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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-23 19:17:50
January 23 2018 19:17 GMT
#185401
On January 24 2018 04:14 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 03:25 cecek wrote:
Just got into the Magic ARENA beta. Installing right now, pretty hype about this!

Keep us posted about the pricing model and such, if they've reported it!

They have

its just hearthstone but with a more restrictive dusting system (can't dust cards until you own a full set of 4 of them)

slightly more involved with stuff like "wildcards" which you can spend to get any card of a given rarity but it's not different from just "x dust"

Also arena has a REAL strict NDA from what I've heard, although it could be loosening as more people get in now and as WOTC makes more real announcements
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-23 19:23:41
January 23 2018 19:23 GMT
#185402
If it's free to at least try out, I wouldn't object to playing around in it.

I get the feeling you'll have to buy something to play it though, like a starter deck or whatever just to get into an expansion, as I suspect it'll be standard - meaning cards rotate out of legality every year (or whatever). I'm sure it'll be physically unplayable without paying irlmoney, but that's sort of what I expect of anything related to MTG anyway.
kiss kiss fall in love
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12182 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-23 19:26:35
January 23 2018 19:24 GMT
#185403
Checked out facebook video and seems fine based on the ESL VODs as long as you full screen (on second screen). Tournament on totally wrong time zone for me.

Though I didn't really have any problems with Hitbox, own3d or any of the other services either.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2851 Posts
January 23 2018 20:05 GMT
#185404
Facebook is just a garbage-tier social outlet for me. I've got whatsapp or other methods to actually interact with my family/friends, without having to slog through clickbait bullshit ads or "friends" that are being mad about stupid shit on the internet.

I prefer to restrict my social media to people I actually give a fuck about. Facebook strongly discourages that.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-23 20:45:06
January 23 2018 20:43 GMT
#185405
On January 24 2018 05:05 Fleetfeet wrote:
Facebook is just a garbage-tier social outlet for me. I've got whatsapp or other methods to actually interact with my family/friends, without having to slog through clickbait bullshit ads or "friends" that are being mad about stupid shit on the internet.

I prefer to restrict my social media to people I actually give a fuck about. Facebook strongly discourages that.

agreed on all accounts, but I have no real issue with watching a stream of video that I want to watch such as a dota tournament, even if it's served by facebook. However, it has to be on a reasonable webpage (not facebook but apparently ESL embeds the streams which could work) and it has to actually, you know, work...

plus i aint watching nahaz rofl. There were posts on reddit like "shame this is on facebook cuz production value is so high" meanwhile i'm like "you couldn't pay me to watch nahaz"
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
January 23 2018 21:03 GMT
#185406
Free beer as long as you watch?
passive quaranstream fan
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12182 Posts
January 23 2018 21:06 GMT
#185407
On January 24 2018 05:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 05:05 Fleetfeet wrote:
Facebook is just a garbage-tier social outlet for me. I've got whatsapp or other methods to actually interact with my family/friends, without having to slog through clickbait bullshit ads or "friends" that are being mad about stupid shit on the internet.

I prefer to restrict my social media to people I actually give a fuck about. Facebook strongly discourages that.

agreed on all accounts, but I have no real issue with watching a stream of video that I want to watch such as a dota tournament, even if it's served by facebook. However, it has to be on a reasonable webpage (not facebook but apparently ESL embeds the streams which could work) and it has to actually, you know, work...

plus i aint watching nahaz rofl. There were posts on reddit like "shame this is on facebook cuz production value is so high" meanwhile i'm like "you couldn't pay me to watch nahaz"


I personally don't have anything against Nahaz. He isn't always the best person on a panel but I would rate him above average for panel talents. Not great as host or caster though.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 23 2018 21:09 GMT
#185408
You can just watch here: http://live.esl-one.com/ The stream is embeded, you won't even notice it's coming from facebook...
super gg
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-23 21:20:25
January 23 2018 21:20 GMT
#185409


lol (esl VP)
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
January 23 2018 21:36 GMT
#185410
the best part about that tweet is that I was able to find a ton of pretty good plays on the front page all through the first day. I'll probably just keep watching the tournament in-game. Some really good games have already been played
LiquidDota Staff
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 23 2018 21:43 GMT
#185411
On January 24 2018 06:36 OmniEulogy wrote:
the best part about that tweet is that I was able to find a ton of pretty good plays on the front page all through the first day. I'll probably just keep watching the tournament in-game. Some really good games have already been played

And where did those plays come from?

Restreams, since you there are no facebook vods.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
January 23 2018 21:48 GMT
#185412
Could they not clip it as it happened on facebook? I just assumed it came from there but if not it makes his tweet being angry about it even better lmao
LiquidDota Staff
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-23 21:51:29
January 23 2018 21:50 GMT
#185413
On January 24 2018 06:48 OmniEulogy wrote:
Could they not clip it as it happened on facebook? I just assumed it came from there but if not it makes his tweet being angry about it even better lmao

Technically you probally could, like people used to do a long time ago, with your own software. But I'm pretty sure everything that would end up in reddit is just Twitch clips. Much easier to do.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 23 2018 21:51 GMT
#185414
There are like 15 different ways they could get clips of the stream that don’t even require them to use facebook or any service at all.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-23 22:23:02
January 23 2018 22:22 GMT
#185415
I may just watch one of the japanese streamers on twitch. I'm still not fully fluent, but it's good practice and I think I'll get more out of it than hearing nahaz tell me that Lycan always wins a game. Plus no facebook
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 23 2018 22:31 GMT
#185416
On January 24 2018 05:05 Fleetfeet wrote:
Facebook is just a garbage-tier social outlet for me. I've got whatsapp or other methods to actually interact with my family/friends, without having to slog through clickbait bullshit ads or "friends" that are being mad about stupid shit on the internet.

I prefer to restrict my social media to people I actually give a fuck about. Facebook strongly discourages that.

you can do that
create a list of friends and you can restrict posts and pics and whatever to only people on that list by default
you can also only appear online on messenger to those people

it's buried but it's definitely a feature

i haven't used facebook over the last several years because i didn't like the way i was always checking on peoples' statuses and comments 24/7
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 23 2018 22:44 GMT
#185417
I’m not sure that is a feature any more, or if it is effective. Facebook took away control of your feed a while ago and now markets users to be served ads and weird shit. I doubt there is any way to regain control at this point.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 23 2018 22:44 GMT
#185418
also how come ld doesn't support https muh security
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 23 2018 22:51 GMT
#185419
On January 24 2018 07:44 andyrau wrote:
also how come ld doesn't support https muh security

brb hacking ur account to steal ur liquiddota gold
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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
January 23 2018 22:54 GMT
#185420
On January 24 2018 07:44 andyrau wrote:
also how come ld doesn't support https muh security

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