "all super top teams attending" than during this year their winners were a tight group of 4. Add to that Newbee's last win was in October and Secret's first in May and it narrows to only 2 teams in a year. It's probably not the best way to judge teams success.

So if we move away from the stats, would you say IG has had a great year? I wouldn't even call it a good year seen to their lineup

No. They had pretty average year. What I wanted to say - they definitely won MAS so they're not C9 and that I get wrong vibes from their description: they're consitently top3 in China after reshuffle meaning they are a contender in any tournament they enter. Everything else is unnecessary additions to that thought.
MMA | Life | Classic | Happy | Team Empire | Team Spirit
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
June 03 2015 01:31 GMT
#29
Chinese tournaments with a lot of chinese teams scare me too much ):

lets do it c9
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theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
June 03 2015 01:56 GMT
#30
Good god these groups are stacked. This has so much potential
gaijindash
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan376 Posts
June 03 2015 03:03 GMT
#31
Well at least the playlist is smooth while we wait around forever for the teams to rock up for their games
Courage does not always roar, sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says 'I will try again tommorow'
_TooEasy
Profile Joined June 2015
Brazil3 Posts
June 03 2015 05:53 GMT
#32
EHOME Gyro Ultra Kill Vs. Empire MarsTV League


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Beyond Magic
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland130 Posts
June 03 2015 08:53 GMT
#33
I wonder why EG wasn't invited or were they?
gg
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 03 2015 09:12 GMT
#34
On June 03 2015 17:53 Beyond Magic wrote:
I wonder why EG wasn't invited or were they?

they probably refused
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27152 Posts
June 03 2015 14:17 GMT
#35
Looking forward to this as a TI warmup. Bought the ticket so I can ninja the games at work.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
June 03 2015 15:04 GMT
#36
Grammar fix:

Under VG section it says: "A question we should start start asking ourselves is..."

Should only be one start
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 15:34:51
June 03 2015 15:09 GMT
#37
On June 04 2015 00:04 Titusmaster6 wrote:
Grammar fix:

Under VG section it says: "A question we should start start asking ourselves is..."

Should only be one start


Maybe the writer has low expectations of finishing the question.

And yeah EG.Peter"toogoodforChina"Dager has no time for tournaments in China with under $1mil prize pool

edit: actually isn't it just because EG chose to take free money at MLG (Secret dodgers hehe) instead?
RandyL
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia148 Posts
June 04 2015 08:52 GMT
#38
EU qualifiers hardest? Have you forgotten about CN?

CDEC, the CN runners up can probably go 50-50 with Navi, the EU winners, and they just beat Navi, obviously though, Navi was missing one and had a standin.
BurNIng your soul.
iamrizky
Profile Joined May 2015
Philippines10 Posts
June 05 2015 07:53 GMT
#39
that last sentence in the c9 description LMAO
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 07 2015 10:49 GMT
#40
On June 03 2015 17:53 Beyond Magic wrote:
I wonder why EG wasn't invited or were they?


If memory serves ppd said that they were invited but turned up fowl. That invite went to c9, again according to my own fuzzy recollection of what ppd said.
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