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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 22:47:58
November 27 2014 22:47 GMT
#41
Yes, but those taxes are not used to cover health care costs for their increased risk of injury. You argue like an American.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
November 27 2014 22:50 GMT
#42
those taxes are used to maintain the roads which reduces the risk of injury
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 27 2014 22:50 GMT
#43
On November 28 2014 07:47 dismiss wrote:
Yes, but those taxes are not used to cover health care costs for their increased risk of injury. You argue like an American.

I don't have any evidence either way but I'd assume that some amount of the fuel tax etc goes to road maintenance and improvement, and some goes to other parts of the government which could easily include healthcare and emergency services.

I'd also expect this to vary from nation to nation.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
November 27 2014 22:53 GMT
#44
On November 28 2014 07:50 ahswtini wrote:
those taxes are used to maintain the roads which reduces the risk of injury

Doesn't change anything, it's still an increased risk compared to not driving a car/using public transport.
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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 22:59:33
November 27 2014 22:54 GMT
#45
On November 28 2014 07:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
At least smokers more or less pay for their own health care.

that is very much not the case with obese people, unfortunately, as taxing food has a very bad image since it "impacts poor people who can't afford to feed their kids" or something.

That depends on the healthcare.
I'm pretty certain it doesn't in most cases.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 27 2014 22:57 GMT
#46
On November 28 2014 07:54 Nixer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 07:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
At least smokers more or less pay for their own health care.

that is very much not the case with obese people, unfortunately, as taxing food has a very bad image since it "impacts poor people who can't afford to feed their kids" or something.

That depends on the healthcare.

Is tobacco not highly taxed in your country?
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
November 27 2014 22:58 GMT
#47
Snomans argument is a stupid fallacy anyway, it was just meant to give an example of a kind of behaviour that puts people at an increased risk of needing healthcare services and doesn't punish them by levying extra taxes to pay for it. There are plenty other such examples.
Apart from that, you'd have to find an objective way of determining when someone is healthy/what caused it. This is of cours ealready discarding all the advantages of publicly founded healthcare.
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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 23:11:29
November 27 2014 23:02 GMT
#48
On November 28 2014 07:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 07:54 Nixer wrote:
On November 28 2014 07:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
At least smokers more or less pay for their own health care.

that is very much not the case with obese people, unfortunately, as taxing food has a very bad image since it "impacts poor people who can't afford to feed their kids" or something.

That depends on the healthcare.

Is tobacco not highly taxed in your country?

It is, but the total calculated loss is typically double or more than the tax revenues gained. It depends on how it's calculated I suppose but from what I can gather it's quite believable that it's at least above.

EDIT: Typically these numbers seem to be pulled out of the hat and bullshit though, so you'd have to keep that in mind. There's a bunch to take into consideration.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 28 2014 00:09 GMT
#49
Fuck were eating pies now
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
November 28 2014 00:27 GMT
#50
Is this supposed to be the new GD?
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 28 2014 00:35 GMT
#51
On November 28 2014 06:17 Buckyman wrote:
Song currently stuck in my head: "Everything is Awesome" with altered lyrics.

"Everyone's a moron,
Everyone's a ghoul when they're o-on your team..."

If you've ever had a gf sing that song at you 100+ times you wouldn't think of alternatives. Does one eyed jack refer to a fairy tale?
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 28 2014 01:41 GMT
#52
i hate fat people
this is why i go to the gym 5days a week and swim
IM A GREEK GOD NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 28 2014 02:04 GMT
#53
On November 28 2014 06:46 dismiss wrote:
Define bad?

Shouldn't the English know it better than me?
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
November 28 2014 02:08 GMT
#54
On November 28 2014 11:04 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 06:46 dismiss wrote:
Define bad?

Shouldn't the English know it better than me?

It varies depending on what you deem an desirable outcome. n_n
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 28 2014 02:48 GMT
#55
On November 28 2014 11:08 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 11:04 Nevuk wrote:
On November 28 2014 06:46 dismiss wrote:
Define bad?

Shouldn't the English know it better than me?

It varies depending on what you deem an desirable outcome. n_n

an desirable?
I think there's something wrong with the way this was written. I'm also hammered.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 03:22:46
November 28 2014 03:22 GMT
#56
is this what we get for the dbzx ban?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 28 2014 04:25 GMT
#57
I don't think we are on some sort of weird barter system here. The thread is GD, back by popular demand.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 28 2014 05:05 GMT
#58
shh don't tell anyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
November 28 2014 05:45 GMT
#59
So we got nothing for nothing.

Seems fair.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2618 Posts
November 28 2014 05:59 GMT
#60
Wait LeLoup -actually- got his name changed now? That's slightly more and less confusing at the same time.
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